An assault rifle is a fully automatic rifle with a selector switch. A semi-automatic rifle such as the AR-15 is just a normal rifle.
The militia of the United States consists of all able bodied men ages 17-45. the law specifically spells this out and by saying the 2nd Amendment only applies to the militia you are saying that all able bodied males ages 17-to 45 have the right to bear arms source:law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/311
Saying "why do you need an assault rifle" is like saying "why do you need freedom of speech"
Murder was still illegal when mass shooting happened. Making a new law to make more things illegal when the criminal don't obey the law only punishes the Law Abiding citizens
There is a difference between a "clip" and a "magazine"
Isaac Gonzalez
I disagree with you, but I support your right to say your opinion
Camden Moore
disagree with what?
educating people?
Asher Johnson
no wonder the liberal side is so uninformed.
Joseph James
My thoughts
Bentley Murphy
shut up! fucking sjw supporting stuff. I don't like sjw, I'm cool now guys, right?
Jackson Murphy
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Matthew Campbell
please tell me how you are going to conduct house to house searches with a drone
Evan Cook
>This is a board >This is also a board >this is also just a board "Diving" is an action, not an object.
See how stupid that sounds?
Ayden Collins
still a faggot kiddo
Grayson Garcia
the reason why this argument doesnt hold up is every conflict america has been apart of since the korean war
Colton Parker
it occurred to me this morning that the pro life / pro choice movement is very similar to the gun control talks. mostly of interest was the argument of incrementalism that is being torn up by the supreme court. also, moral life decisions in the hands of the "other"
Logan Sullivan
Doesn't know or understand how war works.
Sebastian Gomez
>Saying "why do you need an assault rifle" is like saying "why do you need freedom of speech"
Disagree with crap like that. But to each his own
You're talking to a conservative, and a Trump supporter at that
Landon Anderson
/k/ already knows about this stuff. they are already educated about it.
Anthony Collins
someone doesn't know their history
the soviets refused to fight in their military during their civil war, what's stopping troops from firing upon the people they're supposed to protect?
Leo Parker
they have smaller drones bro
Matthew Gutierrez
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Julian Torres
>disagreeing with facts as though they were opinions >not knowing the difference classic liberal
Andrew Martin
I lost my pastor in the Orlando shootings and even I know that Radical Islam is to blame now not rifles that have been here for decades
Zachary Cooper
The problem in America isn't guns. Other countries have similar gun culture and don't shoot each other. The problem is Americans. Until they learn to play nice with each other they should have their toys taken away.
Easton Morgan
okay
Jackson Cox
so you disagree with freedom of speech but not the other amendments in the bill of rights?
Landon Mitchell
Nice straw man faggot. Try not to make that big of a stretch next time
Zachary Fisher
124 million drones?
because that's how man households are in the U.S.
Anthony Gomez
> bolt action 1 shot > lever action 1 shot > burst fire 3 shots
One of these things isn't like the others.
Though it is stupid that the word assault is used for scaremongering, it is an assault weapon.
Assault just means capable of suppressing fire.
Assault weapons murder about as effectively as a submachine gun (protip: not very)
Owen Bennett
An assault rifle is any gun with an elongated barrel that can accept a detachable high capacity magazine.
Nathan Nguyen
well, they don't have to anymore. resistance will be met with horrifying force. everyone here who thought it was a big fucking joke in Ferguson was not looking at the big picture. Boston rolled out a rifle battalion with armored support. tiny PDs have switched from shotguns in the car to AR-15s.
by all means, keep your weapons. but make no mistake, you are now and forever in the land of LARP / cosplay if you think you can stand up to power here.
Chase Carter
And adding the word "assault" to everything that scares you doesn't sound stupid?
Hunter Turner
(you)
Joshua Myers
This is why the rest of the western world thinks Americans are retarded.
Nathaniel Smith
my program of hand jobs for dangerous loners has yet to pass congress, but maybe next year...
Jackson Rodriguez
Wrong. An assault rifle is a rifle that has selective fire between semiautomatic and fully automatic or burst fire. the magazine type or size has nothing to do with it.
Jeremiah Nguyen
Nah we like our toys. In any case...
You can't bitch about Americans. We are you. Every nutjob, religious extremist, criminal, entrepreneur, rebel, and doublefaggot ran to the states. We took everyone running to or from something that you couldn't handle, and now you wonder why the baby with a bazooka does crazy shit sometimes? Get real. Pic related.
I'll take my do damn near whatever I want and "danger" over eurofaggotry any day.
Jayden Bell
So let's say that this meme is true. Let's say the government does actually become tyrannical in a way that negatively impacts you heavily. Are you telling us that in this situation you would rather roll over and say "well okay" than die fighting for something you truly believe in?
Alexander Anderson
ohh we are. you just don't know how ignorant, fearful and well armed we are.
Brandon Kelly
The ability to change magazines quickly is what is needed to conduct a military style assault, the action of the gun has no bearing on it. No other feature matters. In the rights hands, a bolt action can fire just as quickly as a semi-automatic assault rifle.
