How do we save the humanities Sup Forums?

How do we save the humanities Sup Forums?

Especially when they are under constant barrage from stoners and STEMlords

humanities?
This is obviously about philosophy
Humanities includes history. This is not under barrage by STEMlords

Very simple

>Trump becomes President
>Liberals go maximum butthurt and flee to Canada
>Less welfare burden, less diversity, more social cohesion, more tax dollars that can be spent of better things
>Canada becomes a horrible socialist wasteland
>???
>BUILD ANOTHER WALL

To be honest, I regret not going STEM. But then again, I didn't know what STEM was until my senior year in Uni, which I'm currently still in. 1 Semester away from finishing, and I'm seriously regretting not being smart enough for Comp Sci, Engineering, or even Astronomy. What's even worse, is that I have a real interest in these things now that I know they exist.

Help me, Sup Forums.

You meme philosophy? We don't. It's an outdated "science". Might as well save Alchemy while we are at it.

stfu SJW faggot

Epic pic.

Added to my arsenal to barrage STEMfags.

>cultural anthropology major reporting

Why is that little homo bill nye in the same page as truly significant men of science?

How do you sleep at night, knowing life will be more difficult with such a degree? I'm a Political Science major, and I regret every minute of it. But, it's too late for me to change majors now, as doing so would not only put me back ~3 years, but I'd have to do a SAP appeal every semester to get access to financial aid.

We don't need that fags..
We need more Jesus, Mother Teresa, Ghandi, Rip Hamilton, Mandela, Luther King

>We should remove deeper thinking because it's outdated
Do you consider yourself a professional atheist?
Or are you one of those guys who are above-average in intelligence with little or nothing to show for it?

You assume that scientists that study really important things like physics cannot comprehend your entire program in an afternoon.

>important things
>like physics
I have more respect for the guys finding better ways for us to live our lives, grow food better and more efficiently and accomplish our tasks better, not some nerdy faggot who make calculations about stars who light is so old their planet may have been taken over and destroyed by Space Jews 10,000 years ago and we wouldn't know it.

And you wouldn't know if they were full of shit or not.

Enjoy your career at pizza hut

>implying neil "smokin de grassi" tyson is a first rate scientist

Sure I'll give you that one. They should both gtfo

A guy at Pizza Hut has done more for you and me than Stephan Hawking ever did for anybody anywhere.

Shit bait, faggot

You really are dense aren't you. Without physics you would not be having this discussion on an electronic device over the internet. You owe everything that makes up the technolgy you use every day to physics. Maybe you're pizza hut management material but that's about it.

Anti-STEM meme thread?

Objectively true. What has Stephen Hawking done that's had any practical application? Name one thing.

Yes

It's only because you are too retarded to see the big picture. Understanding the universe and fundamental forces leads to discoveries that change mankind. This has to be bait right? Nobody is this stupid.

friendly suggestion, everyone should go to a philosophy lecture at least once, theyre really cool

Agreed

So Stephan Hawking invented the computer? Because I thought other people worked on those. And besides, people existed without computers for millenia, just because you can't imagine a world without shit like Sup Forums for people like you and me to waste our time on doesn't mean physics has been more important than growing better, healthier food and developing better healthcare, parts of science that actually does shit for people.

You don't sound like you're science material either, guess you're going to have to get a real job now like everybody else who isn't a waste.

>bigger picture
Because looking at million year old lights from ancient stars and making calculated guesses at them is more important than any other field of science. Please tell me how those stars and planets we will never ever reach are more important than learning about OUR OWN PLANET.

So there isn't anything.

Saving the humanities is simple.

Just convince everyone that being poor is great and communism provides everything you'll ever need.

Chaos theory might help with humanities

>cultural anthropology major
it's shitheads like you that run up taxes with worthless government jobs and then complain that you don't make enough. I took a cultural anthropology class for gen eds and it was the most asinine drivel I've ever had the misfortune to sit through. It was like tumblr university. The fact that people like you have the audacity to even continue existing is beyond my comprehension

My pleasure!

Just because you don't get it doesn't mean it's bullshit. It's the sum total of man's effort over time that leads to practicality. A discovery today may be meaningless until it's usefulness becomes apparent only years or decades later, does that make the pursuit of that initial discovery useless? Of course not. Don't worry user, all you'll need to know is how to count the tills and take z readings and close up the restaurant and make sure there is enough dough for tomorrow's pizzas. Leave the really hard stuff to others so you don't hurt that little melon of yours.

guys, all fields of study are important in their own way tho

Stay butt hurt codemonkey. Don't you have some autistic robot language you should be memorizing

Even pizza hut management school

I was a political science major.

