"I was designed to save the world. People would look to the sky and see hope..."

>"I was designed to save the world. People would look to the sky and see hope..."
Apart from not being muh Ultron and quips, why is he hated again? He was great as a twisted version of Superman or capeshit in general.

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Honestly it really was the quips that fucked his character and that whole movie. Everyone was the same personality wise. Civil War did a much better job at characterization.

>Civil War did a much better job at characterization.
How?

Each character had their own personality and quirks about them. AoU everyone was an Iron Man level snarky bastard.

Joss Whedon's problem with writing is that every character talks with his voice.

he never felt that threatening or imposing despite being a seven foot tall genocidal robot

>He was great as a quiped version of Superman
ftfy

>hated
I thought he was a cool character with a distinct personality.

This.
When Eisenberg is more intimidating than your villain, you know you've fucked up.

i thought it was pretty good

Yall didnt like him? Except for how he goes out like a bitch, i thought he was the only good part of the movie

he was OK, but he honestly could have been 1000x better

Eisenberg couldn't intimidate a kitten if he had a sack and a brick.

He tried to be threatening once the twins left him, but "durr oh for god's sake xd". Fucking Marlel, imagine how better things could have been if they stayed with Paramount.
There are strange parallels between Ultron and Lexeinberg.

>Do you see the beauty of it? The inevitability? You rise, only to fall. You, Avengers, you are my meteor. My swift and terrible sword and the Earth will crack with the weight of your failure. Purge me from your computers; turn my own flesh against me.... It means nothing! When the dust settles, the only thing living in this world, will be metal.

I will never understand the Ultron was shit meme.

In the hands of anyone else besides Whedon, he would've been amazing.

Great character basis, great VA choice. I love Douglas and Rudd, but it's a legit fucking shame we never got a younger Pym, the interactions between the two, handled by the right people, are the best.

they wasted Spader on a quipmachine, and his design was way too human like, was hoping he would be a lot more menacing

>and his design was way too human like
Yeah, would have prefered him to evolve with each suit, but i think the point is that he ironically embodies everything wrong with human race.

Whedon and Snyder are basically the same in terms of whiffed execution and wasted potential. At least Marvel cut out their cancer, DC needs to do the same.

I liked him. I thought he was great.

He just never stood a chance unfortunately and wasent a credible threat. They should have made him far stronger and more durable.

>he never felt that threatening or imposing
Because he was a an scared bratty child, a deformed version of his father. It's not that hard to understand.

Reminder some neckbeard probably still has ultron stored on a USB next to some lisa ann porn, without even knowing.

Gonna take a page out of the DC fan playbook: Y'all didn't understand him. He wasn't written like the version from the comics or as an all-serious Darth Vader type villain. He was written as a dark juxtaposition of Tony Stark, and as a walking, talking contradiction.

His mannerisms were meant to be bizarrely human and petty in contradiction with his origins and appearance.

So, Ultron can appear in that video and fuck her?

I thought he was good but in trailers it seemed like he would be a really difficult villain to beat. Vision kinda ruined any sort of threat he posed.
Also why didn't he just infect the internet?

No, but he can broadcast the video around the world with just a thought.

You know what, fuck you all, I like Spadertron, quips and all.

There are some great official concept arts of Ultron and they chose to go with one of the worst.

I honestly thought he was a cool villain. I just think it's fucking bogus that A) He is literally never mentioned until 30 seconds before he is an actual thing; they had like 9 movies to give some sort of inkling that this was coming and they did nothing to drop a hint, no after credits, no seeding it in Winter Soldier where basically they had a great opportunity. and B) They triple Kamehameha'd the nigger out of existence. I wish he was still around and that Marvel would stop killing their villains. Even if they let him live and he never came back I wouldn't even care.

Bonus: His "Age" was like a fucking weekend long if that.

I like how you can basically tell someone said they liked the bottom left but "make it look like he talks."

In all fairness though, I really did like how they captured le Blacklist man's facial quirks.

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the two arent even comparable. eisenbergs luthor was so shit that i honestly couldnt believe they didnt just make him a different character entirely. it was clear from the trailers that ultron was supposed to be much darker at first but for whatever reason they scrapped that and went tony 2.0. he was still a better villain than luthor though

Test audiences said Ultron was too scary and they went the opposite way.

Top row 3rd from the left would have been my choice.

>too scary

If I were the focus tester for that audience, I would have said "Yep, choose the scary one."

ultron was good, the movie was shit though

It's just painful how good AoU could have been if they just got a different director.
It had GOAT soundtrack, GOAT villain, we finally had the Kooky Quartet on screen...
Fuck you Whedon.

