Hey Sup Forumsros, I'm feeling down and I'm hoping you guys can help me out again...

Hey Sup Forumsros, I'm feeling down and I'm hoping you guys can help me out again. I come here now and again and I honestly get great help with whatever is happening with me. I'll try my best to keep the story short, and hopefully some of you can read through all of this and share some words of wisdom, I really need them right now.

I have a friend named Jack, his GF named Jill, we live in Southern California. Jill used to live in Northern California, and since the move several of her friends come down to visit a few times a year. Jill has an amazing friend, fuck it we're just gonna call her Jackie I guess. I met Jackie after my first break up, I was 18 and it was at a party Jill was throwing. As soon as I walk in the door I'm introduced to Jill and all her friends, and I hit it off with them really well. Jackie and I were inseperable the whole night, we got along really well, and the next day she was gone excited for the next time she could come visit.

About 6 months pass, she comes down, and after spending a whole day with her alone cause all of my friends have work, I realize that I'm falling for her hard. I didn't want to ruin her time here by making a move and her possibly not being interested, it could make things awkward and decided it wasn't fair to her. She stayed for a week, we were together almost every day, and she was gone again. I wrote her a letter telling her how I felt, and a faggy poem that I worked really hard on. She got it, told me she didn't see me that way, but we continued being friends.

This all happened around last year, since then she comes down, and nothing has changed. We're still alone a lot, we make the same jokes, I'm happy my feelings didn't ruin it. She came down again on Saturday, left the next day. Everytime she leaves, I feel dead. I want to be with her so badly, but I just don't think she'll ever feel the same way. A part of me wants to try something again, another part says give up. Cheesy romantic movies always have the main guy doing something extravagent to get the girl, I know its probably dumb but maybe if I did something amazing she'd give me a chance. The hours of roaming the streets at 2 am playing Pokemon GO telling stupid jokes and hearing her laugh was so amazing, I love all the time I get with her and wish there were more hours in a day.

Any words Sup Forumsrothers? I can give more details if anyone wants, I could really use the talking to.

If she's not interested, then she's not interested, regardless of how you feel.

Don't go for the grand romantic gesture with someone who already shot you down. You'll just look like a faggot.

amen

amen

I know I shouldn't I'm selfish. A part of me just thinks that a big thing might reveal how much I actually care for her, and not just wanting sex or something. A lot of guys fall for her and she turns down all of them, so sometimes I think maybe I need to be something more than just another guy in line.

I'm the faggot of everyone in that group anyway though. I legit feel like a cuck. A month ago she was DM'ing me about issues with her ex and I talked it over with her at 2 am.

Fucking wisdom right here.

amen

I get it Sup Forumsro. We've all been there. Im gonna tell you what i wish soneone told me; Move the fuck on. Save yourself the hurt

>talks with you about her ex

get it you cuck

You could always try for the Devils threesome.

so you're gay>?
men want sex
love comes with sex
if shes not into you it may be because you're soft and not a 'take charge' guy
i've been in this position before
i went for it
we fucked
then i realised i was in love with the thought of her
not her. we still talk from time to time and fuck every so often when neither of us have bf/gf

Give me the advice, I have some ideas, but I think they're going too far.

She's a virgin, only had 1 boyfriend.

I would do anything to become the take charge guy, I'm just not entirely sure what. I have ideas like I said. Also no I'm not actually gay I'm just shitting on myself.

Pretty much this dude, you just have to suck it up and move on, there's nothing you can do to change her mind. No acts, no poems, no romantic gestures will change it. Best thing to do is just find another one. And binge watch porn.

No bro, no. No big reveal, none of that. Nothing will change her mind. Romantic movies are bullshit, this is real life, you need a red pill. Do NOT let yourself be cucked like that. You straight up tell her that she knows you have feelings for her and talking about other guys makes you uncomfortable, and if she tries to make you feel guilty about it, you never speak to that bitch again, plain and simple.

Watching porn has never helped me get over feelings like this. Its not sexual frustration at all, I could wait till marriage for this girl, sex isn't what I want.

Ok I mean it would be nice, but sex is the last thing on my mind when it comes to her.

