OK Sup Forums, leave your shitposting aside for 1 moment and tell me, unironically:
What are Trump's REAL chances at winning now?
Polls show Hillary getting advantage over him. Now that Bernie is out of the picture, Dems have allied and pushed Hillary through the roof.
Trump's sensationalist approach has worn thin, people got used to him, he no longer has shock value. He lost the support of the minorities (at one point he was the candidate with the most support from minorities). And the voice of leftist is heard more and more every day.
Other countries do not trust him at all. A lot of his followers are deterred from showing support (And thus bring in more followers) because the left has convinced many people that if you support Trump you're a racist, mysoginist and you shouldn't be entrusted with the right to vote, so followers, out of fear, simply keep quiet about him.
Gary Johnson has a better chance of winning the general
which is to say they both have 0 chance
and I hate shillary as much as anybody
but she's the luminati choice
Brayden Campbell
Dems are not allied. 45% won't vote for Hillary. Trump is slipping in the polls because of his own fuckups.
Mason Ortiz
The chances are bad.
Trump is an idiot, he was given a golden chance and he wasted it.
He lost all of the momentum. He didn't tried to educate the masses on his real intentions (i.e something like "I seriously have nothing against latinos, im againts illegal immigration, which is a different thing, and here's numbers to show you that illegals do bleed country from funds and contribute to insecurity" So now a bunch of undecided voters actually believed the stuff from the left and think that he is all of those things and that is also stupid. He made no attempt to clarify false/misleading things about him (i.e not clearing up that yes, 12 of his companies went bankrupt, but the other 500 are doing amazing).
His only chance now is to expose dirt on Hillary, if he's smart, he'll take advantage of the FBI verdict on the non-prosecution of clinton
Julian Hernandez
Unless shill dies probably 0%.
All real republicans are voting Johnson or abstaining. Only millenia demo are doing bernie or bust shit.
The balance is really in her favor here and every pole shows it.
Even if they're not allied, they're doing what they do best: Bullying people into supporting them. Like OP said: Anyone on social media who openly supports Trump is "burned" by flocks of dems/leftist and a lot of young people are not willing to go through that so they either support Trump silently (which doesn't give him more voters or improves public opinion on him) or they simply yield to the dems and start supporting anyone who isn't trump
Eli Watson
if trump was any threat to clintons shot at the presidency he'd be dead and replaced with romney or some other unelectable generic establishment republican
Isaac Ortiz
Ignore that, he STILL hasn't come out condemning the KKK that openly supports him. Duke made the news again tonight supporting the original meme trump pOster including that it was anti semetic.
He has no room to say the things you posted until he does so.
Daniel Sanchez
> "Saddam Hussein was a bad guy, right? ... But you know what he did well? He killed terrorists. He did that so good," Trump said. "They didn't read 'em the rights, they didn't talk. They were a terrorist, it was over."
Do you guys think that president Trump would give a fuck about your constitutional rights? He only ever praises tyrannical dictators like Saddam, Putin and the Chinese who shot protesters.
Charles Hughes
Actually hillary's been falling in the polls. They're even now, and she's still falling. Update your copypasta.
Thomas Kelly
>"I seriously have nothing against latinos, im againts illegal immigration, which is a different thing, and here's numbers to show you that illegals do bleed country from funds and contribute to insecurity"
Uh, he has said that, from the start. ANd he has a hell of a lot of latinos and other legal immigrants fully supporting him. Way to pay attention.
Logan James
Trump's money is a shield against any such attempts. His empire is enough to fight the clinton's
You simply cant kill a figure like trump, the cost would be too fucking high, literally the financial cost alone would probably be worth more than what the clintons would lose without the presidency
as and said his only chance is to clear out the misunderstandings and start an aggressive campaign that focuses on showing the people how much of a criminal killary is.
I've no idea why he hasnt done that yet, I want to believe that he's saving the best card for the end.
Matthew Moore
"Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States"
Jaxon Powell
"Bernie or bust" guess they finished busting today then.
Noah Bell
hes a winner, and has good values that i know he'll stand by
Zachary Powell
Dems haven't fully united behind Clinton yet, but they will.