Biggest mistake I ever made.

Once I realized it was completely useless, I stopped going to class and taught myself how to code and design.

I'm very successful now, and it's thanks to those self-taught skills.

BTW, I'm 35 years old and NO ONE has ever asked to see my resume.

Employers only care about results.

As a hiring manager, I have no use for humanities majors. If I do hire one, it's because I need an assistant and I start them off at $16/hr to see if they are actually capable of creating any measurable results.

Thats not humanities, thats feminism you dumbfuck.

>says the stoner dropout Bernie boi YouTube documentary scholar

These have to be jokes... right?

>women's studies
>anthropology
>foreign language degrees (just move there, faggot)
>any racial studies
>elementary education (hurr durr I need four years to learn to teach the alphabet)
>sociology
>psychology unless you intend to get a phd
>sports business
>interior design
all worthless things to study in college

Didn't you see the European cut of Demolition Man? In the future all restaurants are Pizza Hut.

Look guys, this is getting way out of hand.

You are discussing shit that doesn't concern you nor affects you directly.

What is the importance of science or humanities as a whole? Why are we here if there is no God?

You see, science got us way beyond where we needed to be as a society. The perfect example of this whole mess is the Atomic Bomb. Everybody had always knew how to make one, the process to make it reality was the real problem to be solved.

We were at war and killing each other mercilessly. Without going into much details and please avoid replying with idiocy, USA wasn' the first to succeed in making the bomb, but were the first in having the guts to use it.

After flooring Japan's cities, everyone around the globe got a pretty cruel message for the first time. 'Science went too far', and our eventual demise by the hands of the most beloved tool we ever relied on was the only possible outcome if we didn't put a halt to all of it.

You see, because of humanities Russia refuses going to war and USA has no desire in being the starter of WW3. We've come so far with science that it's 99% sure the next great war will be the last.

I don't care what you feel about life and the society as a whole, but ending it like that is not the best way to go off.

jeez, im a chemical engineer man

they wouldnt be fields if they werent important tho

>2016 and still using ti-85
gtfo high school faggot

>women's studies degree
>humanities department and counts for humanities/social science requirement
>feminism came from humanist ideas

I'm pretty sure that women's studies if feminism.

Political science is like, i dunno, studying a lot of old philiosophy, laws, ethics and learning how governments work.

Oh wait fuck nevermind, that's totally feminism my bad.

fucking moron.

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Physcology is great bitch. Gettin payed crazy money to listen to people bitch about nonsense. We do that for free vry day on facebook.

>Implying Feminism didnt take over the original humanities
>Implying Colleges dont teach feminist brainwashee humanities

boy you sure are stupid

the only reason they're fields is to milk more tuition money from students who are in college and have no clue what they want to do for a living or are too lazy to challenge themselves. There are good degrees outside of stem but there are even more worthless ones

ITT, 14 year olds don't know what philosophy is, and was, and the difference.
Once philosophy was the analysis and study of things not physical. Conversations about ethics and human nature. Once upon a time, science and philosophy was it.
Now, science is broken down into a million different sub-sects, and so is philosophy. In essence, Psych, politics, sociology, are all philosophy. NOW, when people talk about philosophy they're talking about assholes sitting around sniffing their own farts asking each other why they're even talking to each at all, then sniffing their own farts some more.
Philosophy isn't dead, it's been refined into more useful focuses.
Anyone who declares themselves as a philosopher now adays is likely a charleton, an idiot who analyses benign things to impress the layman and actually contributing nothing.

Don't blame that on science, that was the US military. Nobody actually thought they would really use it, it was more about sabre rattling. But those fuckers dropped them anyway.

If you get a phd. Bachelor's in psych has the highest unemployment, or at least it did a few years ago

>Politcal science is humanities

Holy fuck youre just as dumb as the other user

fair enough

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If feminists took over it it must have been easy enough for them to get through en mass. I'd like to see them take over physics or engineering

Yeah they're for dumb people to feel better about themselves.

>Just because you don't get it doesn't mean it's bullshit.
And just because you don't understand there is more to life than making calculations about shit millions of miles away doesn't make it useful to anyone.

