FAQs: >How do I into classical? Browse the folders linked below. It's easier for us to then rec you stuff if you have an idea of what you already like. >I'm ~20 years old and I want to become a concert soloist. If I practice really hard, will I make it? Almost certainly not. However you can still become a very accomplished performer with enough practice and if it makes you happy, then go for it. >Do I need to know music theory to listen to classical music? No, but it won't harm your listening experience if you do.
24/7 stream of ballet, opera, symphonies, and performance art stuff
good shit
Christian Walker
Sub-edition: Added a few FAQs to the pasta. I may have a go at turning the Debussy chart into an actual chart (as in: what to listen to next) but if someone who knows Debussy better than I do wants to do that, please go ahead. It might also be worth creating another folder of /classical/ related reading.
The Rite of Spring is my absolute jam, what would you reccomend (besides other works from Stravinsky)?
Parker Gomez
never listened to that particular recording but i do enjoy his Operas. L'italiana in Algeri is one of my faves actually. Isn't The Barber of Seville supposed to be funny?
Jonathan Lee
Yeah, I've been listening to more Donizetti/Bellini recently, but I should probably listen to a bit more Rossini. I think I tired myself out on bel canto opera because I spent about 2 years singing far too much of it. Almost all Rossini operas that get performed are today are comedic in some aspect. Oedipus Rex is good but not so much like the Rite. If you liked the Rite, you're probably best off checking out his other two ballets from the period: Firebird and Petrushka. You might like Les Noces too.
Too many to choose just one.Of the "famous" ones, probably Der hirt auf dem felsen, Erlkonig, Im fruhling, Auf der bruck. And that's saying nothing of the full cycles (although the concluding pieces of Winterreise and Schwanengesang particularly stand out)
>Der Kreuzzug >Du liebst mich nicht >Die Allmacht >Lied des gefangenen jagers >Drei gesange D.902
Jeremiah Roberts
>24
based
Cameron Taylor
And the second-last last in Schwanengesang is incredible too. I really need to work on my German so I can fully commit to singing Schubert.
Brayden Scott
Right, I've not watched Parsifal in a long time. Going to buy a bottle of wine and settle in for the evening.
Lincoln Campbell
Got my wine and am now being reminded that the introduction to Parsifal includes some of the best music Wagner wrote.
Eli Hernandez
ded ded ded requiem for /classical/
Aaron Flores
>tfw Chopin wrote only 2 Piano Concertos
ffs
Alexander Nguyen
>tfw Puccini composed all those masterpieces
Who here is /failedcomposer/?
Alexander Bailey
>Puccini >masterpieces Pick one.
Michael Myers
can you recommend me something similar to this, I am not really into classical music
If only he had survived to finish Turandot so we weren't saddled with that shitty completion featuring the Nessun Dorma theme as a chorus. I mean there's a lot wrong with the completion besides that, but fuck it's just awful.
Just because he's popular doesn't mean you have to shit on him. He dominates the verismo style like no other composer really manages (even if I have a soft spot for Chenier)
Logan Robinson
wagner
Sebastian Scott
wertyuiop
Dominic Baker
Name 1 (ONE) recording with an Asian player that's actually good
James Hughes
aki takahashi is a really gifted pianist, i mean, if you're into that sort of thing
Gavin Jones
Could someone rec me a good starting point for Chopin? I dled that Pollini compilation with etudes, preludes and polonaises, but it just doesn't work for me.
Austin Wood
>Lieder and art song edition. nice. what are your favorite vocal albums, /classical/?
Caleb Allen
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Luke Cook
Wunderlich's last concert That Hotter Testament lieder recital with Moore (although Moore isn't as crisp in the - admittedly challenging - final section of Odins Meeresritt as I'd like). There's also that really nice Schwanengesang on EMI with Hotter/Moore Britten canticles+folksong arrangements sung by Bostridge, Daniels and Maltman (mostly for Maltman who does that stuff so well) Terfel's The Vagabond (mostly for his rendition of The Lads in their Hundreds which he delivers at a whisper.) Whilst he doesn't have the same sort of easy baritone-tone that you've got in Roderick Williams or Maltman, it's still very effective There's also a nice recording I've got of Schumann's op. 138 Spanische Liebeslider, but the lineup isn't particularly glitzy.
