You should stop paying your taxes, you're just reinforcing their behavior by giving them what they want

You should stop paying your taxes, you're just reinforcing their behavior by giving them what they want.

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Good idea. Who needs shit like roads?

I want a state though.

The government?

I enjoy having roads, transit, sewage, schools, police and fire prevention in my town.

No thank you.

Do you live on the streets op?

Yah ur right op we don't need police we can handle things on our own without fighting and stuff

what are:
roads
sewerage
power distribution
primary rail lines
schools
emergency services
primary medical services
armed forces

Let's talk about the REAL double standard here: Feminism

Give a transgender person a separate bathroom, and everything's fine
Give a black person a separate bathroom, and suddenly you're racist

/thread

Or we could just all get together and actually demand that they show their work in terms of where exactly our taxes are going, so it could be used to actually create and maintain all the things that make life okayish instead of lining the pockets of the handful of greedy assholes who know all the tricks and loopholes and shit.

Taxes aren't bad, they're just misused.

Please name three great civilizations that were built without taxes.

and everything would be fine for a few years, and then the corruption seeps back in

the only solution to the human urge to corruption is to kill all humans

i pay to drive on toll roads
i pay for electricity, trash, and transportation (yes train tickets too)
if i go to the hospital i have to pay for that as well
no country has attempted to invade the us since pearl harbor, a military is pretty useless right now

ill give you school, until grade 12

OP is a nigger

I second this. Shit like welfare really needs to get the fuck out.

I believe you should have the right to not pay taxes. You just can't get anything they give you, including help from police, ambulance, and firefighters. If you don't want to support society, fine, but society won't do fuck all for you.

>no country has attempted to invade the us since pearl harbor, a military is pretty useless right now
Because we have the worlds strongest military, idiot. If they disappeared we'd be Russian by the weekend.

Its easy to not pay taxes, be a nigger and sign up for government cheese and live in da projects.

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Underated.

Enjoy the firemen refusing to put out your house until the cheque clears.

only because we are misusing our military and invading and occupying other countries, there is no war, we are occupying - the exact same thing that japan tried to do with pearl harbor

The police shouldn't have to protect you then, and there should be no consequences for crimes committed against you.

If people want roads, someone will gladly take their money to build them. If McDonald's cooks up a hundred shitty burgers and throws them at your house, are you going to pay for them, cuck boy?

yea, but why did police stealth my broken telephone and a me. 163 bomber plastic model
it was posession revision

All of these things are built and maintained by people, there's no reason they would go away just because everyone isn't forced to pay for them. Some people like a good burger, they don't go around demanding everyone else pay for a burger as well.

>Being this fucking retarded.

It's like you've never had a history class in your life.

Holy shit, does anyone have a scrabble board to unravel this fucking mystery.

You cant honestly think the world would take us over in a heartbeat because 'our military were mean'? Any nation that suddenly couldnt protect itself would get taken over.

DROs motherfucker. Niggers need to read some Walter Block

Do you fucking cucks honestly think the police exists to protect you? If you don't want to die, buy a gun, learn to use it, and live somewhere other than a shithole. But I guess working for the things you want would be to hard, so you want everyone else to do it for you?

>Implying a state would ever willingly cede power

fuck you stop triggering me!

I don't give a shit about building up a "great civilization" that can be run and controlled by a group of cowardly shits who sit around and write decrees.

Shitty bait but I bet people take it anyways

Ok faggot I'm if a family member gets murdered you'll hunt them down like Batman.

Im sure if*

>i pay to drive on toll roads
toll roads are privately owned, without a government and taxes, all roads would be toll roads

>i pay for electricity,
not sure how things work in hypocritical traitor land, but here in britain you pay for the power from the plant, not for its transportation as the power grid is owned by the crown

> trash,
do you pay for the sewers though? or the treatment plants that handle your turds?

>and transportation (yes train tickets too)
1: (passenger trains) what is AMTRAK?
2: (freight) in yankland each company owns its own tracks, and jealously restricts access to everyone else
everyone else has the all the major lines owned by the government and everyone uses them, the only private lines are ones linking specific industries to either other industries or onto the main network

>if i go to the hospital i have to pay for that as well
anyone who willingly defends a system that leads to people putting off dealing with (then) minor problems for financial reasons (leading to them becoming major problems) and making the recovery period worse with excessive money worries, against the possibility of a "free at point of delivery" system, is a sadist at best and a sociopath at worst

>no country has attempted to invade the us since pearl harbor, a military is pretty useless right now
no first tier country has been invaded since '45 for the very good reason that it would be suicide on account of the threat of nuclear retaliation, (look at how some Ukranian politicos have expressed regrets over turning over their old soviet nukes to russia in the 90s, given that they've been invaded)

>You replied to bait.

bait detected

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No, hunting them down won't prevent any of my family members from getting killed, but I would certainly defend my home and work with my neighbors etc if anyone's seen him. People don't like murderers.

