What was his goddamn problem?

What was his goddamn problem?

Watch the movie, retard.

That he's a Nazi hero but his french love is a jew

Hunt was better looking and a better driver.

he didn't win the Grand Prix against Ron Howard or help his gay lover win that Michelin star

>muh family died bawwww

Worst part of the movie. He also ended the movie like a little bitch. Also the

>getting caught was a part of my plan even though I tried to kill myself

Didn't wear a pink sock over his head.

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But Zemo's entire character is
>muh family
even in the comics.

>le ebin social hacker

Literally Mr. Roboto of the MCU...

>>getting caught was a part of my plan
it wasn't though

>Be part of a kill squad, slaughtering children and women.
>reeeeeeeeeeeee avengers killed my family

Why did Captain Rogers get mad when Emo said he had a bit of green in his blue eyes?

nutzis

Because he thought that Zemo was hitting on him and he is only gay for Bucky.

because he thought he had 100% blue

That means he wasn't 100% pure Aryan

MUH FAMILY

They blew up his sword and purple mask

He would rather of had Ultron cause a global extinction than the Avengers stopping him and causing just the death of his family.

Am i getting this right?

It's his father's fault for thinking they would be secure being near the city.

Well, he was mad you aren't watching Civil War with your Sup Forums brethren

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That things are perfect when seen from far away but when he finally got to see him upclose he realized he wasn't as much as legend made him out to be.

Aryans ABSOLUTELY had green eyes too, Celts were definitely part of the aryan description, which meant pale skin/red hair/blonde hair/green eyes/blue eyes.

What was the point of that black woman at the start taling shit about her son that died? Was he the Black Panther?

I'll Aryan his description.

He a good boy

To make Tony suddenly feel bad about saving thousands.

I still think it's funny how a normal, unaugmented human managed to fuck up and destabilize the Avengers even more than any of the massively powerful central villains in the movie series so far, including Loki. That's doing more with less right there.

Except Bucky broke up the Avengers.
Zemo just got unfathomably lucky, and got to say "you guys, look what Bucky did and Steve knew about and never told you lol".

Bucky didn't break up the Avengers, he was the catalyst that Zemo controlled and manipulated, literally, to instigate the civil war in the first place. Luck had nothing to do with it, he knew and planned it all since the beginning.

He isnt saying that the Avengers shouldnt of stopped Ultron. Tony made him. It was his fault his family died. So it was plain and simple revenge.

>Luck had nothing to do with it
Oh my God, just fucking watch the movie at least once, you fag.

To show that it is Tony's fault her son died. He made Ultron fuckboi. People keep forgetting that these people arent saying that the Avengers saving them is a bad thing, but that even their own actions have cataclysmic results.

When he was with Bucky...
Why not talk with him and insert the trigger words in every sentence to make it look like Barnes is just crazy?

He's right though. He wasn't lucky, just clever and patient.

His entire plan hinged on the tension from the accords, which was out of his hands.
It hinged on the Hydra soldier to have kept all his files after Hydra fell, out of his hands.
It hinged on Bucky not only being near where Zemo set him up, but also on him not being in hiding nor giving himself up to his best friend after being framed, out of his hands.
It hinged on Bucky not being killed by Ross, out of his hands, nor Black Panther, out of his hands.
It hinged on Cap's team being victorious over Tony's team, or at the very least not helped by Black Widow at the last possible second/Rhodey's fall, out of his hands.
It hinged on there being visual evidence of the one event he THINKS might spark a fight between 2 Avengers, out of his hands.
It hinged on specifically only Steve, Bucky and Tony to be at the Hydra base, out of his hands.

The entire thing was mostly out of his hands.

>ginger
>Aryan masterrace

fuck off potatonigger

Sorry that you're mad, but it was part of Hitler's Aryan description.

He was too cute :3

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Trigger words were in Russian

It would be very suspicious if he started talking to Bucky in Russian

I just did, numbnuts. He knew Cap and Iron Man were going to show up at the end and used it to his advantage, just like he did with every other ploy he set in motion. You're fucking stupid.

So, you're saying
But this isnt true?

Think you meant

Nobody outside the Avengers know that Tony and Banner created Ultron

he wanted to go to the other side of germany

If you go in that thread you'll see holes getting poked in everyone's logic and only leading us to vague conclusions. At this point it's just best to say Zemo masterminded everything because that's clearly what the script is telling us.

he wanted to go to the other side of Germany

>If you go in that thread you'll see holes getting poked in everyone's logic and only leading us to vague conclusions
Every counterpoint is a fucking guess at best, most of the arguments still stand.
For fuck's sake, the 3 main elements of his plan were based on luck.
>Bucky being arrested instead of killed
>There is surviving visual evidence of the one event that will drive the Avengers apart, and only because they haven't communicated about the event
>The Avengers already distrust/dislike/fight eachother due to the accords
That's fucking luck, right there, not a plan.

>His entire plan hinged on the tension from the accords, which was out of his hands.

