Was anyone else annoyed when Ironman analyzed Cap's fighting movements in like a couple of seconds then started...

Was anyone else annoyed when Ironman analyzed Cap's fighting movements in like a couple of seconds then started beating the shit out of him like nothing?

Ironman is such a Mary Sue it's not even funny, ruined the movie for me desu

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Inronman is literally top tier superstrength, can take bullets and rockets to the face and he is having trouble with some strong martial artist.
If anything cap is the Gary stu

Not really, at full power he can match Thor strength for a few seconds, but that's about it.

He's not as strong as She-Hulk/Thing either

This pretty much. When cap started wrecking Spider-man I almost got up and left the cinema.

Not at all.

In comics, Tony (like any other hero) had been written to be stupidly powerful. Just when you think you know his limits, BAM!, synthetic iron man armor made of the strongest alien material that is a literal part of tonys body.

Forgetting the comics for a moment, the movies do a good job of putting Tony at a disadvantage when not in the armor. When up against Bucky, he got BTFO with a single punch and was out for the rest of that fight.

In the comics, Tony does eventually learn and becomes heavily skilled and competent in hand to hand, making him lethal outside the suit, and even more lethal within. It's briefly teased in IM3 that Tony had been working on hand to hand.

I was fine with him analysing caps moves and letting the suit fight for him because honestly that's the only way we were going to see a decent 1v1 between the 2.

It was the sort of trick that would only last for a brief time, and then Cap would vary himself up. The fight simply ended soon after that. Didn't really care honestly.

Did sort of care though that Cap's power level was greatly jacked up in this movie. Iron Man has only gotten weaker with every flick.

iron man seems like the kind of guy that would have contingency plans built within his suit for rogue avengers or combatants, especially after the sokovia accords. not that surprising considering all weve seen his suits do in these movies

It could have only lasted for a brief while, anyway. Cap would eventually adjust his style. Stark never had a chance.

Now that's what I call autism

it was one of those stupid things where its like "why didn't he just use that from the start"

>not that surprising considering all weve seen his suits do in these movies
His suits suck in these movies. IM 3 literally has like 30 of suits torn to shreds by extremis soldiers in like 2 minutes. I don't imagine the extremis soldiers are much stronger than Bucky and Cap.

Why? Spider-Man is still a kid. Even a fully grown Spider-Man doesn't have Midnighter level precognition.

Cap is supposed to improvise his fights while Tony looks for weaknesses to gain an advantage.

That's something they've been trying to emphasis.

Yeah this

you mean experimental suits he built just to deal with his PTSD and not for any real application? his main mark series has always been top tier, not to mention extremis soldiers have absurd durability, healing, strength, and flame on powers. im honestly not even sure how bucky or cap would kill them outside of decapitating them. that being said, iron man clearly would have mopped the floor with both of them in this movie in a 1v1, bucky and cap just fight well together and took advantage of starks openings.

>I don't imagine the extremis soldiers are much stronger than Bucky and Cap
They're like, 1000 times stronger in the comics.

Plus the suits in IM3 were pieces of shit that Tony built in like a day and forgot about.

>They're like, 1000 times stronger in the comics.
And in the comics the Mandarin isn't an drunk actor.

The comics have nothing to do with the movies.

After watching Civil War I feel like watching some high-energy action, preferably gunfights and urban settings. I've already seen the Jason Bourne movies but maybe something like that? Any recommendations?

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It's only really works temporarily because he gets Cap's shield away from him.

How autistic?

Clearly they were trying to convey that IronMan was intentionally not taking it seriously before.

He could have killed captain when ever he wanted.

Technically, it's the suit's AI that did the analyzing. Tony just took the hits until it finished.

Well we have no objective metric for how strong they are in the movies. Tony is fucked up and his suits are dogshit, and Pepper is the one who ultimately kills Killian. As far as the other two extremis soldiers who die on-screen, cap/bucky would have been killed as well in that situation

Spider-Man was a stupid kid with no experience.

It was only used to analyze his hand to hand. The computer literally says "you can't beat him hand to hand." And that would only be useful for a brief period of time before Cap adjusts accordingly. Sorry, even with his suits, Stark has no chance against Steve.

You're delusional - he could have killed cap at any moment during that fight. He was literally tossing him aside to try and go after Bucky

Spider-man is a "stupid kid" that can benchpress 10 tons, cap didn't stand a chance.

Friday > Jarvis

her voice is pure sex.

