Just saw this movie today. Have not seen a whole lot of the marvel movies or comic books but had a few questions:
What was different from the original canon that they changed in the movie?
When Capt. America rescues the "rogue" avengers at the end, and leaves with them, do they make a new organization? What are they called?
What happens next in the comic book canon? Does the infinity wars actually happen next?
Any other interesting pieces of trivia you like to share.
Cap dies at the end in the comics
Captain America is assassinated at the end of the comic Civil War
SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
>watch movie
>expect Iron Man's shit to be pushed in
>I mean, literally pushed in, as in Cap shoving the shield through his actual chest
>instead he just breaks his reactor and tosses the shield to side
>writes him a sorry letter 10 minutes later
>No character building experiences for Rhode getting paralyzed, just get put in a handicap walker and he's just like new
Why does this movie pull its punches?
>What was different from the original canon that they changed in the movie?
A lot. But most notably in the comics Captain America surrenders and is later shot while leaving the courthouse.
>When Capt. America rescues the "rogue" avengers at the end, and leaves with them, do they make a new organization? What are they called?
Captain America dies, but his followers form the Secret Avengers, which operate outside of the law.
>What happens next in the comic book canon? Does the infinity wars actually happen next?
No. In the comics there's a storyline called "Secret Invasion", where it turns out that half the superhero community has been replaced by shapeshifting aliens, "Dark Reign", where, long story shot, Norman Osborn AKA the Green Goblin becomes the new head of SHIELD, culminating with "Siege", where Norman joins forces with Loki to create war between Earth and Asgard.
Cap was deflecting lasers how does he get shot by a mere bullet
Civil War in the comics is started after some shitty teenage superheroes who are filming a reality show about their crimefighting exploits fuck up and a villain blows up multiple city blocks and kills 600 people.
>What was different from the original canon that they changed in the movie?
Instead of Wanda blowing up an hospital, a bunch of superpowered teenagers accidentally trigger a living bomb that kills millions of people.
Instead of an accords there is an Act that includes the superheroes giving up their identities. Tony and Cap act worse than their movie counterparts, Spidey has a reason to side with Tony and they kill off the giant guy using a Thor robotic clone. It ends with Cap arrested and killed in the epilogue, but resurrects a year later because the bullet send him into time travel shit.
>When Capt. America rescues the "rogue" avengers at the end, and leaves with them, do they make a new organization? What are they called?
Secret Avengers.
>Does the infinity wars actually happen next?
No.
Is the vision going to die in the infinity gauntlet storyline, with his gemstone being one of the infinity stones?
Can anyone confirm??
>just get put in a handicap walker and he's just like new
Ehh i don't think so.
It was while he was being arrested and the bullet shot his soul into another dimension.
Vision will remain as a sentient robot minus emotions or anything considered human.
TL;DR "Civil War" in comics.
A group of young superheroes, the New Warriors, messes up bad and 600 people are killed in a fight with a group of C-list supervillains. The government decides to create a Registration Act where all superheroes must reveal their secret identities and become goverment agents, or be locked up as vigilantes. Captain America disagrees and forms a Resistance, while Iron Man supports the program and assembles his own team to capture the insurgents.
Iron Man convinces Spider-Man to join the Registration and reveal his secret identity, but Spider-Man begins regretting his decision when Iron Man gets progressively more obsessed with capturing Captain America, even creating a clone of Thor that goes crazy and kills one of Cap's men, Black Goliath.
Iron Man eventually uses supervillains as grunts to hunt down superheroes. Spider-Man goes rogue, and almost gets killed by these grunts before being rescued by the Punisher. Both join Cap's side.
Iron Man decides to throw all insurgents in a prison on the Negative Zone, but Cap intercepts him and releases the prisoners. Both sides battle in Manhattan and cause a lot of damage. Cap realizes they're so busy fighting themselves they're actually putting innocents in danger and surrenders.
Cap gets arrested, but his followers escape and go their separated ways, with a few assembling as the Secret Avengers. Iron Man becomes the new director of SHIELD and forms the government-sponsored Mighty Avengers.