Christian Martin
False, the civilian AR styled rifle is capable of semi automatic firing, not burst. As a matter of fact the only weapon used by the US military that supports a burst fire are 2 SMG weapons being the MP7 and MP5. Assault means a fully automatic function not just suppressing fire.
Noah Reyes
I'm not gonna say that guns in all situations are good, nor that guns in all situations are bad.
However i believe that if you really need something you'll go through what you need to to get it.
I am completely for people having the rights to bear arms, however they shoudn't be easy to access as they are a dangerous weapon.
People are right when they say guns don't kill people, people kill people.
Another thing you should know is that if you make it easy for someone to do something, they're more likely to do it.
Stricter gun control, meaning making it harder to obtain guns will make it so that any mass murderers that wishes to use guns will be easy to track, and will have a harder time obtaining his desired weapon.
Look at Canada, everyone believes they don't have guns and it's illegal to. They're wrong, they have just as many guns. The only difference is that it's harder to get a personal gun in Canada, not only that but you need a license, that way they can make sure that you won't murder large amounts of people. Sure there are exceptions, but they're far less common than in the U.S.
TL;DR: Guns should be harder to get, but not impossible.
Lincoln Scott
HAHAHAH
has not shot a gun before. show me a picture of your gun with a timestamp and I might consider what you have to say. any shooter laughs and the bullshit your just spewed.
Isaiah Wilson
>implying AR-15 has burst fire Sure, dude
Matthew Diaz
You are the biggest idiot in the known universe. Learn a little about combat weapons before you speak.
James Foster
he's giving you the textbook definition of assault rifle, select fire, intermediate power, fuck i can't remember the third thing.
Parker Perez
can you get fully automatic rifles in the US?
Wyatt Miller
>burst fire 3 shots >AR-15 for citizens >Mfw
Isaiah Jackson
Still, the point is using the term assault for scaremongering is bullshit.
Austin Rogers
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Adrian Reed
Are you fucking mental?
AR-15s are NOT capable of 3-round burst, off the shelf. It is with some serious modification...
However, the M16 is capable of that (or full auto depending on which M16). The M16 also happens to be the modified version that the US military adopted.
Also, as the law is written, an "assault" weapon is a weapon that has 2-3 or more pieces of furniture. Such as a pistol grip, adjustable but stock, or even a vertical grip. Simply because it makes more "deadlier" or "shootier". How though?
Further proving there is no such thing as an assault weapon.
Cameron Johnson
This is just a rifle
Blake Mitchell
You are terribly wrong, to conduct a military assault takes a squad with weaponry that can fire in either a full auto function or semi auto, the ability to change magazines quickly is just skill Source: I was in the military
Blake Wood
They don't need to do them all at once are you autistic?
James Cruz
My M16A2 had burst fire on it when I was in the military. I think you need to double check you info there.
David Ward
Here are two assault rifles, tell me which one is an assault rifle by your definition and therefore should be available for purchase for civilian use
Charles Butler
He literally said he agrees with your right to support your opinion. could you at least try to communicate like a civilized human
Aiden Roberts
can you get a fully automatic weapon in the US?
Alexander Barnes
Yes. You just have to go through the back ground checks and pay the $200 tax stamp, but they are very expensive.
Alexander Miller
I know what it is, and yes it is bullshit spewed by the media and its fucking stupid. I am just trying to inform what it means though
Oliver Reed
Not that user, but yes. It's difficult as fuck though.
Bentley Cook
That is patently, reliably false. There is no "right hands" that can make bolt action as fas as a semi-auto, its just not possible. Even with training, getting one accurate shot every second with a bolt action is damn near impossible. With a semi-auto, its not only doable, its a low estimate. Semi-auto's can be expected to put two or three reasonably accurate rounds downrange a second, but even if you are taking your time, there is no way you wont beat a bolt action.
Bentley Watson
So the entire military is going to man half of them in 12 hour shifts?
Who will come and arrest people for the violations they find?
Men in tanks and planes have to go home sometime and when your home is the battlefield it makes it a lot harder to hide.
Brody Cruz
>don't speak to me or my son ever again
Aiden Collins
When were you in? I used the M16A4
Anthony Kelly
what are some of those? the only ones I see are for military only
Jason Brown
kek
Jaxson Flores
good point, but with the advancement of 3d printing, the proliferation of weapons for the disastrous war on drugs and the fact that you can buy all but the lower receiver on line means that the only thing gun control might do is to turn normally law abiding gun nuts into criminals.
Jackson Edwards
So far as I can tell neither of those are assault rifles as I can not see the selector switch. please post the reverse side and I could tell you.
Liam Johnson
>has not shot a gun before. show me a picture of your gun with a timestamp
confirmed.
Brandon Rivera
Yes. But it has to be manufactured before 1968 if I'm not mistaken.
They are rather expensive. Spare parts are rather slim, so they are often times are decorative pieces. People do fire them, just not as often as you think.
They are also heavily regulated.
Ryder Green
Yes you can, it requires a Class 3 license.
Henry Robinson
i can't see the selector switch on these pics, its on the other side of the weapon above the trigger guard.