Trump pandered to the most bigoted and extreme members of the Republican party to get the nomination and in so doing he alienated the swing voters he would need to win the general.
If he pivots center he loses his base and what little credibility he has to begin with, and swing voters won't believe him anyway.
You have to understand what a certified retard/lunatic Trump has been for years in the U.S. Kind of a laughing stock.
Chase Barnes
No, he has made poor attempts that honestly seem to be completely sarcastic, like his 5 de mayo tweet "I love hispanics!".
He hasnt made, say, a vid, or even a tweet, explicitly addressing the issue.
Explicitly explaining, with 0 room for doubt/liberals word twisting that he doesn't hates them and that he's actually the only candidate who's offering amnesty for deported people
And his support from minorities has dwindled.
Luis Anderson
Mexifag here, been following this election's process as an outsider, I am in Mexico and have never been a migrant to to the US, and it is my conclusion that at this moment it appears Trump will win. I think polls are largely unreliable at this point for the same reason they proved to be on the Brexit vote, and that is there's enormous disilusion in your political system. Trump offers the most viable alternative for things to actually change and while many people may intellectually understand the risks involved, right now I think the general mood, the zeitgeist so to speak, is in Trump's favor. Clinton very strongly represents status quo, whatever pledges she makes it is widely understood things will change very little.
I certainly hope I'm wrong, given Trump has all but declared economic war on my country, but I do genuinelly believe he's got the best chance to win right now.
Connor Diaz
Trump has the support of the people, but Hillary has the support of a corrupt establishment that isn't going to allow her to lose.
Xavier Garcia
good fucking point. Like I'm going to vote for a guy that's openly hostile to my rights as an american citizen when the government comes knocking
Jacob Robinson
If Trump had the support of the people he would be polling better. There aren't enough angry white guys to swing the election in his favor. He can't even unite the GOP ffs...
Christopher Edwards
What do Mexi normies around you think of Trump?
Bentley Howard
The polls are part of the lies.
Lincoln Davis
not that guy but im a latino and trust me they hate him and dont even bother to check anything about him, any news (and EVERY news about him here are negative) is crawling with people calling him racist and how latinos who support him are retarded traitors. These people cant even be remotely redpilled.
Without exaggerating I can safely tell you that right now, showing support/sympathy for hitler is more socially acceptable than openly declaring yourself as a trump supporter.
James Myers
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Austin Reyes
Indoctrination is a scary thing...
Nathan Ortiz
Believe no polls. The people shall decide this fall.
Caleb Gutierrez
dubs of truth
Dylan Price
All I know or need to know is that if Hillary gets elected the country will continue to die.
Trump till the end
Ryder Sanders
Yea right, Hillary is gonna win by a rigged-slide.
Mason Sullivan
believe no polls the people shall decide at the polls
Jeremiah Lewis
unironically? he'll win for sure. trump represents traditionalism and values most people miss from the so called "good ol' days"
Remember Ronald Reagan? An shitty actor & tv clown that made it to president. Trump is the same.
In an insane world, it makes sense to put someone insane in power
Chase Sanders
If Clinton wins, civil war begins.
Oliver Brown
at least he fully supports your right to have a gun for when the Liberals come knocking!
Nathaniel Robinson
in what fucking way? im in no way supporting Hillary but im down for a debate right now. So please tell me, how would Hillary Clinton spark a 2nd fucking civil war in the US>
Lucas Moore
yea right, America has grown too fat, lazy and complacent.
Colton Bell
Or we just give in.
Jackson Sullivan
The leftist agenda in our news media is simply too fucking big. Currently every major news outlet in our country not only doesnt supports him but they ridicule him at every chance they get.
Like about 3 weeks ago, He said something on twitter like "cant believe crooked hillary is doing x thing"; hillary replied with "delete your account". News outlets all over the country started reporting "BREAKING NEWS: HILLARY COMPLETELY DESTROYS AND SHUTS TRUMP'S BIG MOUTH WITH ONLY 3 WORDS" (I shit you not that was the title), accompanied by a pic of Trump's in the middle of lips movement to make him look like an angry retard.