So you wont care about, say, your wife's killer being brought to justice? The police have far great resources than you asking Betty across the street if she saw anything last night.

You have to pay for all of these thing anyway you retard, there's just no competition, plus who cares if all the roads are toll roads? Do you honestly think people can't or shouldn't slow down every once in a while on the road? Plus you're precious freeways were built entirely for the benefit of giant corporations.

Hey buddy this isn't home alone alright? You'd be dead before you could even get your gun if someone broke into your house. They don't give you a warning.

>the power grid is owned by the crown
How does it feel having big brother breathing down your neck britfag?

How does it feel becoming bankrupt if you have cancer?

No, if won't help anyone why would I? There's no point in petty revenge.

>Hey betty!
>oh! hello user, you young whippersnapper!
> Haha! say did you see anything odd last night?
>Well, no not that i recall
>Oh, its okay
>If i may ask, why?
>Oh nothing. Just my entire famly was disemboweled during a satanic ritual in my sex dungeon and hung by their own intestines while still alive by some ass

>wife brutally raped and murdered
>petty revenge

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Op don't be dumb

Your argument is pretty gay. Also the people are the government retard.

Are you the kind of person who thinks the purge is realistic? Most people who are murdered aren't murdered in their own home, and most people who break into your house are there to rob it, no blindly murder people. Do you honestly just think people are out to get you?

Yeah, fuck the fact that a dangerous killer is still out there and will probably kill again. At least those lovely toll roads to remind you it's all worth it.

>>its transportation
US system
>several companies own power generators
>several companies (usually different from the generation companies) own the grid
>generation companies sell power to grid companies
>grid companies sell power back and forth between each other
>grid companies sell power to consumers

>>do you pay for the sewers though? or the treatment plants that handle your turds?
yes
the city charges for water, irrigation, and sewer by use and the cost is separate from w/e taxes the city charges
there is no reason the city has to do that and a private corporation can't

all lines are privately owned
walking on the lines is trespassing

yup, government controlled medicine is so great
>mother's doctor tells her that 5 severe medical problems would be cured if she got a gastric bypass
>he insurance tells her that her employer chose to drop cosmetic coverage to manage cost hikes due to obamacare
>doctor saying it is medically necessary and not cosmetic doesn't matter

>sister has diabetes
>has to plan supplies a month out bc it takes that long for the insurance to OK the supplies as covered
>obamacare goes into affect
>sister now has to plan supplies 3 months out bc it takes that long for the insurance and government to OK them as necessary and covered
yup, not relying on your own means for medical needs is so much worse than government taking care of it

a standing army (because of the cost) incentives its government to go to war to justify the cost
a pervasive civilian militia prevents that while providing a deterrent against potential invaders

But these things can't be maintained if there are no funds to maintain them. That's part of what your taxes go toward.

>Most people who are murdered aren't murdered in their own home
But they're still murdered and it's probably better to have a police force for that kinda thing.

Why would that happen? Do you think that big greedy corporations could exist with government regulations stagnating competition? Do you think the government cares about you any more than anyone else?

>mfw the 12$ taken out of my paycheck for medicare is literal tyranny
>mfw we need people to think for themselves and fend for themselves
>mfw we gotta put christianity back in the public forum
>mfw

Yeah, because businesses and corporations looking to profit off of people having cancer really fucking care about you

Wait, so your saying the government is what makes medical treatment expensive, and if they werent around you'd be better off? The fuck?
Do you think the government cares about you any more than anyone else?
Well they care enough to take of the sick and old.

PIs are more effective than police at finding the actual perpatrator
why?

PI
>hired by the family who wants the perpetrator caught and stopped

cops
>justify their paycheck by getting convictions, regardless of actual guilt

You mean Chinese...

% of US debt is chinese owned

> I believe you should have the right to not pay taxes. You just can't get anything they give you, including help from police, ambulance, and firefighters.
> be a nigger and sign up for government cheese and live in da projects.
And then you can't get anything they give you, including help from police, ambulance, and firefighters.
I think you two are in agreement.