>weak ad hominims and strawmen arguments
You sound like your feelings are hurt, and you STILL can't explain any of the good staring into a telescope at dots of light so old that if you could see earth from there, you would see Dinosaurs. Who really cares if a planet that *MAY OR MAY NOT* sustain human life is 1.1 or 1.2 billion miles away, you're never ever going to reach it.

And you can't give me a legit answer why -THEORETICAL- (aka not a proven fact and possibly incorrect) physics and astral-science is more important than science that helps us to grow food and find better ways to living, like those computers you mentioned, but we invented them by working on better information technology, not by staring into telescopes.

But again, it looks like the only thing you have to go on is educated guessing at things that don't matter and making weak strawmen arguments at anyone who disagrees. Let's see you do it yourself when your toilet backs up and you need to call a "stupid" plumber. Or hey, go fix that broken bone on your own, don't let a silly EMT who doesn't know how far away STAR SYSTEM 547 is.

>mfw when all the people on the left are german and all the people on the right are 'murricans.

Wrong side lost WW1 is all I'm saying

ok i guess, thanks for taking the time to type out your own thoughts and not someone else's

Bohr was Danish but I do agree with you

>So Stephan Hawking invented the computer
Yeah, he didn't

>you're never ever going to reach it
Our descendants might. If people get their heads out their assholes and realize the great mistake making conflicts between outselves is.

Thats the point, due to fucking feminism anything that is art is something that cant be fucking "explained" because its just fucking art yet hobbies such as Music or Threatre actually required some sort of intelligence and mathematics. Anyone who says Art is just Art is a fucking moron. No feminist brainwashed subjects will ever produce some of the finest pieces of William Shakespere or hell, fucking quote Hamlet and your professor thinks youre a goddamn genius. Even The Bible is one of the finest writings in human history and a fine exampe of the humanities. Feminists can only dream to produce such work.

Any more STEM memes?

I'm not the user you're arguing with but here's my 2 cents:
Theoretical science is important because it's the applied science science of the future. Math is a classic example, calculus was purely theoretical when Newton and Leibniz proposed it but a few centuries later we use it for everything from computers to modeling fluid dynamics and quantitative biochemistry which does help us grow better food. Just because it's not immediately useful doesn't mean people won't need to know it someday. Society improves when old men plant trees whose shade they will never sit in

>How do we save the humanities Sup Forums?

Destroy the universities. Decentralize scholarship and support independent communities of inquiry. Careerism, behind-the-scenes government and business involvement in universities, and inducing competition for an ever-decreasing number of prestigious positions through the academic equivalent of click-bait has done incalculable harm to the humanities. Just get rid of the corrupted universities and return to the Baconian vision of scholarship.

da fuck you just say?

Read Derrida

It's the MSWs who do that nowadays psychoanalysis isn't what it used to be

So basically you're attacking cosmologists and astronomers? I think you don't have any grasp of the scope of the natural sciences. Certainly that EMT will not be able to do shit without the full historical weight of the natural science that came before his practical training. You realize we write things down so the next generation can pick up where the previous one left of right? Or do you think that something is important only if it takes less than one lifetime to figure out? Damn this is a waste of time isn't it. It's like arguing with a 5 year old.

samefag

Newton: we stand on the shoulders of men that came before us

That was my point, user ...

>billions of lightyears away
>reachable
Now see, why do you say these things when you know that it's not possible?

>inb4 Wormholes
There's no guarantee one can even form in the REAL, PHYSICAL WORLD. Other than that, there is simply no way to move to somewhere else millions of LIGHTYEARS away

And there won't BE any people to send to another world if we die of starvation, greed and poor management. How about you focus on THIS planet before you go trying to ruin one a nearly incomprehensible distance away that, again, due to the distance, might not even exist at this point because of some anomaly or something that happened so long ago but we won't know it happened for another 400,000 years?

Now see? This is someone logical, not immediately reverting to insults the moment something is questioned. The user above you could learn something from you.

Not

Question to the butthurt faggots; Why so butthurt with Dicking and the "Useless" sciences?

Now, don't get me wrong. I'm engineer and all that jazz, but I don't go around bashing my head with the floor because I can't see the value of "Liberal" Arts. Like, normal art wasn' enough for everyone or something.

Without psychis explanations on some things the previous engineers wouldn't had been able to make all they did. And without the questioning of reason we would be firing nukes at each other since decades ago.