It doesn't make me uncomfortable at all, it just makes me feel sad. We're such close friends, we spend a lot of time together, she was able to talk to me when she was in need, but something is stopping me from getting closer.

I just want her man. I know I'm young and stupid, but there are several girls I could be with tonight that I don't want. I want her.

You're putting the pussy on a pedestal dude. Go watch 40yo virgin. The guys giving him advice aren't wrong dude. Women ARE stupid.

I actually might give it a watch, I never have seen it. I know women are stupid, I have experience with women, but I'd be willing to put up with anything if it meant I could call her mine.

And starving children and Africa would like some fucking food, but you don't get shit just because you want it more than anyone else, and sometimes, there's no amount of effort or hard would you can put into something and see results. You have to learn to just walk away, and not just with girls either, that shit applies to life in general.

if you would do anything you would have done it
the worse she can say is no and reject you
it is not the end of the world. the quicker you realise that the faster you can get past that barrier. the only way i wouldn't recommend going for it is if it's someone who you see often ie work with. but that is not the case
i believe in persistence. so do not make the gesture untill you get a go signal. anything, it could be a look it could be the way she touches you, if she laughes at jokes that you wouldnt find funny shes game just may be scared to catch feelings/ it may just be a case that she feels theres no point cos you guys live so far away and girls are needy.
read her body language and her word patterns.
best way to see if a girl would like you.
or you could just get nice and drunk and see if she reacts to anything.
if its a no for any of these things. save yourself the hassle. plenty of fish in the sea

Wait til marriage? Are you serious dude? You're beyond help.

Get over it. Create distance. No need to keep confronting yourself with an unattainable fantasy. You kinda sound like an addict really.

Creating distance will also remove the tunnel vision you have right now.

This guy is a potential rapist, do not force shit in 2016 unless you want to go to prison. Rub her the wrong way and she's going to be screaming rape and you're going to be getting buttfucked in jail.

That's true, I know I don't get everything I want, its just hard to accept. I don't know, a part of me just thinks she isn't taking me seriously. I'm the fucking clown of that whole group, I make jokes and rarely any of them have seen me talk about something seriously because I hate that mentality. Part of me thinks that a second try would prove that to her. I'm probably delusional.

We touch all the time. We hug, when she sit any part of us could be touching and it doesn't matter. We're really close, I will always think theres a chance, I'm just scared of losing her. She's a great friend, and I'd hate to fucking scare her away.

right my man? I'm a nut,

We live on opposite sides of a country. We have distance for months. It always comes back.

loooooooooooooooooooooooool
you are a child
and clearly a virgin
or have too much compassion.
the girls i like want a man. not a boy
someone to take charge and show them what they want not asked
'are you ok?'
'was that good for you?'
'how are you feeling'?
trust me when i say girls think about sex as much as men.
they just make it obvious

I appreciate you bumping my thread, but I'd also like some help my man. I'm genuinely not sure what to do and I can't go to my friends with this.

Sorry, I can't take any OP with anime or pokemon seriously. It's obnoxious as fuck. So go end your life.

Thanks for the bump my man, I'll probably end my life a few years down the line who knows.

I'm not going to compare epeens with you, but giving him the advice of getting her drunk, in today's society, with all the feminism and shit, you're going to get him in jail taking advice like that. I get you with the asking "are you ok" and cringy shit like that, you're right that shit is fucking beta as hell and will put you in the friendzone fast, but the other shit, nah man. You gotta be careful as a white man in 2016 trying to get laid. She can "change her mind" up to 24 hours later and still call rape. You gotta be damn sure these days, but then I live in America, so my people are fucked in the head.

Guys this isn't me trying to fuck this chick. As gay as it sounds I want more with her than just that.

Dude... not physical distance! emotional distance... You behave like a fucking doormat the minute she comes to town.
I meant that next time she comes over u should NOT meet up.

if you think theres a chance. go for it
be respectful
but obvious. call her sweetie princess queen
compliment her but not too much. worst she can do is reject you. stop being a fag and do it

This is the truth OP
of course being a faggot might be better than being a fuckless virgin.