Lincoln Cruz
Okay, but can you use gun oil as lubricant to jerk off?
Oliver Adams
That is my point, no one can tell
Can you attest that military trains in almost all conditions for semi-automatic fire? And that burst and full automatic have few applications on the battlefield (for instance, providing cover) and do not generate the kills that semiautomatic fire do?
If semiautomatic is primarily used in both military and civilian use, there is no need to quibble about the definition.
Josiah Thomas
You would have to or them special through an FFL dealer. You can get an M4 or M16 if you can afford it and pass the back ground check.
Zachary Johnson
Saying "why do you need an assault rifle" is like saying "why do you need freedom of speech"
is what he linked and he said
>Disagree with crap like that. But to each his own
what I asked is >so you disagree with freedom of speech but not the other amendments in the bill of rights?
the way he stated it is that he disagreed with the amendments stated and I asked a question to clarify his statement.
Eli Robinson
We don't all get the new stuff.
Robert Sanders
stop being a little cunt you cant beat the military they have superior firepower and training. You're little militia of fat middle aged whit guys will crumple
Anthony Clark
no, don't do that, my buddy used CLP to jerk off once, said it caused a burning sensation.
Leo Powell
the bigger black one is clearly more dangerous. It's black and it would shoot bigger bullets from the larger military style extended high capacity magazine clip.
Austin Carter
>no one can tell >deliberately picks photos that dont show the one fucking thing we need to be able to tell Please fuck off.
Jonathan Roberts
The bigger one. It has a .30 magazine clip, capable of shooting 30 rounds in half a second.
Is that a ghost gun?
Jordan Peterson
ar 15?
Jayden Hughes
See:
Anthony Myers
It's not an assault rifle though. It's just a rifle. An assault rifle is a specific term that denotes a rifle with automatic fire and a fire rate selector. If it's semi-auto only or less, it's not an assault rifle. If it's full-auto only, it's a machine gun.
Nathan Powell
>implying soldiers don't have civilian families and loved ones >implying that shit was a panacea to guerilla warfare in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc >implying soldiers won't splinter off to side with civilians and take military gear with them >implying chemistry doesn't exist >implying supply chains locally and globally wouldn't be nearly stopped with reduced work force happening >implying real life is like your little video games >being this weak and unintelligent
Wew lad!
Gavin Williams
The us citizens could easily beat the military in all out war.
Faggots like you also forget the type of people who make up the military would also be some of the first people to join a constitution based revolution.
If there was a popular revolution in America that was based on the constitution there would be mass defection in the military. Much of it would be high command as well, not just low ranking grunts.
Cooper Edwards
no, at least three people on a sub par Sup Forums thread can tell you if you flip the pic. so, no you need to provide all info before we can make the decision. its like you asking us how many pennies you have in your pocket and then mocking our incorrect guess.
Jordan Morris
You are an idiot, your point is that you are an enormous pussy and those weapons look scary too you, therefor they must be more dangerous or deadly. The military trains to use both single and burst fire modes. Primarily we train to use single fire to teach ammo conservation and accuracy.
Liam Moore
You missed the point completely. It's not about the fact that the military would win in a "fight", its the fact that our military wouldnt be able to withstand a population's worth of resistance for any extended period of time.
Ryder Cook
the file name used to read AR 15 so this does not count
Robert Reyes
The M16 is not the AR-15. An AR-15 is a civilian weapon capable of semi-automatic fire only. The M16A2/A4 is a military weapon capable of burst-fire.
AR-15s ARE NOT M-16s!
Thomas Hughes
>Modern day loyalist detected
Nathaniel Jenkins
>That is my point, no one can tell
So what you are saying there is no way anyone can tell the difference if they held the rifle.
let me explain what a selector switch is
In the picture, This is the side of the gun. this is a fully automatic M-16 that the military uses. the Ar-15 does not have the "Auto" function. Even though the outside of the rifles look similar the insides are different. It's like the difference between the v6 and v8 mustang. Both are much different in power but look the same on the outside.
Oh yeah, thats the one that can shoot straight through concrete! The ones with the green tips the military uses.
William Torres
I don't agree with that because after hurricane Katrina the military took the people's guns and there was no "mass defection" they all followed orders like good boys
Nathan Sanders
Defining an assault rifle as a gun with an elongated barrel that can accept a detachable high capacity magazine is better than defining it as any rifle with a selector switch because it distinguishes an assault rifle from your father’s hunting rifle. You can take away a gun’s folding stock, pistol grip, bayonet mount, flash suppressor, select fire mode, and use a nice wood finish, and it is still an assault rifle if it can accept a high capacity magazine. If it doesn’t have the ability to accept a detachable magazine, then you can keep the folding stock, pistol grip, bayonet mount, flash suppressor, and it is still your dad’s hunting rifle.
You can even keep select fire mode.
You don’t need anything else but a high capacity magazine to conduct an assault. The military does it every day. Select fire is irrelevant.
Jonathan Campbell
Read the post I was responding to before commenting. All you succeeded in doing is making yourself look like an idiot.