post the least punk thing a punk musician has ever done
Post the least punk thing a punk musician has ever done
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NO TRUMP
NO KKK
NO FASCIST USA
Joan Jett is not punk
No good songs other than "I remember".
Yeah I was just gonna say, OP isn't even the least punk thing Lydon's ever done.
You do realise that he used the proceeds from this commercial to fund another PiL album.
But on second thought, that's not very punk either.
Billy Idol in general really
get on my level
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Punk as f***!
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this one makes me sick and i don't even like trump
he also admitted to spending $10k on shitty free-to-play iPad games a few years back
being a cynical punk doesn't make you any less impulsive
billy idol was always just riding the punk wave on his quest to become a popstar anyway
kathleen hanna was always dumb as fuck and had a high-schooler's level of political awarneess
tobi vail was the only cool member of bikini kill
This was honestly heartbreaking to watch, like how can you be so fucking happy about a neoliberal babykiller that you've gotta make a shit song out of it, and at the same time pretend that it's a fucking positive thing?
i love henry rollins
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We have people like this to thank for our fascist president.
i think she's just a fucking simpleton honestly, looking back she never really had anything insightful to say, but it's still really sad to see her so shamelessly prostitute herself like this
i largely don't like trump but calling him a fascist puts you on the same level as that video, cut it out
>billy idol
>punk
the comments and ratings got disabled after a shitload of le tigre/bikini kill fans shat all over the band for making that song and supporting clinton
nah generation x was a punk band, not a very good one, but he definitely started punk which makes what he went on to do that much more embarrassing
living your life how the fuck you want to is the most punk thing you could do though
That Clinton endorsement of Le Tigre obviously
Green Day's affiliation with a fucking musical
Misfits in general: they're just the KISS of punkrock. KISS sucks.
MOST OF ALL: Dead Kennedys ditching Jello Biafra over that fucking Levis commercial shit lmao
biafra is an absolute madman, i'll forgive him for that
John Lydon doing a TV advert for butter
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He also appeared on a reality TV show with a bunch of other D-list celebs, being humiliated in a jungle
it's not Jello being the sellout. Im talking about the remaining members of DK. fucking assholes. They're still touring too, lol.
this is honestly the worst song i've ever heard in my life
nicki minaj's stupid hoe is even worse musically, don't fool yourself
>midlessly hating on nicki
she's more talented than a lot of people Sup Forums likes to circlejerk over
there's more to a song than just the music
this one is soul crushing if you were a fan of their music before
Nicki has BAD music. However, she has spitting skills. I'll give her that.
agreed
still better than this el tigre shit though
lol, what does this have to do with anything, it's like you just exploded in white rage over something completely unrelated
she is very talented no question, she's usually great on features, but her own music is mostly terrible in spite of all that
yah, she probably could have had a low key career as a mid level rapper if she wanted to
why is it so hard for all these OG 70s punks to age with some dignity?
i was watching some recent interviews with the damned a while ago and i found myself legit surprised that those guys have managed to remain as smart, authentic and sensible(heh) as they were way back in the day while damn-near every other one of their contemporaries have turned into drugged-out or sold-out jokes. it shouldn't be that way.
how did so many of these people who were all about doing away with the cliches of rockstardom end up fulfilling every single one of those cliches?
also, the damned were the best of the original UK punk bands
because a lot of them actually had very little in common with the culture their music spawned in practice
the sex pistols were just an edgy boy band, the ramones were just an inept and aggressive but otherwise completely standard rock band etc
That sounds punk as fuck to me tho
Nah, watch the whole thing, Rotten stays his punk self throughout. Even Judy herself mentions that while he's kinda loudmouthed and outspoken, he's still sensible and honest. Like it doesn't get more punk than that.