But cap ended up beating the fuck out of him

Spidey will obviously be more formidable in the future, he was up against superheroes that have fought robots and aliens. He's only had his power for 6 months fighting street criminals

because tony was trying to incapacitate him rather than kill him, and was focused on bucky. really the movie makes this blatantly fucking obvious. i mean there's literally a scene where tony is flying after bucky while cap smashes his shield into tony's boot, and tony just blows him away and keeps going

With a broken foot. Cap is only really trying to stem Tony until he calms down. When he really wants to hurt Tony, he does. He could have killed Stark, in fact, but didn't.

>Spider-man is a "stupid kid" that can benchpress 10 tons,

Where in the movie do they say this?

Name a moment when Stark could have killed Cap in that scene but didn't. One moment.

It's common Spider-man trivia familia.
He could of unibeamed him pointblank when cap was wailing on him.

>It's common Spider-man trivia familia.

So you have no clue how strong movie spiderman is?

>Did sort of care though that Cap's power level was greatly jacked up in this movie. Iron Man has only gotten weaker with every flick.

Cap is becoming more confident in his position in the world and is thus becoming stronger while Tony has only been giving up more and more of his power and giving in to other people's emotions and ideologies. It is poetic.

comics aren't canon.

>Cap not hearing it charge
>Cap not seeing it charge
>Cap not waiting for the last split second to dodge
Keep trying

When he says "stay down".

the raid 1 & 2, the man from nowhere,dredd

Right after the scene OP is talking about? Tony beats the shit out of him and gives him a warning instead of finishing him off

Tony says how much he can lift during the scene in spideys room

Like Bucky did?

How? It's not the first time someone has knocked Steve down and thought they beat him.

John Wick

>Bucky is Cap
Ok

The difference between Tony and Cap is that Cap is willing to kill Tony while Tony isn't willing to do the same. After Cap bashes Tony's face in and knocks his mask off, all Tony can do is cover his face and hope Cap doesn't kill him.

Same powers

Are you forgetting that ironman has been shooting bullets and rockets out of his suit since iron man 1?

Tony would've killed Cap if he could have. But he couldn't. Cap could've killed Tony. But he didn't.

>mary sue
>loses

fucking memeing fucks

No. What's your point.

It made me wonder why he didn't just do that shit all the time, to everybody.

he literally ignores cap for half the fight. what the fuck is wrong with you?

My point is if he wanted to kill cap he could give the voice command to start aiming his shoulder mounted anti personnel rockets and rifles he used at any time.

Thanks bros

Remember these things? Tony uses them to block Cap's path early on in the fight, instead of just eviscerating him like he could have. Stop with this stupid fucking argument. Cap is strong as fuck in the MCU but iron man is on another level

Spider-Man had been "barely" fighting common criminals for 6 months prior to him facing Captain, Spider-Man wasn't ready to fight someone on Captain's level hand to hand. No matter how strong he is, Captain is a hardened veteran with years of experience dealing with extraordinary individuals and can adapt quickly. Besides, Tony specifically said to him he was there to help subdue and stop Captain from escaping. Nothing about killing him, or hurting him too bad.

Captain and Tony didn't want to kill each other. Tony was trying to get Captain out of the way so he could kill Bucky, and Captain tried to stop him. Throughout the fight Tony's suit gets damaged in several points(his leg repulsors and one of his hands, targeting systems as well got fucked up). Also it seems that Tony is relying more and more on just his repulsors and using one time one missiles when needed.

It was probably more of the rage that he had built up inside that he just wanted to beat the shit out of Bucky and kill him. Honestly I think the setting of the fight and how it was handled with Bucky and Captain fighting Tony was handled very well. It allowed him to get slowly impaired so that he wasn't able to rely on his whole arsenal or attack from afar.

GoldenEye
Casino Royale
Quantum of Solace
Skyfall
Spectre
The Wolverine (2013)
Taken
All of the Mission Impossible films
Kingsmen: The Secret Service
Inception

>he just wanted to beat the shit out of Bucky and kill him.
Well yea. He literally has bucky in his grasp and one point and doesn't rip his head off. Tony isn't a murderer, idk if he would have killed bucky even if cap was taken out of the picture.