I've realised that I don't really listen to many female interpretations of lieder. I know the names and have listened to them previously, but they don't seem to have made their way into my library.
Tangentially, I don't particularly understand the hype for Chaliaplin. All the recordings I've heard of him have him singing with a "horizontal" wobble (difficult to explain, but it's the "bad" sort of vibrato in my books) and it just sounds awful. I wonder if it's the fault of the recording technology.
Ryder Richardson
winter > autumn > summer > spring
Jose Mitchell
In life? Or are you making a statement about Vivaldi?
Alexander Rodriguez
Summer>spring=winter>autumn Pleb
Brody Sullivan
Beethoven's String Quartets by Tokyo String Quartet.
Checkmate
Gavin Williams
We need to create a registry for Mozart posters. They need to be marked and quarantined.
Henry James
>tfw cause of Clara Schumann now all concertist pianists are required to play without a score
I hope she is burning in hell.
Kevin Thompson
this is the worst general on Sup Forums
Samuel Bennett
worst post in the best general on Sup Forums
Dylan Carter
Who's more important, a composer or an arranger?
Levi Miller
Did you think about this question at all before typing it out?
Jaxson James
The composer, since the arranger's job is not to spoil the original idea while still proposing it in a original way.
Nathaniel Martin
Chopin's Piano Concerto n. 2 is the best piano concerto ever written. Debate me.
Josiah Roberts
Chopin's orchestration is almost as awful as Schumann's.
Asher Martinez
There are literally dozens of better concerti
Josiah Wright
so I'm going to my first classical live performance in march
dumb to ask, but is there an informal dress code of some kind? it almost feels like a suit would be appropriate, but probably that's autistic of me
Jonathan Fisher
There's basically no dress code for classical concerts (anymore) so go in whatever you feel like. Smart casual is advisable, but it's not obligatory.
Caleb Gonzalez
Slacks and a nice casual button up shirt usually works
Jonathan Martin
a fedora is necessary
Zachary Turner
thanks
Dylan Nguyen
Didn't Richter use scores? I assumed it's just because people practice so much.
Noah Gray
No, it's just a showing off thing. Clara Schumann started it and since then people have to do it to avoid looking like an amateur.
Is it worth it, /classical/, to run away with her? To forsake everything that I have and am? To climb a mountain path of certain death in order to satisfy my incessant ennui?
Sebastian Carter
Autumn > Winter > Summer > Spring
t. patrish
Nolan Young
/classical/ do you ever listen to percussion ensembles?
Blake Reyes
only the good ones
Jayden Russell
I listened to something by Reich once and regretted it. Stockhausen is entertaining.
Are there virtuoso percussionists in the classical world really? They have to learn a large variety of instruments but they're all easy except for triangle.
Nicholas Campbell
>they're all easy
I can't tell if you're joking or not
David Bennett
Just listened to this today, it was actually fantastic, one of the better recordings of her music I've heard
Jeremiah Rogers
You guys like Nexus? I really like Bob Becker in general
they are though. percussion sounds like shit, you don't have to practice to make it sound beautiful like you do with a violin because it never will.
Brody Bell
The impression I get is they spend an inordinate amount of time learning to make it sound beautiful because all they're doing is banging one instrument with a stick during the sparse opportunities composers give them.
Camden Cook
>percussion sounds like shit
I will begrudge you the xylophone but percussion instruments have the chance to be extremely expressive
Have you never heard of Evelyn Glennie? She's probably the most famous percussion virtuoso (or should that be virtuosa?). She's also deaf.
I can't say I listen to much in the way of heavily percussion based works, but Macmillan's Veni, Veni Emmanuel percussion concerto is very good.