Sweetie princess queen? Only if you're wearing a fucking fedora while you do it, and only as a fucking joke you nob gobbler. Even then, she would still probably cringe.

Holy fucking fuck.

Sweetie princess queen...god damnit user...

But c'mon dude she visits 3 times a year tops, shes my friend.

Is it possible to get more advice than "just go for it". I'm not trying to be rude, I'm just not entirely sure what to do. I do have one main idea that I think could work, but I'm afraid it goes too far.

c'mon my man he's just trying to help.

"Sweetie princess queen" oh shit when's the next cringe thread I'm screencapping, my sides are in orbit. Summer ends in a month and I can't wait.

>southern california
Spotted the spic. Just fuck off, shes not interested. You play pokemon and seriously whats gonna happen is youre gonna become a fucking cuck if you keep kissing her ass like that. Who knows, though. Maybe if you keep kissing her ass shes gonna "date" you for a few months with no kissing or fucking involved till she finds a guy to ditch you for.

not a beaner, literally white as hell go fuck yourself. thanks for the bump.

don't worry about that guy.
i don't need to prove anything or justify why i use thoes terms of endeerment cos they fucking work
also what did you have in mind

Then forget it. She dont want you. Even if you surprisingly get her it wont last more than a few months before she completely stops talking to you.

By giving advice like that? Hell no man, either he's fucking trolling you or he's a virgin himself. That is some next level beta right there. Either way he is not fucking helping you. Do NOT use pet names, at all. Let me give you the REAL advice, ok...

1. No fucking pet names since that's fresh in my mind
2. Do not take her shit in any way shape or form. If she does something or says something to piss her off, you tell her.
3. Treat her like she is a fucking man. I'm serious as hell. Do not put the pussy on a pedestal. They're just like you. She is not some princess. If she says she's slept with only 1 guy, she still has probably sucked lots of dicks. See the movie Clerks. (the original)
4. Do not let her walk all over you or take advantage of you. If women want equality in 2016 they can pay for their own meals and movie tickets, ESPECIALLY if they're not fucking you. Hell to the fuck no.

Alpha Anons please add to this list I gotta get ready for work

Thats just fucking sad, man. You white cuck piece of shit playing pokemon.
>literally white as hell
>plays pokemon
>asks for advice on Sup Forums
>too autistic to take rejection

Kys

Ok, so she lives in Norcal, 2 hours from where she lives my homie Jack has a ton of cousins and friends who live out there and I've never visited. I get paid on Friday, I was thinking hit those guys up, drive down 6 hours and be with them for a day or two.

Text her and tell her I decided to visit, plan to get dinner or something with her when she's free, and tell her. I don't know what I would say to be honest, but I can come up with something. I think its a great excuse to go up to her, and I think it could potentially be seen as sweet of me to do something like that for her.

Idk

Virgin, said it once say it again. Literally has done nothing, confirmed from many many sources even the 2 guys who got with her when she was drunk. C'mon man I know I'm not alpha, but I just want this fucking girl, and I don't know how to do it.

Maybe on fucking highschool girls or your grandchildren

Think about it for a second. If a girl called you sweetie prince king, would you not just throw up a little? I know I would. I would run far and fast.

He was obviously saying that to fuck you over. How autistic are you? No wonder you cant get pussy

WAKE UP OP you aren't going to get more than what you have now. Enjoy her as a friend or if you can't do that without obsessing about her like a creepy faggot then try to avoid her. But either way you are not going to be in any type of relationship with her.

As hard as it is to believe, I can SOMEHOW get pussy. It blows me away.

Well thanks for the bump. I'm not gonna argue with you either but I'm not being a creepy faggot. I'm a fucking young guy who hasn't dealt with this before and is asking in a way that wont come back to bite me.

SHE ALREADY REJECTED YOU
If you do that, she's just going to reject you again, why the fuck would it be any different from before? Nothing has changed. Listen dude, when I was young I was a betafag myself, I put myself through a lot of shit before I got where I am today, and I am trying to save your cuck ass from a lot of pain an embarrassment. Stop rejecting the advice. If you bring it up to her again, you will be sorry. If she decides she wants to be with you, she already knows how you feel, and SHE will tell YOU, but don't fucking get your hopes up.

