Was Suarez abusing a loophole or would a new rule make things to complicated?

Was Suarez abusing a loophole or would a new rule make things to complicated?

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We wouldn't be having this thread if that nigger whose name I've long forgotten didn't choke that penalty.

He literally did nothing wrong. Ghana got a penalty and Suarez got a red card.

What loophole could he possible have abused? He got a red card and missed the next game.

I remember being 13 and watching this and being like wtf, I wanted Suarez and Uruguay dqed

Now I realizee he got punished dutifully for his penalty and Uruguay rightfully went through

He was certainly a good boy for his team, he didn't do nuffin.

This. There is no loophole and when you're going up against fucking muslera in a pk you should convert it

Asamoah Gyan

this

This just reminds me of intentionally fouling in basketball on a fast break. Take a 100% chance to score and make it a 80% chance to score. Guy committing the foul gets penalized and the other gets an opportunity to score

You have to agree you have to be a Maradonna style motherfucker to pull that off though.

turning a guaranteed goal into a 75% chance of goal isn't very fair senpai.

this kind of shit must be considered a goal and a red card for the player who tried to cheat

Pretty much this. Same thing with defenders making rough challenges.

FUCK YOU FUCKING CHEATER APOLOGYST

HOPE YOU GET RAPED BY SOME FAVELA NIGGER

caps completely intentional

this match was so good. great dramaturgy

But a penalty and a red card is a very severe punishment. He couldn't play in the semi-finals against Netherlands and in the end Uruguay lost.

the best game of 2010 senpai

Intentional fouling to stop a goal should just be given the goal. Don't even have to bother with red carding them just award the goal

it's not severe

>turning a guaranteed goal into a 75% chance of goal isn't very fair senpai.

awarded goal and red card

>all these mad negritos

>make conscious decision to take a risk and maybe save a goal
>save goal
>get red card
>miss next game
>leave team without a good PK taker for shootout
>give opponent opportunity to score anyway. good PK takers score 9 times out of 10
>they fuck it up
>waaaaah injustice
fuck off. rat man is a cunt but he did the right thing, got punished accordingly. end of story.

best game ever

it's ok, maurice. we'll have to disagree on this one

>maurice
>not Pierre

suarez's handball was just as much a professional foul like what solskjaer did

legally all correct

What's the point of awarding the goal AND the red card?
That would be unfair

to prevent players from trying, otherwise they'll all do handballs

He is properly punished according to the rule, unlike Maradona goal

play to win faggots

I thought it was fair. He got carded and didn't play the next game.

>properly punished

no since it changed the outcome

And the red card by it self isn't a punishment?
Why are you trying to award a goal for a shot that had not crossed the line yet?

>Implying any of us wouldn't handball to prevent a goal in the last minute of the QF of the world cup

i am aware that it's correct under current rules, the question is wheather it could be considered a loophole because hi-def cameras will capture such situations much more often and making some cases very hard to decide for the referee.

If gyan makes the penalty it wouldn't have mattered
Why do you act as though there was no consequence?
Suarez only possibly delayed the inevitable
Ghana had another chance

>2010 was 6 years ago

The situation in which it is beneficial to do this is so small it's not worth the effort. Plus it provides great drama.

>been on Sup Forums for 11 years

This desu.
Had Gyan scored the fucking pen like a professional player is expected to, nobody would even remember that shit. But chokers gonna choke.

been on Sup Forums since the last 3 digits of a get were hidden

yes because the ball would have stopped and fell on the ground instead of crossing the line right?

a guaranteed goal vs a 75% chance to score is the same in your mind. bravo

t. M'bolo

What if Suarez hadn't handballed and let it go in then scored a hat trick and Ghana wouldn't even go to penalties. It doesn't fucking matter what could have happened, Ghana were awarded a penalty and Uruguay were forced to play with 10 men for the rest of the match something which the nig nogs couldn't capitalize on

Of course it's another South American who thinks it's ok.

We wouldn't have to have these discussions at all if your entire continent could play even 10 minutes of a game fairly.

Checked

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Until the ball crosses the line there is no goal
That's a fundamental part of the game


>a guaranteed goal vs a 75% chance to score
Obviously it wasn't because it was stopped
Next

c'est toi le negre, negre.

Uh
The pk was the last kick of extra time
But you're right

you have the mentality of a nigger are you aware of that?

I think in a case like this a consultation goal should be an option

Some people think what he did was completely legal as the rules set a punishment for it.
I think it's cheating plain and simple

He's scum

fäm, he broke the rules and he was punished by doing it. you can argue that result of the match wasn't fair, but Suarez/Uruguay actions were punished according to rules of the game

>75%
Figure pulled right out of your ass.

Suarez ain't looking for shit except meat

Fucking phone!

Consolation goal *

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73% actually, what did you expected it would be? 99%?
you mong.

It's entirely up to the shooter. In this case the shooter was a mong.

Go to bed kid, it's late.

So should we allow goals for all professional fouls then?
Nothing was unfair
Suarez kept the ball out and paid the price for it
I mean, what exactly is supposed to do here?
Let the ball go in and disappoint his countrymen?
If Ghana wanted the consolation goal they should have made the penalty

I don't care for Ghana just like most of you but if it was your team that was fucked over by this fucker you would be pissed guaranteed.

t. teenager
Exactly, if you allow a goal for this then just about any foul in the box should just award a goal. It's fucking stupid.

They had the chance to win
The penalty and then the shootout

People are confusing this for a situation like the France-Ireland playoff
Completely different set of circumstances

A penalty is not equal to a guaranteed goal though. They've taken a ball crossing the line unimpeded and put a goalie in front of it as well as an unquantifiable level of pressure.

