If Portugal wins the Euros, is Ronaldo better than Messi?

If Portugal wins the Euros, is Ronaldo better than Messi?

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he has always been better than messi

nah

he could cure cancer and would still be worse than messi

Doing fuckall most of the time and getting carried to a cup doesn't make you the best player in the world, or it shouldn't. However, Cristiano Ronaldo is a special case in which it does, and I'll never understand that. Either way, they won't win, but for some reason, people will still compare him to Messi.

Is Ronaldo still a diving bitch?

>Team A doesn't play Team B

>Team A plays in League 1, loses final

>Team B plays in League 2, wins final

>Team B is better than Team A

doesn't work that way bub

Hmm let's think about this for a minute.

Both have won the champions league but only one of them has won it with two clubs. Both have won the Balon Do'r but only one of them has won it with two clubs. Both of them play in shitty national teams but only one of them carries their national team properly. If Ronaldo wins the Euros he is infinitely the unironic GOAT. Better than Messhit, better than Pele, Maradona, Beckham etc.

Deal with it, virgins.

>Both of them play in shitty national teams

Argie NT isn't shit Kevin, they have more talent and better coaching than Brazil, they almost beated germany in 2014 WC final.

4 CL's > 3 CL's
2 Trebles > 0 trebles
5 ballon d'ors > 3 ballon d'ors
Carry your average NT to a Euros final > Lose three finals with your above average NT

Messi wins 3-1,

name checks out

>argentine national team
>no president
>no vice president
>coaches dont get paid
>they have no authority over anyone
>no chartered flights
>no structure
>no plan
>corrupt as fuck

and Messi can still get to a world cup Final

the only way Ronaldo can be better than Messi is to win the world cup, and no .. winning the Euro after beating Wales for the semi-final is not enough.

also in what aspect is Ronaldo better than Messi? Scoring? Messi has the all-time record for most goals scored in a year and he has scored in multiple CL finals without needing a penalty to do it. There's a reason why Real Madrid didn't win anything with Ronaldo for 6 years until Bale came.

only if he doesnt messi his penaldo

oh yeah wait til someone says "but muh goals in the champions league"

17 goals vs Malmo, Shakhtar, Roma,etc
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literally the tap in master

I unironically agree with what you posted but since you're a tripnig kys pls

You completely missed the point, my friend. Ronaldo has managed to win those things with different clubs, Messhit is a systembabby in his Barca cocoon.

He's unironically been carried by his team for most of the tournament but he'll pose for the camera as ife carried them

Been diving trying to get penalties the entire tournament

Wayne Rooney has already stated Messi > Ronaldo when asked which was the best
Hang yourself, abbo cunt

Wayne Rooney and his 75 IQ. Amazing.

(for me its also messi > ronaldo but using rooney as your source is a bit pathetic=

please stop replying to the tripfag, thanks

I doubt ronaldo has a higher IQ, it's not like footballers are known for their intelligence and Rooney was his teammate as well
Lampard has said the same etc
I hate the idea that penaldo will get credit instead of all the players who have been carrying, that renato has a bright future

in 2008 terry slipped to give Ronaldo the Champions league even after Ronaldo missed his penalty

in 2014 Ramos scored in the 92nd minute even if Ronaldo did fuck all

in 2016 the SAME THING happened with Ramos scoring

where was Ronaldo?

Thinking of how tight Badr's cock would fit in his asshole

It was a bit of a shitpost. I'm no Einstein myself.

SAF always considered Ronaldo the more complete player btw. Players/manager's opinions is not the best argument.

The one who wins a world cup is the better one

but yours is better? kek

Messhit:
>a disgusting criminal
>pathetic quitter
>choker
>no heart

Ronaldo
>carrying his national team
>leading by example
>passionate as fuck (pic related)
>doesn't give up

his team has carried him

yes

agreed

>There's a reason why Real Madrid didn't win anything with Ronaldo for 6 years until Bale came

youre legally retarded.
stop posting

If he won the euro scoring at least one goal, he will beat messi and become the best

messi will never win euros
CR7 is GOAT

How good was Ronaldo in his one Nou Camp season? Did he enjoy a night out even then? Did you get into any scrapes?

>I’d seen him on television at PSV and thought ‘wow’. Then he came to Barcelona. He’s the most spectacular player I’ve ever seen. He did things I’d never seen before. We’re now used to seeing Messi dribble past six players, but not then. He was strong, a beast.

-Luis Henrique, 2015

He either scored the goals himself or did the assist, how is that being carried? Not playing one on eleven?

this was about fenomeno btw

players/coaches cant be taken as universal truth

Why does his face not look like a real persons face? What is wrong with him?

He is already better than Messi

Even if Messi ended his career right now and Ronaldo goes on to win everything he plays for, Messi is still the better player.

this

Just to make sure you stick to your logic, is fat Ronaldo the GOAT?

Messi has way more technique and it's nicer to watch

But Ronaldo has so much more heart and discipline

Won't happen and no

Why do you faggots feel the need to compare players with different play styles?

Does it really matter who's best?

