I found this webshop on the internet which sells legal drugs ( pic related ) and I was wondering if anyone has any...

I found this webshop on the internet which sells legal drugs ( pic related ) and I was wondering if anyone has any experience with this webshop?

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They do have a Live chat which is active, I am talking to them right now..

I’m slightly curious about it but it seems legit.

Though so myself

depends on the country.

if you in some third world shit hole you probably fine.

otherwise you'll have to provide identity that you are affiliated with a lab or a research institution.

its worth noting that the chemicals are not pharmaceutical grade, i.e. you cant eat them because too many impurities.

that being said, there are some grey market drugs that you can get from these places, but again, you need to be affiliated with a research institution before they'll send it to you

So if I wanted them to ship to the US, i’d be screwed?

imo if you are after just common grey market drugs, better off just buying from a supplement website.

if you plan to buy precursors and manufacture, then you're fucked.

the companies themselves will tip off the cops. that way they dont take any of the blame.

yeah. firstly they wont pass customs. all packages of white powder shipped from these companies usually gets taken in by customs, regardless of what it says, on the label.

if you are shipping from within the same country, its less likely, but also kind of pointless.

what drugs are you after anyway?
most of the grey market ones are already being distributed by third party supplement vendors

I just ordered 10,- of 4-FMP, and I only had to agree to the terms. Got an e-mail that my order was received, all seems legit to this point

I’m just new and curious about this, I didn’t even know there were grey market drugs.

what you pay in?
you realize that all amphetamine class drugs are restricted right?

>Ulti Research Chemicals© makes no claims that the products offered may be lawfully purchased outside of the Netherlands. Purchasing the offered products may not be legal by certain persons or in certain countries. If you purchase the offered products from outside of the Netherlands, you do so at your own risk and are responsible for compliance with the laws of your jurisdiction

you fucked.

I am from The Netherlands, so I may be lucky, who knows

naw bro these chems online are perfectly legal, they schedule new chems every years then these guys just make new analogues.. its the new way to legally drug deal

4-FMP also is a unscheduled chem. You are buying chemicals, not drugs, its not for human consumption.

It is however exactly the same molecule as drugs, only on a fluor base, which makes it legal ( unless you eat it )

basically there's white market - i.e. legally purchasable drugs, like paracetamol
you're allowed to have em
then there's prescription drugs - codeine, benzos, etc. etc.
you're allowed to have em provided you have a script for it, and have a valid need for it
then there's black market drugs - the usual
you cant have em, there's no medical use for them.

grey market drugs fit somewhere between black and prescription.
when they figure out a drug does something, its not just the drug, its the whole drug class.
take piracetam as an example. its the first in its class, most researched. acts to increase acetylcholine transmission in brain = make people smarter.
then they have the other drugs in its class, discovered later, in an attempt to discover a better version ( you currently need 2g of piracetam to get a therapeutic effect, every 4 hours).
then came oxiracetam, aniracetam, levitriacetam.
oxitracetam has a mild stimulating effect, aniracetam has a mild anxiolytic effect, etc etc.

currently the only medically approved use of these drugs is levitracetam for seizures.
the rest are in the grey market. i.e. they are unregulated. hence you can use em as you please.
when they made one illegal to have, it does not account for the other analogues, and whilst piracetam is prescription only in australia, the others are allowed.
then they changed the policy, such that all racetam class drugs are not allowed (to a degree). so now they move onto other drugs with racetam like action but arent in themselves part of the drug class, like noopept.

such is the breadth of grey market drugs

yeah but not 4-FMP. its classified as an amphetamine.

So how would I go about buying some of these grey market drugs in the US?

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depends which ones. what do you need?
interstate would be safest.

international is alright, but if customs decides to be a bitch about it, best to let it go least you end up on some watchlist.

look at supplement websites. they usually have some stock. dont buy brands, just raw chemicals, maybe in capsules, but powder is cheaper.

as for some drugs, they're in that grey area whilst still being prescription. i.e. you can get em if you try, it wont be fully legal, but most people wont do anything (save for customs).

there's a legal loophole where you can get diagnosed with something in a foreign country by a foreign doctor and be allowed to take medication for it back into this country provided you have a script.
only you dont visit the foriegn country, get diagnosed over the internet, get your meds sent to you with a script signed by a doctor from over there.

So if your from The Netherlands your always safe with this webshop?

I just want anything to start out with. Can you point me in a direction of where to buy them without a prescription? For example, a website?
Thanks for the help and clarification.

nope. the one exception is controlled substances.
amphetamines, opioids
are the main ones. you buy anything even bordering that and cops will be on you guarenteed.

either the company dobs you in or the postal service will.

the thing is, police watch major outlets from which drugs are likely to come through, even within a country.
posting a unmarked brown package from a house with no registered business number to another house is okay.

but if you posting from a business that specializes in selling pharmaceuticals, its a bit more likely they'll catch on, given that they'll probably be watching for buzzword substances, i.e. amphetamine derivatives, hallucinogenics (lysergic acid) etc,


no, because as i said, it depends. and i do not know of any websites because i dont do this sort of legally grey stuff.

They do have a business number, it is in the email I received.
And 4-FMP is unscheduled here in The Netherlands, so I stil have my hopes up hehehe

It would be fking awesome if I received it tho

if its unscheduled then you should legally be fine.

might have trouble explaining why you want to use it though.
possession and use are two different things legally.

over here in australia, the government has pretty much banned most drug classes adjacent to most pharmaceuticals.

its easier to just turn up to a doctor and get proper drugs than waste time on dodgy websites.

I use 4-FMP every weekend, its like MDMA but you get energy from it, so thats why

No one has any experience? Bumpppp