"UK Grime" is literally just British people rapping over trap instrumentals and adding some Death Grips influence into the beats, lyrics, and rapping delivery style and then pretending it's somehow EDM or something and not just ghetto britbongs aping innovative American hip-hop styles and turning them into complete and utter shit. Prove me wrong.
"UK Grime" is literally just British people rapping over trap instrumentals and adding some Death Grips influence into...
Samuel Clark
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Owen Brooks
grime precedes trap and death grips by a pretty substantial timeframe so that's not really correct. it's also not really a derivative of hip hop so much as it is a heavily hip hop influenced development from earlier forms of british dance music/soundclash culture.
Eli Evans
Grime was around before Death Grips
Traditional grime beats are influenced by trap but honestly sound a lot closer to dark garage - the overt trap influence is a recent thing ever since it came into vogue because they're two styles which are similar enough that crossover makes sense
Grime is directly influenced by garage and DnB, there's no 'pretending' it's EDM
Justin Phillips
MCing over music goes back to the dancehall/soundsystem culture anyway, That's where hip-hop came from.
In the case of grime, it was that soundsystem culture filtered through a fusion with British dance musicc/rave/club culture via the hardcore continuum which carried on into garage and dubstep (and to a much lesser extent, jungle/drum and bass/breakbeat) from which grime was directly birthed out of and coincided with in the early 00s.
Not to mention the concept of MCs on pirate radio (which was inextricably linked to british underground dance music and the rave scene from the beginning and throughout all of its developments even to the present day) both hyping up listeners, promoting events, or responding directly to listeners. When ragga MCing style and influence from the Jamaican diaspora became more apparent in the music around '92, '93, onward, it mixed two styles of pirate radio informational address, or personal callouts or storytelling/general chatter with the strictly hype-up patois at a lot of the nights This would mutate a lot over the years. Sometimes it was more Jamaican patois and ragga talk, other times more England-centric casual vernacular or laidback style of talking, often it had a lot of slang and speech patterns specific to inner city and non-Jamaican (or at least not first generation immigrant Jamaican) ethnic communities.
Bentley Ross
>That's not even a grime album
>it's an evolution of garage which was huge in the mid 90s
>'grime' concept has been going since 2006ish don't act like they're hopping in the death grips meme.
>no one in grime says it's EDM
>grime is not the only form of British hip hop, acts like flame griller and verb t champion actual hip hop of around 80bpm
>Kano
Ian Lewis
For those who still don't understand, just skim through these to understand the development of grime over time through MCing in dancehall, rave, hardcore, jungle, dnb, and finally garage, from which it emerged simultaneously with dubstep:
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Christopher Collins
What is it then?
Juan Perez
bidc is most definitely a grime album lol
Charles Baker
LITERALLY hip-hop with a sped up beat
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Cameron Robinson
as if anybody on their website is going to take the time to educate themselves,
Joseph Adams
Grime is unamerican
Dylan Perry
>Not even a grime album
What the fuck are you talking about, it's literally the blueprint for the whole genre
>'grime' concept has been going since 2006ish
I remember kids talking about grime when Lethal Bizzle came out with Pow in like 2004/2005
Jayden Perry
It's too slow paced to be what is currently seen as grime. Just because it's some council flat rap about shottin weed doesn't make it grime. Tracks like Jezebel, fix up look sharp and Sutton' here are around 90 bpm whereas grime is typically 130 bpm
Isaiah Hall
>it's literally the blueprint for the whole genre
Not really. It was hugely influential, but Grime for sure existed before then, but it hadn't been put out in a way that really made it accessible for the mainstream or traditional music press to cover it (eg. in an album format)
Isaiah Morris
>It's too slow paced to be what is currently seen as grime
That's like saying early dubstep (both half-time 140 and the stuff before that) ain't dubstep because it all sounds like Skrillex now.
Austin Wood
Even the latest Giggs album isn't grime because it's too slow. It's more trap. would you class roots manuva as grime? No.
Luke Perez
Giggs was literally never grime though so that's not a surprise.
He jumped on the grime success wave in the past year or 2 with tracks like Man Don't Care and 3 Wheel-Ups but he's never been grime.
Oliver Perry
>British rap
Lmao why
Why would anyone ever listen to this if you don't live in bongland?
Justin Martinez
STOP DAT
Zachary Anderson
TELL MY MAN SHUT UP
Adam Thompson
>not ever having listened to Skepta
Connor Smith
It sounds less pussified
Easton Fisher
>this thread again
>people falling for it