Are you retarded? Do you think the police have some sort of magic that makes them better at tracking down criminals? If someone is murdered in your neighborhood people won't just sit in their homes like a bunch of pussies like you, the government isn't special just because it's run by some old cuck. People don't like having murderers around, and it isn't exactly easy for a murderer to completely avoid everyone else. Also, why couldn't there be a more localized police type force? Why do you have to control as much as you possibly can? You do realize that the government hasn't existed for all eternity as some kind of seperate force guiding humanity, if people want something done they can usually do it.

Do you think people couldn't do anything? What divine powers do the police have exactly?

>your argument is pretty gay
What a great point you made there

For moving violations, maybe...?

Stop being dramatic and take your meds. We don't live in Alex Jones' prison planet.

Do you even leave your house or dorm... Ever?

Well if people want them they'll pay for them.

>Do you think the police have some sort of magic that makes them better at tracking down criminals?
What are forensics?

where the fuck do you live that PIs are hired for traffic violations?

- Police have no requirement or obligation of protection. Their job is to maintain order.
- Ambulance bills... they're real and you do have to pay them.

> Fire fighter
We do send a bill, it just usually goes to your homeowner's insurance/landlord's insurance

>What are forensics?
usually done by private companies that are regulated and hired by the government
so once again you have shown that the government is an unnecessary middle man

Well you could have some form of police. That doesn't mean that it has to be run by people thousands of miles away who could give less of shit about my well being.

transgender people are against separate restrooms because they recognize it is discriminatory. the double standard is set by fear mongers who don't have a living memory of segregation

>Well if people want them they'll pay for them.

well thats what taxes are for. I want them and I pay for them

I was talking about POLICE retard. If you're the guy I replied to, I'm referencing be comment about "police getting convictions regardless of guilt."

Read more.

>Ambulance bills
in my state ambulances are run by private companies
occasionally a city will throw a couple thousand a year at an ambulance company in exchange for the company promising to have at least one vehicle and crew standing by at all times
also, ambulance charges are rarely covered by insurance as they are not directly medically related

You know America did this as our first form of government? No taxes didn't work.
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Not any less than the government, if people were all self centered pricks like you describe, the government wouldn't be helping you anyway. People aren't completely heartless, if someone is dying there going to help, it doesn't need to be maintained through a traditional capitalist system, people help you, and In return they can expect your help. As much as pseudo intellectual fedoras might want to believe differently, not everyone is a peice of shit.

>Read more.
be better at quoting to establish context

all departments in the US have it as SOP to suspend an investigation once the DA has filed charges
and unless there is severe pressure, no department will resume an investigation after the DA fails to get a conviction bc
>we got the right guy, the jury is just wrong

As long as that cop is pointing that gun to a nigger it is ok.

And so do most people. I'm not an ancap, I believe in some sort of anarchist form of socialism. Medical treatment wouldn't be any cheaper if it was provided by the government.

all 4 people in the pic are black

Like i said, they're real, and you do have to pay them

>implying you and betty's trust fund could pay for a single forensic analyst

So you're gonna collect the sensitive data yourself, hire a private lab, and do what with the results? The police have a huge database with DNA and personal info, you have google image search.

Be better at quoting and establishing context, you say... Context from a post that's under 50 words and contains one theme.... How about, be better at fucking reading comprehension and expecting people to spell out everything for you. You were obviously able to deduce what moving violations meant in the context of investigations. How you couldn't link that to the context of police, and "getting convictions" without any regard for due process of law makes you retarded.

Also, stop being an obtuse, hair-splitting end-the-fed armchair lawyer. You sound retarded, and nothing you're saying actually has a basis in the daily realities of law. Your mind is addled by the need to see everything in the framework of a conspiracy.

>implying lab fees aren't inflated bc they can charge the government w/e and get away with it
a lower capital pool for forensics will very quickly lead to improving tests to allow lower fees and still make a profit

Yeah but what if someone else doesn't want them? The only difference is that they wouldn't also pay for something if they don't use it. I doubt you'd lose anything.

They'd probably charge you and Betty more, since they know someone desperate to find a murderer will probably cough up the dough.

you were replying to a post about two different groups doing the same job and did not specify which group you were talking about

This is so stupid I will just move on. What kind of fuckwits are kids nowadays? Fucking idiot faggots.

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hoverboards, you idiot

You made zero arguments.

and in most cases the cops don't use those resources bc they are too expensive

also, what are data mining companies
all those DBs could just as easily be maintained by private companies

>and in most cases the cops don't use those resources bc they are too expensive
Source for cops refusing to solve murders because of money please.