Hunter Sanders
I disagree with the war thing, but she would be fucking terrible for the economy.
Dylan Collins
oh trust me I know that but i just wanted to hear some moron talk about something he has no idea about.
Luis Edwards
let's not forget the Jewish star horseshit. they know goddamn well it has nothing to do with Jews, but they want so badly to concoct this strawman of him.
Bentley Cox
In all fairness it's not just indoctrination, the Mexican stock exchange will be wiped out before Trump is even sworn into office if he wins. It isn't exactly a matter of perspective when the presidential candidate in the most powerful nation on earth has singled out your country to be put in the chopping block. Not that the racism is helping either...
Chase Jackson
It's the same here in The Netherlands, most of my family are absolutely glued to whatever the leftist agenda tells them. Sometimes it's hard not to go insane around them. I keep all of my 'political views' to myself around them
David Cooper
Yeah that's something right out of the Goebbels playbook. Gettin pretty spooky in here. You realize Trump would likely shutdown or significantly limit access to the internet yeah?
Brayden Long
Rednecks.
Landon Evans
Yeah it's getting annoying. Like the media thinks we're stupid. Everybody is smelling the bullshit from Obama and the Clintons. The FBI does what they are told instead of what is right. What other corrupt shit has this government done? How far does the corruption run?
Zachary Robinson
>significantly limit access
Yeah, sure. The moment he pulls China-ish internet censor is the moment all hell will break loose. Not going to happen.
Gabriel Cooper
Prety deep. I'd say all the way through. But that's ok. All corruption will slowly come to the light.
Colton Perry
You're right, I'm sure the conservatives, being absolute bastions of freedom and all will vehemently defend your right to trap porn in mom's basement. Besides nobody will give a fuck cause it won't be jewbook or twitter, but forget about pb, kat, vpns, Sup Forums, etc...
Isaiah Jackson
have pre-election polls ever been accurate?
Oliver Carter
according to my polls, Trump is winning with 69%, with over 9000 people polled. prove they're not accurate
Jason Fisher
Whoever wins, we are fucked.
Our best chance was Bernie, now he is out.
Cooper Howard
Wrong.
Michael Thomas
Look at the context: "They're not sending their best. They're rapists and criminals...and some of them are good people."
He's not talking about illegals here.
Leo Garcia
as of now 5% - 10%
Carson Hughes
Yes he is , you fucking MORON, he's talking SPECIFICALLY about illegals, and he's saying most of the illegals are scumbags, yet there are still some illegals that are good people too, they just need to come in LEGALLY. You fucking tool.
Matthew Miller
nothing is more entertaining than watching trump supports writhe and squirm over Hilary not being indicted by the FBI
they have pretty much just attached themselves to "the head of the FBI is a liar just like Hilary" without saying it directly. I guess the FBI has a "left wing bias" now and it's all just "the system"? I don't ever recall the former being the case in the past.
Ayden Scott
There's only one rational choice. Trump is nuts and Clinton is above the law.
Brody Howard
SEE YOU FAGGOTS ON NOV 8TH
John Jenkins
>conservative right-wing retards creating conspiracy theories >pretending we forgot you elected GWB
Lincoln Collins
You realize Trump is an entertainer right? And has been for a long time? That's like comparing the followers of Miley Cyrus to a candidate and saying "MILEY IS GONNA WIN SHES GOT ALL THE TWITTER FOLLOWERS"
Parker Reed
>thinking this is a reliable metric for voting patterns
Julian Jones
So if Katy Perry stood for president she'd win because of facebook likes?
Great logic.
Kevin Brooks
>HE HAS MORE LIKES ON FACEBOOK SO HE'LL WIN!!!!!
Actual question: are you that fucking stupid or just pretending? even i like him on facebook but won't vote for him.