Im done, she clearly said shes not interested, youre clearly autistic and it clearly wouldnt work out. At this point its like youre just trying to humiliate yourself or youre unable fo accept shes not into you. This will only end bad for you OP

Kiss the bitch OP, if she kisses back you're good if she doesn't than rape her.

not a bad idea.
dont ask her when shes free, say to her? im free at 18:00pm wanna go for food? dont ask her where to go, you make the decision, if shes busy go hang with your friends and cousins. if she agrees, just be honest with her. it will either go well or it wont. you wont know till you ask. try not to do anything super romantic till you know you're both on the same page at least to a certain extent

Normally I would agree that its insane but I don't think its that bad to maybe try again. I know of plenty of people who never thought they'd end up with the person they are with, and I've heard plenty of their stories of how they tried and tried.

I may be a fucking beta, I'm here asking for advice, and I'm not rejecting any of it. I'm hearing input, and giving my thoughts, in the hopes I'll find an answer that helps me settle. Don't shit on me cause I'm confused and think theres a chance.

Probably true, but just like I just said, don't shit on me for having hope man. Whats the point of living without hoping.

c'mon my man

Romantic movies are for women. They aren't real life. Do not base your actions on them, as the main characters are always weird stalkers in those.

You fucked up writing a poem, because poems are gay. Post the poem here.

She's not into you dude. She has spent enough time with you to make up her mind. She's an adult capable of knowing how she feels. Just let it go.

You can have hope but she rejected you not long ago, dont be a clingy beta fuck. You said it yourself she turns everyome down, maybe she just doesn't want to be in a relationship atm?

My last bit of advice to you is this dude

Focus on yourself. Be selfish as fuck. Everyone else is these days. Do not make sacrifices for other people if they would not do the same for you, and do NOT just assume that they would, I mean they actually need to be doing shit for you, or fuck them. Work on bettering yourself, first and foremost. Don't like your appearance? Work at it. No amount of pity parties will change it. Need more money? Work a better job or more hours. Not smart enough? Read up motherfucker. There is always a way to be better. When you reach the pinnacle of who you can be, the bitches will flock to you, and I'm aware that you don't care about that shit, but that would be the only thing you could possibly do that would change her mind. None of this persistence shit, you're just going to irritate her and make her hate you. Distance yourself, work on yourself, and in 2 years speak to her again, show her how fucking awesome you've become, and then? Fuck her best friend, because fuck bitches dude. She thinks she's too good for you, that she can do better. She thinks your trash. That doesn't mean that you ARE trash, it just means she's a bitch. So prove her wrong, and if after all that shit you still want to be with her and she's attracted to your success then fine, but that's still a form of cucking yourself, having to bust your ass just to meet her stupid fucking standards.Your goal now is to make her regret rejecting to, in any way you can. Make her want you. You don't do that by harassing her and repeatedly telling her how much you care about her. You do that by making yourself the best you can possibly be. What do you from there is up to you though.

You wrote her a poem. You must at least be a little gay.

Sometimes the best love comes in the form of a friendship. I would just cherish that for now....a lot of people don't even have someone they can have such a good time with. That being said..... Women want what they can't have. I'm sure that one day you will get a gf and wont have as much time for her and she will realize she has been dumb and THEN SHE WILL WANT YOU.

Patience is key my friend. Do not go for the grand gesture which at this point will fall flat.

How is she the bad guy here? Why is it people who use the term "red pulled" are always angry manbabys?

Bruh I'm giving you the gordon ramsay because I think you need it, don't take my shit talking personally, I just really think you need an awakening, because you're deep in denial atm, you need the tough love that only an asshole like Sup Forums can give. You were right to come to us with this.

>wants no anime on the biggest weeb board in the world.

you know where you are, right?

>inb4 shes a lesbian

Post a pic of you and of her. We can solve this pretty quickly

this is a good idea user

This rapist has never consensually got laid

Got this yesterday


Does it help?

Whoah guys this dude's life sucks enough as it is without us fucking making it any worse, and that's not me being a white knight, that's me being a fucking Sup Forumsro.