The ref worked within the rules of course, doesn't mean they shouldn't get looked at

And what exactly is a professional foul? Without insults if you can.

I think I'd be more pissed at the guy missing a decisive penalty at the last minute of regular time.

>professional foul
Other team launches a counter attack, midfielder knows his team is out of position and at risk, he "accidentally" trips on the leg of the guy starting the counter. Worst case he gets a yellow, and his team has the time to get back in positions to defend.

>first world posters going full "the law sucks because muh feelings are hurt"
>third world posters saying the rule is the rule

What kind of bizarro world is this?

It is not forbidden to stop the ball with your hands. You can do it. It's a tactical foul. But the consequence is red card + penalty.

>but he was guaranteed 100% to score!!!

No, since a player can use his hands and be punished for it. In this case you have a 0% probability to score, and the penalty kick gives you 75% instead.

Just a foul then ?

If Suarez's handball had gone unpunished (no red card or pk) then Ghana would have a legitimate gripe since they would have been robbed of a chance of winning
But they didn't
Gyan had the chance to score and win and failed

Yes and no. Fouls often just happen, in this case it's 100% deliberate and turns a strong advantage into nothing.

Glad they got knocked out, there was a lot of 'do it for Africa' shite because Ghana was the last African team left in an African held tournament.

No, a professional foul is an intentional foul to stop an attack. Watch an Atletico, they do 10 a game. A regular foul could just be a mistimed tackle.

It's a loophole because normally, the rules would benefit the team who suffered the foul, but in these exact circumstances, it totally worked out in the bad guys's favour.

And no, we shouldn't have a new rule.

No loophole, he got red carded and suspended the next game. Gyan should have converted the penalty.

Gyan has the perfect profile of a guy who skies penalties. Ghana can only blame themselves.

This is from the fifa laws, doesn't change anything, I just found it interesting

>a player is sent off, however, if he prevents a goal or
an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately
handling the ball. This punishment arises not from the
act of the player deliberately handling the ball but
from the unacceptable and unfair intervention that
prevented a goal being scored

Suarez did nothing wrong there. He comitted a fault and was properly punished for that. Only Ghana can blame themselves for not scoring the penalty.

No
A professional foul gives the offending team a small advantage
In his example, the player stops a counter attack and gives his team a time to get back and defend

It's not like though the team gets a huge advantage
That's another thing about Suarez's handball
It raised Uruguay's win probability to 13.5% (chance to miss pk and then 50/50 on the shootout)
It's not as if that won the game for them

Pig fucker was afraid France was about to score so he tried to do the same, except Griezmann fortunately scored his penalty
btw the "foul" that even led to that free kick didn't exist
youtube.com/watch?v=jasUK3D9cYY

And?
Nothing was violated
Suarez did act like a little bitch afterwards but that's not against the rules either

This thread wouldn't have existed if Gyan had handled Suarez's shot sending Ghana into the semis
This is all about Suarez

Suarez is a terrible person who has done a bunch of bad things in soccer terms
This ain't one of them

Calm your tits. Just showing how his red was for unsporting conduct, an "unfair intervention". I don't get how people think this falls inside the rules somehow just because he was sent off.
But really, I don't care

Schweini got lucky that the ref didn't think Evra's header was a real scoring chance.

It's a shame that Suarez has to take all the heat for this. Any player would've probably done the same thing in this situation. Hell, if you go by the replays, you can actually see Fucile trying to block the ball with his hands as well.

it was all a meme

i used to post "is an horse a athelete"

rare pepes and "leave x to me" all on my computer screen

no nigger mentality is when you fucking choke. That's why they've never won anything of note because in the big fucking moments they know they can't do it.

You're reading too much into the "unfair" part of that

No he was only thinking about not letting that ball cross the line. If there's one thing for certain about Suarez it's that he does anything to win.

I might be but how do you mean?

If Gyan had scored off of a pk he won from a dive no one outside Uruguay would have cared after a couple of days

>people who argue "everything went according to the rules so what suarez did was fine"

It's an utter scum move and the quintessential example of unsportsmanlike behaviour.
If some dude intentionally breaks some other guy's legs and ends his career you don't go "well he got a red card so all is well".

That's because none of the Ghana players have a legendary track record of reprehensible degeneracy. Luis Suarez is Ched Evans-tier when it comes to popularity.

Letting the goal go in wouldn't have made him any more popular, though.

You literally do though. Roy Keane did that exact thing, and nobody talks about it now.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alf-Inge_Håland

>the judge forces you to pay the victim/fine AND go to jail, that's so unfair

>nobody talks about it now.
Eh, keane still gets shit talked for some of the things he did, and rightly so.

Nothing in that wiki articles describes my example.

Two incomparable things

>britishit complaining about cheating
never forget 66 finals, faggot

Uh no
Again, two incomparable situations

Theres no reason to changing the rules. Humans mistakes and decisions are part of the sport.

Can anyone seriously explain me what's wrong with this? There was no cheat, he got red carded and a penalty was called. It's literally the same as tactical fouls, except he actually got punished for doing it. He left his team with one less player and an almost certain goal against. Unlike the bite, it wasn't made with the intention of pulling the opposition out of their game. It was inside the boundaries of football(handballs happen all of the time, it isn't like he pulled a weapon and gouged a nigger's eye out) and it was literally the best posible action.
How is it that you cannot understand this?

They are very much comparable.
Complete disregard for the spirit of competition and fair play.

>people trying to equate a fucking volleyball safe on the line to tactical fouls, dives or other significantly smaller infractions

wew laddie

One's about the result of the game
The other is a more serious matter
Like Suarez's bites
Completely different from that handball
If you think it was against the spirit of competition then any professional foul would be too