Tyler Wright
>polls show hillary getting advantage over him
Citation needed. Every poll I've seen show that Clinton is up by roughly 5 points... down from 11 a month ago. 5 points is a toss up for a GE even as late as November since polls typically only collect data from ~1000 voters at a time and thus don't paint a very clear picture of the broader electorate and since most polls have a margin of error of +/-3 points.
tl;dr with polls from as recent as today showing Clinton with a 5 point lead, the race is essentially neck and neck.
Trump is gaining, not losing.
Jeremiah White
> A lot of people hate Trump > A lot of people hate Hillary > A small fraction of US voters actually vote
Will more trump haters of Hillary haters show up at the voting booth is anyone's guess. Either way it's amazing how both candidates have such overwhelming unfavorable ratings...
tldr whoever wins will be hated and criticized
Robert Johnson
fivethirtyeight wrote a piece on this recently... can't be assed digging up the article but basically they posed the same question "will more trump haters or clinton haters show up" and unfortunately for the dems, those who support Trump (older white males) have a much better track record of actually showing up to vote. Hispanics and blacks have a really poor record and so do young people.
Honestly Trump will win just because of this.
Brody Hernandez
I predicted a trump primary victory last August Not a Trump fan. He's GOING to win the election.
Christian Morales
also it is NOT just old white males who like trump. Trump has SUPPORT. and a MOVEMENT. Hillary doesnt have no fucking MOVEMENT Even Hillary's voters dont fucking like her. They're just doign their 'duty' Trump fans dont think its their duty. They think its their privilege. Trump will win.
Connor Adams
Paid shills still out in full force eh?
Ebin, simply ebin.
Aiden Rivera
I also predict that he will win,
But it's going to be a shit show and there will be riots. Nobody will be ready for it.
Ethan Gonzalez
definitely a possibility
Daniel Jackson
Everyone always says this. Everyone said Obama would be assassinated in his first year by white supremacists.
At the end of the day everyone will hold their breath in November and some will bitch and some will cheer at the result but really everyone will just move on and go home.
Robert Phillips
Don't dismiss Gary Johnson. His poll numbers keep climbing.
Brayden Hill
kek get a load of this faget
Kevin Lopez
Yeah, maybe this time he'll get 10% of the vote, instead of 5%.
Christian Moore
If Trump does what he says he’s going to do then your typical relatively harmless beta male will be better off in three main ways: significantly reduced crime (after the saboteurs / rioters paid by George Soros are mopped up), better job prospects and retrenchment of globalist/SJW anti-male and anti-white influence. Many of them are SJWs themselves but only because they believe what they are told by the corrupt liberal media. When that collapses they will simply believe the next thing they are told.
However the hardcore feminist / reddit / goon style beta males will probably lose what little sanity they have left. They will be sharply aware that many people around them voted Trump and believe that the long knives are coming out. Remember that they have completely bought into the anti-male and anti-white agenda in order to explain their own personal failings. When that is exposed as a lie they are left to face the raw truth of their own incompetence, stupidity and jealousy. That will be the starting point of a new better life for some, but others will simply go insane.
Thomas Allen
The fact is that once you start cosplaying as 2D girls you’ll have to move away from liberal/socialist views if you want to attract non-beta men. It’s irrelevant whether you’re gay or straight, asian or white, whether you would prefer to be owned by powerful white or black men. Dressing as a girl even once means you have no choice but to eventually take hard cock.
The more submissive you feel the more you’ll start to believe in male superiority. You’ll start to accept that maybe cute boys who dress as girls should become femboy slaves. Cucked-up virtue signalling betas simply won’t be attractive to you. Instead you’ll only be able to cum thinking about masculine gun owners turning you into a girl with their big, straight, Trump voting cocks. Replace Trump with Putin, Nigel Farage, Frauke Petry or whatever is appropriate depending on where you live.
Even if you hate Trump you’ll have to pretend to like him otherwise everyone will see you as an annoying SJW douche rather than the cute, compliant little fuck toy you really are deep down. And don’t worry, after you have enough alpha cum injected into your mouth and ass all those dirty liberal feelings will melt away.
Remember that your thoughts and opinions are simply not important compared to what real men think. You are just a subservient femboy who does what he’s told, not some uppity screeching harpy. You are a good boy, aren’t you?