>TSUU wins CL, Balon dor AND euros in 1 year

>Messi chokes AGAIN, retires from argentina after winning nothing ever and gets a 21 month jail term

>bandwagoners still think messi is better.

because he won the champions league without doing anything but kicking the last penalty, the euros he's winning coming in 3rd in the group stage and drawing a fucking hungarian team playing bench warmers because they already qualified for the knock out rounds. His entire career is a farce, from the moment terry slipped until now.

can any of you bros post that gif of ronaldo using a laptop and smiling?

pepe has more reasons to win the ballon dor than ronaldo

Messi carries Argentina
Portugal carries Ronaldo

It's ridiculous that people judge players on one game, one goal, one performance, one medal.
What if Ronaldo has the worst game of his life and Nani scores the winner?
What if Messi did nothing in the final and Higuain scored the winner?
What if Ronaldo scores a hattrick but they lose 4-3?

The World Cup all time top scorer and winner of the trophy, Miroslav Klose, would never get mentioned in the top 100 players of all time.

Anyways it absolutely clear that Messi is a better footballer than Ronaldo. There's no combination of goals and trophies that could change that unless Ronaldo enter some sort of God mode for the next few years.

>What if Ronaldo scores a hattrick but they lose 4-3?

that already happened and he got a standing ovation at old trafford

>portugal
>literally just ronaldo pepe and some who's

>argentina
>every player in the 11 is worth 30m+

fucking kek

desu we tried everything, no regrets about "wasting the GOAT"

We tried making a team that works without him, and putting him on top of it, so he doesn't feel the pressure (Basile). It didn't work.

We tried making a team that plays like Barcelona so he can feel comfortable (Martino, Batista). It didn't work.

We tried making a team that is good at defending and making him the center of our attack, Maradona 1986 style (Sabella). It didn't work.

He chokes against Brazil. Okay, Brazil is a great team. He chokes against Germany. Okay, Germany is a great team. He chokes against Uruguay, okay, they are world champions.

We sacked coaches and players because he didn't like them (Riquelme, Tevez, Basile). We put in coaches and players just because he asked (Martino and his Newell's friends).

He doesn't score in KO games? Maybe he's saving up for the next game. Maybe he's saving up for the final.

Now he had this chance in silverware. He only had to perform against Chile (so you understand how small they are, 3 people died celebrating a Copa America). Many people would have hailed him as the GOAT, even though winning a Copa America of which we have 14 already doesn't mean much.

Not only he doesn't perform, that's okay, another bad day. Not only he doesn't score, it's okay, 11 KO games without scoring, but it's okay, he's still good. Not only he doesn't assist, it's okay, it's your team mates right? They are your friends Messi, you sacked Tevez, you asked for Higuain and Aguero. But okay, we get it, you didn't assist.

On top of all that, he doesn't even run. He just walks the pitch. Fuck him.

>old trafford
but what about people who know about football?

>The World Cup all time top scorer and winner of the trophy, Miroslav Klose, would never get mentioned in the top 100 players of all time.


Exactly the reason why no real professional things Ronaldo is one of the best ever.
The things he does are just ordinary

look at his goals for fucks sake
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absolute joke

hey it was a pretty impressive hat trick I would have clapped for him too

Judging by individual skill, I think Messi is better. Also better than Zidane, Maradona and Ronaldo9.

However, CR7 (as far as I can judge) has a better character, more heart and is overall not a smug little manlet autist.

I'd love watching Ronaldo win the trophy, it will be the ultimate humiliation to Messi.

he has better character? for the entirety of his 20s he was a diving little cunt pansy pretty boy that had dumfuck comments like "they hate me because i'm rich, handsome, and a good player"

that's better character?

do you realize why he looks good now? Because he's 31 years old
Thirty-fucking-one

Ronaldo is retired, Cristiano Puto is irrelevant.

Messi was a striker most his career until Suarez came along.

>inb4 WAAAH HE WASN'T A STRIKER FUCK YOU

he was, center forward, whatever. striker.

The serious answer is no.
The meme answer is lol.
He might be more succesful. But Ronaldo is not better than Messi.

The difference between them should be clear to anyone who has regularly watched the both of them.

pretty much this. how the fuck do people still see Messi as the hero?

I assume you're not shitposting.

Everyone has statements like these in his career but Messi hardly comes over as likable. Ronaldo also never shot a ball into other team's fans or slapped someone in the face.

Higuain is worth £30. Doesn't stop him missing from 10 yards out every time he plays for Argentina.

Messi played some of the best football I've ever seen in this Copa. Messi and Mascherano dragged them to the world cup.

against Panama, Venezuela, USA and Bolivia.

WOW.

oh and the previous WC: Iran, Bosnia, Nigeria, Switzerland.

but no one EVER calls the easy as fuck roads that Messi always gets. no one ever calls out his bullshit """best player of the tournament"""" awards.

get that manlet dick out your mouth bitch

Because Ronaldo comes across as arrogant because he's the pretty boy and Messi is the autist that dindu nuffin and is humble and all that bullshit. That's the perception that people have, so they'll ignore Messi when he steps out of line, but put a big spotlight on Ronaldo being a sore loser against Iceland.