Cap is shot dead by Crossbones and a brainwashed Sharon Carter while being escorted to the courtroom for his trial, and Bucky becomes the new Captain America.
It later turns out Cap was shot with time-travelling bullets and his consciousness was lost in time. He is revived in time to patch things up with Iron Man and prevent a war between Asgard and Earth orchestrated by Loki.
Thanos will probably rip it from his head
Is Thanos with the infinity gauntlet literally the strongest being in the marvel universe aside from the writer of the comic?
>It later turns out Cap was shot with time-travelling bullets and his consciousness was lost in time
That sounds so fucking stupid.
Aunt May is shot by the Kingpin and Spider-Man sells his marriage with MJ to the Devil to cure her.
Thor, who had died, comes back to life and is pissed at Iron Man for a long time.
Hulk got exiled to another planet by Iron Man and comes back with a vengeance, almost destroying the Earth.
Iron Man puts all his chips in a mega-powered hero called "The Sentry", but he turns out to have gotten his powers not from a freak accident, but from experimental drugs that also gave him a psychotic split personality, the Void. Green Goblin makes it so the Void takes over, and the Sentry becomes his enforcer and has an awesome fight with Thor.
It is agreed to be one of the worst comic book revivals so far.
>It later turns out Cap was shot with time-travelling bullets and his consciousness was lost in time
>Aunt May is shot by the Kingpin and Spider-Man sells his marriage with MJ to the Devil to cure her.
comic books are retarded
>Cap was shot with time-travelling bullets
Fucking capeshit
Was there literally an avenger named BUCKY in the comics with one iron arm?
They can get pretty crazy, but to be fair, those were executive mandates to get Cap back in time to cash in on his movie popularity and to erase Spider-Man's marriage because Joe Quesada hated it with a passion.
In the comics he was Cap's teen sidekick, kinda' like Robin. His dad died, so he was taken in by his dad's old army buddy and grew up in a military base, where Cap later served, and they became friends.
Bucky was a teen assassin who handled all kinds of wetworks shit Cap didn't have the stomach for. He later became the Winter Soldier pretty much as it happened in the comics, but by the actual Soviet Union rather than Hydra. He also fucked Black Widow on the reg and murdered one of Wolverine's many wives, the mother of Wolverine's sociopath bisexual son Daken.
What happened to SHIELD????
What the fuck is Hydra?
Why are the marvel comic movies so shit?
>PHASE 4 HURR THE REBUILDING OF THE AVENGERS
>PHASE 1 OF THE AVENGERS PROJECT STARTED WITH IRON MAN 1 IN 2008
>PHASE 4 ENDS IN 2019
>WHEN DOES THIS RIDE END
The ride ends once it no longer makes them assloads of money.
>expect Iron Man's shit to be pushed in
>>I mean, literally pushed in, as in Cap shoving the shield through his actual chest
>>instead he just breaks his reactor and tosses the shield to side
Thus killing the "Iron Man" Not Tony Stark though.
We need a fucking Planet Hulk movie now!
Where was the hulk and thor why didnt they help
Who was right, Cap America or Iron Man? Why???
>Despite having not read the script yet, Ruffalo has described Ragnarok as a Universal road movie or like the 1980s movie Midnight Run with the Hulk and Thor. He’s also teased that the Hulk’s personality and Banner’s personality have started to merge a bit.
What we’ve learned has lined up with what Ruffalo is sharing, plus a long-standing rumor about the future of the Hulk dating back to fandom’s post-Avengers cries in 2013. Back then, audiences were enthralled by that movie’s version of The Hulk and how he was funny, well-powered, and not a drag like he had been in the two previous Hulk movies that made it to screens. The rumor was that Marvel was planning to weave the character through the Avengers “Phases” in a creative way, banishing the Hulk from Earth after Avengers 2, spinning off into his own Planet Hulk movie (based on the Greg Pak comics storyline of the same name) and returning him to Earth in Phase Three in some sort of World War Hulk (also a comic book storyline) Avengers movie. The specifics of that arc were outright denied by Marvel staff over and over again, leading up to Joss Whedon’s follow-up (Avengers: Age of Ultron) and after the Hulk mysteriously steals a Quinjet and disappears at the end of that movie.