Or are you going to tell me you don’t want a handsome, rugged, alpha boyfriend to take care of you? You wouldn’t want to serve him in any way possible? You don’t want to be completely controlled and dominated by a strong and forceful man? You’d rather have to babysit some Alexander Jahans style giant pussy who blames everyone else for his problems and thinks the government (aka taxpayers) should give him free money for sitting on his lazy ass? Success turns you off? Of course not. You want alpha cock.
Sebastian Ross
No, Trump is not punishment. The average liberal pansy will have a better life. It’s only “people” like Clinton, George Soros, Jeff Bezos, Angela Merkel, Islamic terrorists and crime gangs who are going to be punished. So then how is making America great again a bad thing? Can you provide me with anything he has said that would be bad for America? Mainstream media lies are not admissible by the way, only facts. You’ll have to remove the globalist corporate cock from your mouth before answering though.
Samuel Bailey
I don’t like Bernie Sanders supporters or reddit users as a whole, but it is still bullshit how the lugenpresse libels and slanders them. I see that once again the “Berniebros” are being smeared with accusations of being misogynistic trolls over the “abuse” that Roberta Lange allegedly received due to their anger at her actions. I enjoy seeing liberals tear each other apart but the poisonous anti-male luegenpresse narrative and political machine is still disgusting to see.
I think normal people watching all of this are beginning to see liberals and SJWs for what they really are: inhuman, evil, sociopathic monsters. I’m sure many Bernie Sanders supporters are just naïve and child-like which sadly leads them to believe in the proven lie of socialism. Clinton supporters on the other hand truly are irredeemably despicable.
Carter Fisher
All I can confidently believe is that liberalism, socialism and globalism are clearly wrong and the product of sociopathic thinking. I know that such people are the enemies of humanity. Things like virtue signalling and sociopathic altruism are the everyday manifestations of these people, whereas politicians, feminists and globalists are the elite and seemingly untouchable manifestations.
Jack Rivera
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Jonathan Cox
as soon as the FBI decided not to charge hilldawg i knew trump fags were btfo
she's clearly the establishment's candidate. even the GOP doesn't want trump in office.
as if the president is that important anyway, the office is just a stamp; they just sell policy decisions to the public, they don't actually make them
but the masses demand distractions so elections we must have. the al smith dinner roast should be good.
Hunter Roberts
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Adrian Baker
You think the femminist/tumblr/sjw/lgbt crowd is bad now.... wait until hillary is elected..
Jack Diaz
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Kevin Baker
If you don't like the options, stop voting for shitty candidates.
Gary Johnson is Fiscally-conservative and socially-liberal. He'll hit 15% and be in the debates... and Clinton not being indicted doesn't help her considering what the FBI Director said. Trump will continue to be Trump.
Johnson has a legitimate chance as the independents (which make up the majority of the population ) HATE Trump and Clinton.
Parker Martin
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Jordan Evans
The FBI refusing to act on clintons crimes is the best thing for Trump. I don't think he would have beaten Sanders in the general.
David Watson
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Owen Sanchez
It's great news for Gary Johnson since a good number of those voters are voting for him or Jill Stein.
Xavier Powell
He is too smart and too successful not to get elected. He cares about this country.
Just look at the two approaches: Trump wants to build a wall to stop illegal immigration. Is it the right thing? Who knows but at least he's doing something, same with banning Muslims. Is it right? Gee Bob I don't know but I'd rather see him do the wrong thing than nothing at all.
Hillary: "We should be tearing down walls, not building them!" Oh, so do nothing then? Same with Muslims, absolutely nothing will be done. She's a phony and a fake and I'll take dishonest Donald over her anyday.
Remember Trump's chances when he put in his bid? Yeah, they weren't that high then either.
Cooper Foster
> The FBI refusing to act on clintons crimes is the best thing for Trump.
elaborate
Lincoln Jenkins
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Asher Powell
Someone already tried to assassinate Trump, though. Granted, it was a pussy, limp-wristed attempt. I think it'd be the first of many if he were actually elected.