Summertime

>guy starts thread saying humanities is better
>engineers say no humanities is useless
>z0mg why so butthurt with le useless meme engineers?

boom

>not immediately reverting to insults
I'm very insulted so you are wrong.

Waste of perfectly good dubs. For shame

Not completely agaisnt that.

But the main problem with that wasn't that some assholes made fraud with stolen names and constantly flee after fucking shit up because they couldn't design for shit?

no, there are people in this thread that aren't idiots.

user, have you been smoking drugs?

you have to be dense to think that traveling billions of light years is impossible.

This

The humanities, or those who represent them and take it upon themselves to continue them, shat on themselves so much that no one can take them seriously.

All philosophical and literary thinking ends in some obtuse, tautological spiral which does absolutely jack shit for anyone or anything, even the people perpetrating it. Some of them commit suicide, some of them drop it all and get jobs and lead normal lives, some of them realize they have bills to pay so they become authors and teachers and spread their disease for a dollar.

That's not to say that certain fields are objectively better than others. Engineering has given us the technology that we enjoy every day. Physics and Astronomy yield insights into the nature of the universe. Medicine keeps people fucking breathing.

The liberal arts don't give us more food, better tech, or longer lives. I would argue that, at best, they fill the space between the hard sciences, and without them, life would be less worth living. At worst, however, you have the circlejerk that is women's studies, you have the MBA, and you have the inflation of college degrees to the point that not having one will doom a person to mediocre jobs for the rest of their lives.

Took it personal? Because we're discussing some bullshit matter in a cespool on the internet that will eventually cease to exist?

Either way, you hit the nail straight in the head on that one. Conflict is part of our nature, so much as peace and love.

We could leave niggers to starve to death in Africa, we could nuke the cespool in the middle of the shithole that is middle east, we could make so many horrible things to each other. Yet, at the same time, we can make glorious and wondergful things for which are needed both science and humanities.

And what are you doing with all this brilliant knowledge that poor scum like me cannot understand? Oh, that;'s right, you're posting on Sup Forums. :^)

You still can't tell me what Stephan Hawking and Neil Degrasse Tyson have done for our lives, except "maybe looking at ancient star light will one day be super important", which is highly reminiscent of "God works in mysterious ways".

And if you want cheap insults to be thrown around, Maybe one day you'll find a woman who thinks self-absorbed science nerds are attractive, too.

OP here. I never said humanities were better (I would never use such an empty phrase). I'm tired of STEM "scholars" interjecting into and deeming useless fields in which they have no authority. Science simply lacks the breadth to answer the questions the humanities asks. That's not to say science does t have it's place.

>>gets a shitty arts education.
>>first instinct is to make arts to laugh at people with more valuable science educations.
>>Posts arts on the marvel of science and engineering that is the internet.

>All philosophical and literary thinking ends in some obtuse, tautological spiral which does absolutely jack shit for anyone or anything, even the people perpetrating it.

No, that's not the problem - it's not inherent in these fields of inquiry. The problem is that to have a CAREER as a humanities scholar you have to constantly publish the trendiest crap possible. The deplorable state of the humanities is caused by trying to convert the university into a knowledge factory. It just doesn't work well that way.

>The liberal arts don't give us more food, better tech, or longer lives.

And this thinking is exactly why the university has devolved into a corporatized, least publishable unit factory. It seems that in your conception of society, anything that does not fulfill our most basic, material needs is of dubious value at best. But it is the process of inquiry into the human condition that allows us to conceive of a world that is more than just mindless consuming and breeding. You argue against the need for the very thing that our society lacks most sorely.

meant to link second quote here

Then, why do we need english and many other languages?

Why use punctuations, stupid signals and made up rules about expressing myself if all of it is worthless?

Another straight to the head... I do wonder myself if the degrees inflation was due to teachers being niggers and asking for more handouts or if it's because the whole schoolar system might be another jew scheme.

well, they are minor scientist, we still got hawking

interesting. So you think philosophy has been distributed into the social sciences (for lack of a better term)?

What about metaphysics? I always considered this to be the only 'field of philosophy' worth the auspicious title, having never been able to fit it in with any of the other pursuits, but everything I do in the social sphere tends to bring me back to the study of metaphysics

He invented black holes you dumbass

Arguing that the point of human existence is comfort, hedonism, and survival.

A bleak world indeed, necessary though it seems.