Patience guy here. Don't listen to this fag.... just cause everyone is selfish doesn't mean you should devolve into a mouth breather.

writing poems or whatever is not gay, keep it up. that is just shit dumb assholes who can't write say. When you have been dating someone for years and can actually write them a nice card it means a lot to them
again man...just be patient. persistence is key and by that i mean just stick with being her friend and dont push it or you will lose her entirely. she will come around when she can't have you.... now you are too easy.

Yeah man. Don't be a fag and call her a sweetie princess queen. None of those are totally common gay terms

OP. Youre obviously beta and somewhat a little autistic. How is the girl? Is she a 6/10? Is she also some private school insecure bitch or something? If shes not a beta fuck, she wont date you ever.

It's super beta to think about dicks like that, homo.

Ok, make the plans and choose the place. Sounds good. I didn't plan on saying anything too crazy, fuck man to be honest I'm not even sure what I would say. I wouldn't be able to do it in the public place, we'd for sure head somewhere after. If im gonna do this I need to think it out, just not sure what I would even say to her. I'd be lying if I said the fear of failure is killing me.

I know romantic movies are for women. I hear girls rave all the time about how "they'd love if a guy did something like that" and I also know the set ups in movies are way too extreme to be realistic.

I'm saying the concept, the concept of taking the extra mile for her. But maybe you're right, she could have thought this all out, but whats wrong with asking for a chance at least?

Also I would post the poem, but she has it. I wrote it on fucking paper.

Thats fair, maybe she doesn't. But how could I be totally sure if I don't make one last attempt? Maybe it could be something else entirely.

As much as I know this is a joke, the thought of her being sad about rejecting me makes me depressed. This girl is one of the nicest I've met in my life, she doesn't deserve that kind of shit my man.

Maybe this is true, but I feel like the more I wait the less of a chance there will be. I'm fucking stupid.

but other people think theres a chance, doesn't that mean anything? or is the denial really that bad?

I'd actually kms

Man I would love to, thing is you guys are monsters and that image would ruin me. Sorry guys.

Hey that's p good, I caught my first Pikachu yesterday with her, we were both happy and she was cute as fuck about it.

Thanks Sup Forumsro, I think.

maybe you guys are right. I'm just scared of losing her.

I'm like a 5 or 6/10. To me shes a 10/10, obviously. You guys would probably think shes a 6 I think.

Also she isn't beta fml

Asshole again, this guy isn't entirely wrong in telling you not to be a selfish scumbag. I'm telling you that because you're so NOT selfish, that being as selfish as you can possible be is going to land you in the right spot. Being a total dick won't get you far though, he's got me on that one. Writing poems for someone who already loves you is fine sure, but not if it's someone who has rejected you. Grills are not attracted to desperation.

I know, thats why I was hoping for some alpha advice. I honestly thought my road trip idea was decent...

Nah not for that reason man. This is probably some fat nerd who thinks his "personality" means this way hotter broad should date him.

I'm 128. I'm kind of tan, honestly 5 or 6/10 nothing too great. I have friends who think I'm funny, she thinks I'm really funny...

C'mon man please don't shit on me this is already bummin me out.

This isn't someone who has been together forever. In that case, it's ok to write poetry when you forget to get a real gift. If you're not dating, poems reek of desperation, and are a joke to all her friends. Poetry doesn't take skill. Rappers do it all the time.

Well sorry to say it but you have pretty pathetic tastes like weab shit and pokemon. Does she have similar interests to yours? If not, sorry man but theres really no way its ever gonna work out.

You don't need pictures for that

How much you weigh OP?
How much she weigh?
If you're American, this is a decent rating category, it will at least give us some idea

Mate, it's good that you told her, that's courage right there. But don't give her any more attention without getting anything in return. Cut all ties with her and move on.

If you continue with being friends she is just gonna feel great and you will feel bad. Just move on.

128? Either you're a child or a manchild....how old are you? How tall?

What do you mean "a chance"? She obviously gave you a chance and decided you weren't for her. She probably wants a man is all.