Angel Barnes
Yeah, the barefoot Irish woman. Now that you mention it, is there any other instrument you can become so good at as a deaf person?
Austin Anderson
Mahler Symphonies No 5 + 6. Shostakovich symphonies
James Lopez
She's Scottish
But I'm not sure there are really any others on the circuit today who went deaf as a child and continued to become leading figures. I mean there were a number of famous composers that went deaf, but that was generally towards the end of their life (Smetana, Faure, Boyce) with Beethoven being the only one who started the process a bit earlier
Mason Green
I'm listening to Palestrina's Missa Ecce sacerdos magnus and it seems like he has included one line of the original motet complete with text throughout the mass. I've never encountered this before, can anyone (potentially renaissance-user) explain this?
Carter Fisher
gute nacht is a great intro to winterreise
Mason Kelly
Can somebody play my autism please? I fucked up the key signature and pretty sure I fucked up the time signature too, and because of that sibelius skips some notes.
Isaac Nelson
What do you mean the original motet?
Robert Nelson
bump hjonestly desu senpai
Henry Lewis
Why is he so underrated?
William Scott
I've done a bit of looking and it looks like what Palestrina has done is a bit old-fashioned, using both the text and the melody of Ecce sacerdos magnus in the cantus firmus. From what I can see upon doing some reading, this is what the Notre-Dame school did, but it's really surprising to see Palestrina doing it since he's a few hundred years later.
Add this to the fact that I've never seen this before (and whilst I'm not an expert on renaissance music, I have listened to/read a fair bit about it) and it's a bit bemusing.
I really think he's underrated. His operas got so popular and well known that the classical hipster world rejected him, but dammit his operas really are pretty great.
Joseph Barnes
Violinist here.
You're a complete fucktard.
Jace Johnson
This looks like an explanation
>Yet there was one point in which Palestrina differed from the council's ideal: the problem of how to treat the text. According to the Netherlands school, the musical composition is primary. In the "Missa Ecce sacerdos" this is pushed to the point that the cantus firmus sings the text "Ecce sacerdos magnus," while the other three voices sing the text of the Mass, that is, two different texts are sung at once. Obviously, that does not help to understand the sung text. Here Palestrina was complying with a tradition that had been discredited in the minds of the humanists. They wanted no contrapuntal writing for their odes when set to music, and all the voices had to sing the same single text. For them, even religious texts simultaneously accompanying the Mass texts caused all the division and confusion that the early 16th century was accused of. His Roman surroundings made Palestrina aware of these shortcomings, and in his subsequent compositions he avoids such methods of mixing texts.
So it's just Palestrina being a bit youthful and exuberant. Or something like that anyway
Jace Myers
>who's more important, the chef or the line cook?
Chase Scott
The objective, correct ranking is
Summer > Winter > Autumn > Yanni: Live at the Acropolis > Spring
Alexander Evans
What's more important, the conductor or the orchestra+soloists?
Joshua Price
The best conductors can make a B-rate orchestra sound A-rate. So I would say conductor. Soloists usually have more input into the interpretation than the conductor will in concerti, but it's still up to the conductor to make the accompaniment go smoothly, and, depending on how strong their personality is, it's possible they will have a variant amount of input into the interpretation.
Joseph Edwards
conductors are important for how the rest of orchestra sounds thought out the performance. a bad conductor could most certainly ruin an orchestra
Logan Nguyen
is there a version of the rite of spring that deletes all the boring parts? (the second movement and 70% of the first one)
Isaac Reyes
Nope.
Ian Ward
bumping because important
Dominic Nguyen
>implying that any general on Sup Forums is worth preserving
Christopher Wright
Work on it some more bro I'm sure it'll sound good with some polish
Ayden Gomez
Have you ever heard Kuniko Kato's recording of pleiades?
All waifu stuff aside i thought it was p good
Elijah Taylor
Well, thank you very much for those mega-links. It really helped me.