I was pretty mad with everyone's reaction to when this first came out, too. Motherfuckers act like they know Johnny and that he's being hypocritical, but he's not for fuck's sake he's not Sid Vicious. Lydon has forever been a critic of the worst aspects of humanity. Sure more people remember his "anti-establishment" based rhetoric more, but he has also always shitted on his working class roots, too for example for often being lazy good for nothing losers. Dude's much smarter than people give him credit for despite his personal flaws. But he's always been anti-unethical bullshit rather than anti-establishment.
>Even Judy herself mentions that while he's kinda loudmouthed and outspoken
Probably scripted.
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Billy Bragg is a great example of an aged dignified activist. Don't particularly like his music but I respect him for that.
>but he has also always shitted on his working class roots, too for example for often being lazy good for nothing losers.
i also hope he's smart enough to avoid blanketing an economic class with such blanket assertions
Iggy Pop has been doing nothing but embarrassing himself for like 40 years now. Too much shit to list desu.
>how did so many of these people who were all about doing away with the cliches of rockstardom end up fulfilling every single one of those cliches?
Most of them weren't about doing away with the cliches of rockstardom though. The anti-60s posturing was in most cases just that: posturing for the sake of being more marketable to the kids who couldn't stomach Genesis or The Rolling Stones but still wanted to listen to 'edgy' rock music.
In reality both the bands and the critics loved all those cliches, they loved the drama, they loved the drugs, they loved the self-mythologizing, they loved the murders and/or suicides a la Vicious/Curtis, they loved the cookie-cutter political posturing a la The Clash and so on.
The Damned fucked themselves over by just focusing on being great songwriters and great performers instead of trying to develop some sort of mystique or controversy around them.
Joe Strummer was a far bigger clown than either Dave Vanian or Captain Sensible(both of whom actively relished in being clowns onstage), but he was the sort of pretentious and grandiose clown that Rolling Stone magazine and the NME would actually allow themselves to take seriously, so The Clash have ended up being "the only band that matters" and The Damned have ended up being a cult band. It sucks, but what can you do.
And yeah, I agree with your assessment of The Damned managing to age with grace. I actually had the chance to meet Vanian a couple of years back and he really still is a fucking great dude.
He's been that way even outside of JJ though (those pedo allegations that he laid back in 1978...that turned out to actually be true is the one thing I always think of.) That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if he did ham it up a bit considering it's an arbitration based TV show. Not to mention that the actual case work had him won already though I am not sure if the guys know about the result when being filmed.
He isn't blanketing though. I even mentioned that he looks at the worst of each side, meaning that he's not blanketing. Look up his exacting wordings, you can see he's not blanketing. You're the only one who's claiming that he's blanketing.
>blanketing an economic class with such blanket assertions
Kek'd
>Misfits in general: they're just the KISS of punkrock
t h i s
bob geldof in general
theres a bit in get in the van where rollins is talking about a time in the early 80s when black flag was touring the united kingdom and playing at some punk festival that also had the damned on the bill
flag's van died and left them in the middle of nowhere with no way to get to london, and the damned ended up being the only band to offer to drive them to london in their tour bus
i always thought that was really cool of them
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He's so much of a fucking idiot that I almost like him.
ive seen this guy before
Yeah, this is what I mean in that he takes being ridiculed in good spirit. Definitely stupid and obnoxious but has at least some ironic self-awareness.
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>the damned were the best of the original UK punk bands
The best fucking band.
That time Green Day did a show for some iheartradio event and had the most pathetic melt down ever.
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They are the mall department store brand name of punk.
The Goo Goo Dolls
>everything after their 3rd album, not just their music but literally everything they did as people after they put out their third album
O god
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I'm conflicted about Rollins.
In all honesty, I've sort of liked the spoken word, podcasts, the little acting and cameos he did after leaving the band, and above all his sort of outspoken sincerity no matter how corny it sounds, he just says whatever on his mind and you can see how he gets more level-headed and mature with age.
but there's this sort of arrogant side to him, that does stupid shit like that statement he made after Robin Williams' suicide. You can't of imagine a guy whose clearly capable of compassion making such a bullshit take on that.
so i'm really split on him as a person. I like his no-fucks-given approach to everything he does, because he just drops and does it, but I totally understand why some people dislike him.