Although Ronaldo does have annoying traits, like being unable to accept that he's shit at free kicks or penalty's. He should learn that it's okay to shift responsibility sometimes, but apparently can't cope with the feeling that he's letting people down.

>has a better character
literally throws tantrums, accuses referees of being bought and punches rivals when he can't win
>more heart
he becomes invisible in most games, specially when the score is against
>not smug
lel
>win the trophy, it will be the ultimate humiliation to Messi
messi has won 7 trophies and a balon dor in the last two seasons, ronaldo ''''''won''''' a cl being invisible and without eliminating a single champion of league or cl

But Americans clap for everything

Kek

Messi has Asperger's.

If you like Messi, you like an autistic fucboi

>no one ever calls out his bullshit """best player of the tournament"""" awards.

It was widely met with disbelief.

>t. assblasted Barcafag

I don't think they play the same football at all and that it's retarded to compare them.

I'll still take Messi as a matter of principle. He's an autistic manlet and yet he doesn't dive like a bitch everytime he can.

I don't think anyone realizes what hattrick (or which Ronaldo) the American is talking about.

>But Ronaldo is not better than Messi.
he is by a mile, but that isn't a huge achievement as messi is pretty shit.

Too pussy for that, he'd rather insult Iceland during a press conference.

Messi literally had 4-5 man of the match awards with the highest rating in the world cup. The only players higher than him were defensive +Kroos, and no one is going to give Kroos the golden ball.

You want to judge the road to the final

Round 1: Germany vs Algeria, Argentina vs Switzerland

this is a fucking joke, Switzerland is 30x the team that Algeria is. No contest.

Round 2: Germany vs France, Argentina vs Belgium

this is also no contest with Belgium being at its strongest this world cup with everyone at around 26 years old and Hazard in his prime. France was just starting with Deschamps after that shitty Blanc and they qualified through playoff with a 3-2 win over Ukraine. No contest to Argentina.

Round 3:
Germany vs Brazil, Argentina vs Netherlands

this at first seemed like Brazil would be harder but they didn't even have Neymar thanks to colombia and up to this point, Robben looked like the terminator.

and where was Ronaldo?
oh that's right, sitting at fucking home in 3rd place in his group behind the US

the same fucking position he was in this Euro cup, 3rd fucking place behind Hungar and Iceland

ronaldo fags can just fuck off. Fucking shits.

They won't

damn. you're delusional

lol Belgium would have lost to fucking USA if Wondo wasn't so shit

Don't forget that Messi is an autistic retard and a documented PED abuser literally since childhood

>We don't have a striker
>We play with two meme wingers up front
>Our own good sector is the midfield and its ruined by Renato Sanches
>Jorge Mendes forces our coach to field Renato, André Gomes and Moutinho
>Our Full backs are from fucking Llorient and a backup from memehampton
>mfw we will still win

Messi is absolutely better at football than Ronaldo. You could say that Ronaldo is like Hilbert, while Messi is like Euler or Gauss. Both are geniuses, but the former is once in a decade, while the latter is once in a century.

It literally doesn't matter if Messi evades taxes or is a "autistic retard and documented PED abuser". Messi could murder someone in cold blood, it still wouldn't change that he's better at football than Ronaldo.

Because Sup Forums identifies with the manlet autist, it isn't difficult to grasp.

In a real tournament Portugal would've been kicked out in the group stages

>PED abuser literally since childhood
standard treatment for all kids with hgh deficiency until he was 15

not only is he not better than messi, he is not even better than bale, or griezmann

aside from one Liga and Copa del Rey, hes right.

6 years with Ronaldo, Benzema, Oezil, Di Maria:
1 league, 1 Copa (thanks to Di Maria and Oezil's 40 assists)

3 years with Bale: 2 Champions leagues, 1 Copa
MotM in the CL: Di Maria, Ramos

don't mind Ronaldo though, he's just getting a free ride.
This is fucking Beckham tier where his brand and persona are stronger than what he actually contributes in finals

thats more than the other ronaldo won at madrid

lmao he can't even score fucking penalty against Austria when it's matters, if this is 16 tournament format Portugal won't be in final

messhit is a troll and shit at foorball. Guy needs 10 tries for every 1 goal and get make a play at all.

He's the most overrated player in history

I'm fucking died with all the Americans thinking they know anything about Football

go back to sleep Pekka you are truly embarrassing

Absolutely. National tournaments are on a different level than club ones. 1 Euro is more important than any number of Champions League titles. Well, I suppose it doesn't make him "better", just makes his accomplishments bigger.

But Argentina is MUCH more stacked team.

I fail to see why people don't realize that without CR Portugal would be almost as bad as England.

you are worse than England in
>points
>goals
>differential
>wins

so yes, Portugal with Ronaldo is worse than England
literally the only reason you are in the tournament after match 3 is because Hungary decided to bench their players and you couldn't even win that free game.

how about you try to refute anything I say troll dick sucker

>that post
>that flag
>muh statistics

You just can't get tired of making yourself look bad.
Stick to baseball, chap.

>Ronaldo's Euro cups - 1
>Messi's Copa America cups - 0
do you need to ask?

pretty spot on
Sup Forums is just very TSUndere towards the true GOAT