Man the way you write I can't handle that bullshit you pretty much represents that Fucking Pikachu how old are you man you are so fucking soft and sympathetic.

Girls want a man who are in charge even if they are a big ugly criminal nigger.

The best advice I can tell you is work on yourself and stop talking to this fucking cunt.
Pic unrelated

>128
ayyyyy i knew your were skinny, small and weak

Make the pic untraceable.

I don't really mean you are being an obsessive creep I honestly see a bit of my younger self in you and I am trying, probably in vain, to smack some reality into you. I have been where you are, I have had several friends be in your position and the girl never ends up fall for us. The only thing that happens is you will walk around for a while, possibly a long while, in a depression and not even attempt to date anyone else.

Imagine a girl you have zero interest in and then think of her thinking about you nonstop and mooping around hoping you will fall in love with her. This will give you a good understanding of just how repulsive acting like this is to this girl you like.

Basically OP
>Forget her, move on
>Work on yourself, because you sound like you need it, no offense but seriously Sup Forumsro,

The only good advice is to move on. You don't need to treat her like a fucking child who can't make up her own mind.

How short are you?

Stop being a greedy little fuckin bitch and get your own slut, faggot

I meant 128 kilos

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You see all these people raging at you? Do you know why they're raging, first and foremost? It's because all of us, every single one, have fucking been there before. We know how much it sucks. We know dude. So you need to listen to what we're telling you. Even guys you see that are alpha as fuck were hurt by some girl at some point, they just learned faster.

Not a fucking weeb man, c'mon. We have a lot of similar interests. We like the same shows, we make the same kind of jokes, we both like art and making art, like the same kind of music, I know that sounds generic but its 5:30 am and I haven't slept cause of this thread, just know we honestly are really close friends with a lot in common,

I'm 128, barely any muscle tone but so skinny I have a visible 6 pack, I'm fucking gay. I have no idea what she weights to honest, maybe 140? Idk

But at least if I make her happy she'll be happy. I like it when shes really happy, its cute.

19, 5'8. I have a digestion problem so its hard to gain weight.

I was hoping some of you alpha Sup Forumsros can teach me the ways.

thanks for the bump my man

thanks for the bump, and yeah true.

lol

I have a handful of girls who want to fuck. I'm gonna get my dick sucked later this week and stop talking to them. Its easy to get laid, I don't want to get laid.

I know but like, c'mon.

pretty, only 5'8. feelsbad

fuck off chad she's mine.

See i read all these posts and I'm about to accept that, but then some people in this thread revive the hope in me. Did you read my roadtrip plan? I think its pretty decent

Jack and Jill huh? Who're you then, Hank HILL? FUCK OFF FAGGOT.

Also, get you some pootang.

So not American? You can thank god for that. American women are giant cunts, if that helps explain some of my reasoning.

There are no romantic movies where at the wedding, she tells her friends "I kept giving him obvious signals that I just wanted to be friends. The he wrote a stupid poem, and I had to firmly reject him. But when he showed up where I live, like a typical serial killer, THAT is when I knew I'd spend my life with him."

Sounds more like she thinks she'd spend the rest of her life with you, locked in your basement.

Shut the fuck up you fag, that's not poetry. Real poetry is fucking hard as shit.

that wasn't OP. FML

Me and Jackie are both American.

FUCK I'VE BEEN SPOTTED

also I am later this week.

Dude come the fuck on. I know you're just trolling me but me texting her "Hey I'm in Norcal visiting Jack's cousins, wanna hang out before I leave?" Isn't fuckin creepy.

Fuck off, thanks for bump.

If anyone here is trying to give you hope, it's because they're assholes and they're trolling you, probably spiteful kissless virgins. There's no hope dude, I already told you, the ONLY hope you have to get her, specifically, would be to work on yourself and turn yourself into someone she could see herself with, and that shit takes time, but harassing her (and that's what it is if you keep asking her why why why and repeatedly telling her you like her and hitting on her and shit, she's just going to remove you from her life completely if you keep that shit up) is not the way.

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

Ok nevermind you obviously didn't understand my post it had zero to do with you fucking or having the ability to get laid. I assume this has all been bullshit have fun.