Where tf do I go after the first 3 PIL albums?
The Robin Williams thing was the only no-fucks-given thing he's ever done, and he wnt back on it when he found out it doesn't conform to his audience's beliefs.
He's always been catering to safe mainstream liberal ideas and acting like it's a dangerous, rebellious thing to do and that he's so brave for dong it.
Pere Ubu
>mfw I realize that Jaw Wobble's probably my fav bass player
rollins is and always has been the american morrissey, for better or worse
i like morrissey better though
>Billy Joe Armstrong
>Punk musician
mmmmmhmmm
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Rollins is mature enough to admit when he's been an ass and occasionally apologize if he truly feels he was wrong, like in the Robin Williams suicide criticism. He's not the sort to save face with SJWs, but he's also not the sport of pompous ass who never admits his flaws when rightfully called on bullshit, ether. So I respect him.
Funny thing is, early on in their careers they were rejected by the punk scene for not being political enough, but they were making sincere music back then, when they weren't taking themselves seriously and were just writing songs about chronic masturbation. Ironically the harder they've tried to be 'more punk' the less punk they actually are.
Flipper - Generic Flipper
This Heat - Deceit
some of the stuff PIL did after those first three albums really isn't all that bad if you just want some straightforward and occasionally menacing new wave
some of it even feels fairly relevant and influential upon this neo-80s phase that we're going through in terms of music and pop culture
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the band is also really fucking tight live nowadays, lu edmonds is a master guitarist
I've never really thought of Lydon as an actual punk figurehead. His interviews are unintelligible nonsense, his political and current issues views ambiguous and he's never properly engaged with any kind of activism.
Love or hate him he's simply a lunatic who likes to fuck around in life.
>His interviews are unintelligible nonsense
because of all his interview are either fucking with the interviewer, or just not giving a fuck to collect his brain cells to give a clearcut answer
sort of like a shitposter irl
Like the user above said, he was never deeply anti-establishment, he just sees the bullshit on both sides
>gets sued by a retard
>ends up charming cranky old conservative dinosaur and winning
punk af desu
>cranky old conservative dinosaur
wew lad
why are you surprised? people grow out of their 20s
What are you talking about? I'm not surprised by anything. Judge Judy is like 1000 years old dude.
oh sorry haven't slept in like 3 days, thought you were referring to Lydon, fuck me
*waddles off*
>oh sorry haven't slept in like 3 days
isn't 3 days when the hallucinations start kicking in
no worries m8
So he's not SJW enough to be punk by your definition?
What?
that's maybe 7 days, but anything after 48 hours and your cognitive abilities just slip
I have a friend who does 4-day benders without any help from a substance and functions normally, I sort of envy him.
methamphetamine is pretty bad for you dude
He's not anything enough, that's my point. Punk is rooted in rebellious movement and besides shouting on stage and the occasional media quote he's totally apathetic to the world around him.
And why shouldn't he be, music has huge cultural influence but very little if any social.
>I have a friend who does 4-day benders without any help from a substance and functions normally
i'd like to be capable of pulling this off desu
most of the time i can't even duke it out for 24 hours
coffee does fuck-all for me too, and i'm straight-edge otherwise(aside from alcohol, but that shit just makes me moe prone to passing out so it doesn't really count)
i can guzzle that shit down like orange juice and i'll still feel the need to take a nap 20 mins later
Seriously. Sold out so you could minus your self a dick.
wtf I hate Against Me now
that was rad
and yeah I didnt see what wasnt punk about him
EXCUSE YOU NIGGA
Only Sup Forums would consider LGBT incompatible with punk
They may not have been fantastic, but Valley of the Dolls is an easy 8/10
nah, as long the singer/band isn't constantly harping on about it.