That something that was happening as he developed his plan, which he implemented into it. He could have just as well bombed many other events/locations/people to frame Bucky and draw him out.

>It hinged on the Hydra soldier to have kept all his files after Hydra fell, out of his hands.
I would say it hinged more on him being able to capture Bucky which seems more difficult. Like he said the information about Hydra was already there he just wanted a better explanation, for exposition purposes to the audience.

>It hinged on Bucky not only being near where Zemo set him up, but also on him not being in hiding nor giving himself up to his best friend after being framed, out of his hands.

Bucky was in hiding because he could be >triggered. It didn't really hinge on Bucky being close by, no matter what happened Bucky would be brought to him because the crime happened in his jurisdiction. Short of Bucky being in North Korea he would have been brought in because the UN was bombed, so any UN member country would have turned him over upon capture. Bucky would eventually be captured, it would be impossible for fucking Iron Man, Wakanda and the UN not to find him.

>It hinged on Bucky not being killed by Ross, out of his hands, nor Black Panther, out of his hands.
>Shoot on sight vs kill on sight
>Implying you Ross can just kill him
>Implying that would somehow stop the rest of the plan
>Implying Zemo did not have a consistency plan, like using any other of the 5 winter soldiers if Bucky died.

Bucky is bilingual.

>It hinged on Cap's team being victorious over Tony's team, or at the very least not helped by Black Widow at the last possible second/Rhodey's fall, out of his hands.

If Tony's team was victorious over Cap's he achieves his ultimate goal, that would be even better for him. Half the team is arrested, the rest is controlled by the government, nobody who isn't labelled a criminal is aware of the existence of Zemo. The Avengers are no more.

>It hinged on there being visual evidence of the one event he THINKS might spark a fight between 2 Avengers, out of his hands.
>It is impossible for him to see a security camera anywhere you guys.

>It hinged on specifically only Steve, Bucky and Tony to be at the Hydra base, out of his hands.
Not really, either way he gets the truth out which will spilt up the group unless Tony isn't there and everybody covers it up and Tony never finds out. Not to mention that by this point the airport fight already happened, WM is a cripple and Cap's team is arrested.

>The entire thing was mostly out of his hands.
Sure man or you could just interpreted as he had a general guideline with certain contingencies depending on what could or would most likely happen. Really the biggest flaw in his plan is that if Cap's team wins then there is no real finale and he just dies/gets arrested, and Tony never finds out. A quick way out of that is posting the security video on youtube or mailing a copy to stark industries.

>That something that was happening as he developed his plan, which he implemented into it.
His plan was put in motion long before that. He built a bomb/EMP with the purpose of freeing Bucky. The accords were recent, that can't have been.

>He could have just as well bombed many other events/locations/people to frame Bucky and draw him out.
That's fucking irrelevant to the accords and built tension within the Avengers, useless to bring up.

>I would say it hinged more on him being able to capture Bucky which seems more difficult.
No, he still needed the fucking phrases the Hydra agent was guarding, else Bucky was a dead end as well.

>Like he said the information about Hydra was already there he just wanted a better explanation
No, he needed visual proof and the red book of phrases. That's why he was there.

>Shoot on sight vs kill on sight
>Shoot on sight vs kill on sight
Ross fucking stated out loud that the plan was to kill him.

>Implying that would somehow stop the rest of the plan
>Implying Zemo did not have a consistency plan, like using any other of the 5 winter soldiers if Bucky died.
Yes, it hinged on that, because the only reason the Avengers fell apart is because Tony had rage towards BUCKY and Steve had to defend BUCKY. The fact that all 3 of them were there was the ONLY reason they fell apart.

>If Tony's team was victorious over Cap's he achieves his ultimate goal, that would be even better for him. Half the team is arrested, the rest is controlled by the government, nobody who isn't labelled a criminal is aware of the existence of Zemo. The Avengers are no more.
Speculation, bur regardless, NOT ZEMO'S PLAN. His goal, maybe, but not his plan, so irrelevant.

>It is impossible for him to see a security camera anywhere you guys.
The camera Bucky missed during his assassination, saw afterwards and detroyed, yet the footage was found and stored by Hydra. And it survived storage in the 25 year old bunker. That's the point.

>Not really, either way he gets the truth out which will spilt up the group unless Tony isn't there and everybody covers it up and Tony never finds out.
So, if Tony wasn't there his plan would've failed.
If Bucky wasn't there, Tony wouldn't have lashed out, and Steve had no one to defend, so the plan would've failed.

> Not to mention that by this point the airport fight already happened, WM is a cripple and Cap's team is arrested.
Due to the ACCORDS not ZEMO, so again, not his plan. LUCK.

>Sure man or you could just interpreted as he had a general guideline with certain contingencies depending on what could or would most likely happen
The only reason his plan succeeded was because of the accords, people surviving kill squads, a near fatal accident and people switching sides. None of which he controlled.
Going "oh, maybe he had back-up plans" is not an argument, as that is not only not even stated in the movie, it's irrelevant to how the plan went. It succeeded by luck, and only by luck.