>anytime
Well, not after his targeting computer got fucked, so no, not anytime. Name a time prior to that when he could get a shot off with enough space between he and Cap where he wouldn't damage himself, yet not so much that Cap wouldn't easily avoid it.

down, 45 degrees, straight heavy punch for iron man's repulsor blast.

down and heavy kick makes tony shoot a rocket from his boot

he the lost the fight you fucking idiot

See

the shit iron man used in the 2nd iron man movie that he only gets to use 1 time would kill every one on the other side even thor maybe if he was there

i am assuming its per charge that probably takes a while not a 1 time in his life since he knew what it would do and probably had used it inbetween movies

what the fuck is going on here

Yeah, Tony wanted to kill Winter Soldier but just disable Cap. If he had wanted to kill both of them he could have done it, and done it very quickly.

well, it's pretty obvious you're trolling. i don't know why you can't accept that they're not on the same level

he uses them in the civil war fight though. but instead of chopping cap in half he uses them to block him off.

Not that super laser, the one he shoots at the ceiling to trap Cap.

Cap will always be +1 on Spidey, just deal with it

He's vaulting over a car.

>Martha! MARTHA!
>HA! Fuck off DCucks
>Shield! SHIELD!
>Bravo Didney 10/10 give me more nigger cocks to suck

Fuck off reddit letter media.

>what is Cap's shield
Look, I'm sorry your boy Tony was exposed as an overrated hype machine. I'm sorry you IM fanboys are assblasted by this movie. Maybe you've been wrong you're whole life. Now's a good time to reevaluate things.

Bucky broke the thing, didn't either of you two watch the show?

That's the same super laser.

arguing about which comic book character won the fight is retarded

Still no answer. Maybe it's because you IM fanboys are incapable of analyzing or appreciating fight styles and martial arts? It's all just muh rockets with you children.

you're retarded

I just find it hard to believe that IM would go so ballistic. He's a smart guy and he is in a world where mind control exists.

About the whole IM vs CA thing, they both have to hold back.

Shut up, you silly bitch, its only a bit of fun.

Yeah, ultimately it was just a fit of rage that Tony had. We got shown in Iron Man 2, and a little bit in Civil War how he still hasn't handled well his parents dying. How he never got closure with them and he just buried it inside. Once he got someone to blame, and a way to get closure he took it. He would have probably punched Bucky's face till he realized "What the fuck am I doing?" and then stopped.

The real damage was done though, which was Zemo's plan of destroying the Avengers and creating a rift between Iron Man and Captain America. Obviously this had far more reaching consequences in the fact that every Avenger now is in hiding and criminals.

This makes me believe that Infinity War Pt. 1 will have Thanos coming to Earth to get the Mind Gem and just wreck shit, and leave with the Avengers reuniting but its too late and losing.

What part of Iron Man isn't trying to kill Captain don't you understand?, if you were arguing about why didn't Iron Man shoot a laser to Bucky's chest when he first grabbed him then you would be on to something.

He's talking about the second time where Bucky gets his armed ripped off by the repulsor blast.

>What part of Iron Man isn't trying to kill Captain don't you understand
yea we all get that fucktard, except one guy trying to argue that he couldn't kill cap even if he wanted to

>I'm not gonna kill you
>I'm just gonna smash the reactor powering your heart
>Hope it doesn't explode

guess you skipped IM3?

Never ever watch Raid 12, because you'll never enjoy an action movie in your life ever again

Did I miss a movie? Where did the Vision come from? Apparently he's Jarvis?

I'm so confus

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He was fighting an inexperience Spider-Man who didn't even utilize his abilities to their fullest, you bellend

In this fight, in that environment, in that frame of mind, he couldn't. Yes, I'm saying that and still not one of you IM fanboys has shown a moment when he could.

Oooh weee, who else is excited for the Avengers 3, Thanos sure is a big bad guy, hmm-huhmmm

Oooh wee, hope there will be lots of explosions, oooooh weeee, hope I can drive War machine again, oooh wee!

You mean just before he lost? Yeah I remember that.

...what about that time when captain america was on the ground in defeat, and iron man warned him not to get up?

are you retarded?

Who else liked young Spiderman, but thought he didnt belong?

He was way too cartoony when he was fighting Bucky and the Flying Job, it was jarring

But it would be cool to see his own movie, with none of the serious UN MCU crap, like directed by Sam Reimi's reanimated corpse

He literally has him at his mercy before he turns his attention towards Bucky. You're a fucking retard man

How is this "kill shot" going to go down? Keep in mind, Cap has his shield at this point. Go ahead. Think it through.

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Iron Man lost the fight you fucking retard. How is that a mary sue? Jesus christ, I wish Star Wars 7 never happened just so people would stop abusing this term.

Honestly I forgot everything about IM3 apart from Ben Kingsley

He still lost.

Suit was incredibly damaged and not trying to kill his friend. Or ex friend I guess.