Completely agreed. I feel like Whedon just said "Fuck it" because it's not one of his shitty cult classic things.

It's funny looking at concept arts of new characters and seeing when they start thinking of one actor.

I like the top left 2

Mah nigga

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It wasn't the quips. They quips would have been fine if Ultron had actually felt threatening, like he was a real danger to the team. He never did. They blew through his robot minions like they were made of tissue paper, Ultron Prime only put up a slightly better fight, and they foiled his world-ending plot without a single on-screen casualty.

He came across as ineffectual. Loki accomplished more than he did in a shorter span of time.

>they foiled his world-ending plot without a single on-screen casualty.
This, i wanted to leave when Fury appeared out of nowhere with a bunch of helicarriers.

Quips were the least of this guy's issues. He's just generic marvel baddy #13 who wanted to destroy the world and wipe out humanity.

>He's just generic marvel baddy #13 who wanted to destroy the world and wipe out humanity.

not the real ultron

>without a single on-screen casualty.
It's amazing how people always forget Quicksiver

Worst thing about Age of Ultron is that Ultron never seemed like a credible threat. Even when the city was flying in the air about to drop.

His minions kept getting cut through like butter and he had multiple destructible forms.

Loki had a real army with massively greater threats like those flying worm dragons and was only defeated through that awful blow up a ship to kill all the bad guys at once cliche.

Yellowjacket was more of an Ultron than Ultron.

There isn't anything wrong, storywise, with Tony creating Ultron.
It could be great seeing Tony struggle with being a "father" with his tremendous daddy issues and Ultron echoing those same issues with Stark.
What we did get was a Memebot.
I like Age of Ultron regardless.

He did.
Vision fixed that.

This is a lie.

the fact aou wasn't panned by critics proves how all movie reviewers are trash

His design is too anthropomorphized, that was the biggest mistake

this

>Each character had their own personality

Barely, Scarlet Witch, Black Widow, Agent something felt like they had interchangeable pesonalities.

Then two out of 3 black men were comedic relief just like Hawkeye, Ant-man and Spider-man.

If they didn't use those huge amounts of expository dialogues you wouldn't know about them as characters

''lol Budhapest! character development you guys! He is fast and she is weird, that explains everything!''

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top row, 2nd and 3rd look the best

That's not Ultron or threatening.

Because a 20 seconds ''deep'' dialogue is nothing compared with 2 hours of shit dialogue.

Spader did great voice work to Ultron. I know people hated his quips, but I always thought his personality was supposed to be Tony Starkish

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>hes suppose to be lame, he's like stark

Stop with this meme

>Then two out of 3 black men were comedic relief
Err no.

Quips was the main problem with this movie

I've watched Age of Ultron three times and it gets better with each viewing. It's an impressive achievement, it remains coherent and well-paced despite the large number of characters in it. The action is good, the events that take place make sense, people's motivations make sense, there is character development for everyone... shit, even Jarvis gets character development. In fact he *becomes* a character. It's a good movie. I don't know what people expected Ultron to be like, I only know the design vaguely from Secret Wars, but he made a good entrance and exit.

They completely changed his character.

He's a machine that just keeps getting stronger and more dangerous the longer he exists because he cannot accept the fact that he was originally programmed with human brainwaves, which creates his flawed relentless state of never being satisfied with the next improvement he makes to himself in line. He makes the Avengers do pretty horrific morally challenging things in order for them to stop him every time because he legitimately becomes that much of a threat.

In the movie he's a quip machine like stated above. Whedon thought giving him an amicable disturbed personality would make him interesting. It didn't and he fucked the whole character up, including the iconic visual design from the comics so James Spader could come off more as a believable quip machine.

So...someone changed his pants?

Wow, that's some concept art

The design itself is character assassination. Why would a robot that hates humans to a genocidal degree make himself as human as possible. He's 100% comfortable with the fact that he's got human in him

He hates what humanity is doing, if he hated them completely the twins would've been dead before the third act. He sees himself as a perfect version of the human race.

That's a "muh Ultron" criticism. The choice was made because we've had too many nihilistic killer death robots since this character was first created, not because lol Whedon.

cause he was shit played by a shit actor doing a shit accent.

for a movie called Age of Ultron, Ultron got the least amount of screentime. everytime he appeared on screen Thor or hulk smashed him offscreen and then ignored him while they fought robots for 15 minutes