When Joss Whedon was asked if Planet Hulk or World War Hulk were going to be a Phase Three movies, his response was: “Well I’m really not supposed to comment, but no, that’s nonsense.” Which is what makes what follows all the more amazing. According to our sources, after Thor catches on to Hela and Loki’s (still mysterious) plot that is going down in Asgard, Hela destroys Mjolnir, and banishes Thor from Asgard (which we covered here). Loki and Hela’s plan involves the major arc of the Marvel Universe, and just when it looks like Thor is about to put a stop to it, he gets banished — but not to any old planet.
> He ends up on a gladiatorial planet where his head is shaved and he’s forced to fight for his life. Let’s call this planet Sakaar, like it was in the comic books.
Thor knows that he has to get to some MacGuffin weapon object to defeat Hela and Loki (could this be the Infinity Gauntlet that Thanos is in possession of, or maybe an assemblage of Infinity Stones?) and he has to get off the planet. Thor runs through all of his alien opponents in gladiatorial combat, even without his trademark hammer. Finally, Thor has to face the current champion of the arena, and wouldn’t you know who that ends up being? The Hulk.
Hulk is outter space fucking alien bitches, Thor could care less bout Earth's issue aslong as it doesn't involve Asgard and Cap was in the right but I felt sympathy for Tony.
When we reconnect with Hulk in Thor: Ragnarok, he’s managed to avoid reverting back to the Banner state since we last saw him in the Quinjet in Avengers: Age of Ultron. Hulk in Hulk form is pretty much unkillable, so he survived the trip to Sakaar (however he got there). His “Banner” is starting to seep through into the Hulk persona, and because of the Hulk-Banner melding, Hulk actually remembers Thor and his relationship to him. That’s what starts the two on a Midnight Run to the MacGuffin that Thor desperately needs.
I thought Loki died
>thinking I'm gonna read all that shit
Nigga you better summarize.
It's almost 100% different. The only similarity is really that Cap and Tony are each leading the sides.
Not addressed in the comics because it didn't happen.
Secret Invasion. Bunch of aliens replace a bunch of heroes. No one knows who's who. Infinity War is a storyline that ran back in the 90s. Civil War ran like 15 years later. The movies are not following the chronology of the comics.
Civil War in the comics is a significantly bigger event with a lot more twists and turns. There was no villain to turn the heroes against each other, the registration act was an internal idea. The event that triggered it was a young superhero team shooting a reality show where they catch villains. Shit goes wrong, one hero's powers go out of control, he blows up, hundreds of people die, including a school full of children.
Tony and Reid Richards team up with a scheme where everyone with powers is forced to register and work on a sanctioned team with oversight. Cap thinks that's bullshit. They fight. A Thor-bot is built by Tony to fight for them. Some hero is killed. Tony and Reid start throwing everyone into a super prison they built in the negative zone. Some people on their side like Parker start realizing "Holy shit, this is fucked up" and betray Tony. Massive break out is staged. Fight carries over into NYC after some mass teleportation. Cap has a moment of clarity and gives up. Someone shoots him and he dies. Really the best part of the whole thing is that they did a whole bunch of tie in stories with other heroes that aren't the main characters and showed how they were effected and what side they took.
No he faked it. Watch the ending of Thor 2 and you'll see.
how is civil war bigger than the INFINITY GAUNTLET?
Since they can't legally make a solo Hulk movie thanks to universal not handing over the rights. Thor 3 will be a buddy cop movie in space with Thor and Hulk.
What is stronger
World War Hulk
Infinity Thanos
SuperMan
I was talking about in comparison with the Civil War movie, not with Infinity War.
Why was this movie worse than superman vs batman
>Cap was shot with time-travelling bullets
Fucking hell Marvel