Eternal Real Madrid Thread

Why aren't we buying anyone? Barca is making good moves on the transfer market again, Bayern has amazing, balanced squad and Ancelotti can make them play like they did under Heynckes again, Premier League will be full of great managers and it will be hard to compete with them on the transfer market soon because they'll make so much money from TV, Juve wants to spend big and go for CL win, PSG starts new exciting project...

And what does Perez do? Nothing. Morata, Asensio, Coentrao, really? Please. We need a DM to compete with Casemiro, Kante and Krychowiak were cheap and available, but noooo. Ronaldo is injured + he was already pretty much useless apart from the Wolfsburg game last season, he will be even more annoying now after his injury. This is also the last window to make big moves before the transfer ban.

We should've bought Kante and launched a massive campaign to buy Hazard as a replacement for aging CR, it would be easier to get him thanks to Chelsea not being in CL. A left back would be nice too, but Coentrao is injured so we can't sell him anyway, might as well keep him and use Nacho on LB while he's injured to give Marcelo some rest.
Chelsea was giving crazy money for Morata, who is and always will be mediocre, why not sell him? Make a profit and buy some other striker in his place, maybe Gomez? Good option for a season or two, different player profile than Benzema, could offer new tactical choices for Zizou.
Also sell James if he won't stop being such a spoiled retard. Profit from him and Morata would easily be enough to buy Hazard, striker and DM.

Why does Perez always ruin it when we have a great team? He did it in 2003, he did it 2 years ago and now he will do it again. Rememer the transfer ban we NEED to make big moves this year if we want to compete with the best. Our key players are getting old, Ronaldo is finished, Bale and Modric are injury prone... Fuck.

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>We need a DM to compete with Casemiro

You could've gone full /treason/ and try to buy Kranevitter from Atlético, but too late, he's in Sevilla now

Also
>we

>THAT flag
>THAT club
kek

But your team just won the champions league. Why not let them play next year with a bit of continuity?
Have you ever considered Real Madrid's inability to consistently win the CL may be because of constant squad turnover, paying more attention to buying big names instead of allowing chemistry to develop?
Maybe, just maybe, letting this team grow naturally is a good idea.

>donaldo is done
>donaldo is finished
>donaldo ends season with 50+ goals
Every time. It'll eventually happen, I guess.

RM needs to sell, first of all. Starting with James, who doesn't play under Zidane.

>Why aren't we

the fuck...

>continuity
>squad turnover
The problem is that Perez never replaces the positions that need to be replaced. Real has had their defensive core remain intact for almost 7 years, yet they cycle through midfielders (especially defensive minded ones) like nothing. Real seriously need a 09/10 transfer window. They need a new Alonso, Khedira, Di Maria, but I guess Perez thinks that young players of that quality isn't around right now.

eternal autism thread

I think they planned the whole transfer window on the premise that Morata would be sold for a good price.
Due to the lack of bids they aren't doing anything.

we need reserve left back, and DM. no changer in starting lineup, maybe someone for james if thet decide to sell this peace of shit
i like this more than selling 2 out of 3 starting midfielders after winning cl

i didn't know real madrid relocated to warsaw. neat!

He IS finished, let's no kid ourselves. He scores goals, but is completely useless in buildup. He did nothing last season except the Wolfsburg game. I don't care how many goals he scores against fucking Espanyol. He did nothing during the Euros except against Hungary and Wales. He did nothing in 2014 and 2016 CL finals. Real would be actually better without him now, I'm serious. If we don't get rid of him now he will become another Raul/Casillas. Untouchable despite shit form.

And the last league title was in 2012. Plus the transfer ban next year. We need to think about the future, make transfer moves before a crisis happens, to prevent it, not after when it's too late and we'll have to rebuild yet again.

I hate Perez, seriously. He always ruins it when we have a great team and then blames the manager after the inevitable bad season and fires him. He fired Ancelotti despite the fact that it was Perez who was to blame for 14/15 season, he sold 2/3 of our midfield (Di Maria and Alonso).

coentrao is coming back i think

>We should've bought Kante
Casemiro is better. We really dont need to spend so much money in a sub.
> massive campaign to buy Hazard as a replacement for aging CR
We alredy have a replacement for CR7 and is called Bale. I also think that Jese has the potential to be a great player,so I will give him a chance in the XI.
> why not sell him?
Ask Zidane. Or maybe Florentino wants more local trained players as a marketing strategy. I would have sold him for sure.
> Why does Perez always ruin it when we have a great team?
Greed. But Floren is a great team builder too. This Madrid squad is the best one in a while. I would let Zidane do more singings though. He has a great eye for young players

>lack of bids
Chelsea offered like 65-70 mil for him. It's crazy. Money's not the problem, as I said, a shitton of money could be made from selling Morata and James.

this guy knows what's up

Again, remember the transfer ban. The team that we'll have in September will be the one we will have to use for the next 2 seasons. That's why we need to think about the future. It's entirely possible that we will waste 2 years, and after that there won't be any good options on the market. There ARE good options now. THIS is the time to make big moves, THIS is the time for Perez to do his thing and buy a replacement for Ronaldo, THIS is the time to make sure our bench is packed with good, promising players. We need to be ready for a possibility of Ronaldo being shit after this injury, we need to be ready for the inevitable injuries to Modric and Bale. We have only one DM in the whole squad. We need a substitute striker better than Morata.

yes but he is so injury prone. alredy out until november i would like to had someone more relying

>. Real has had their defensive core remain intact for almost 7 years
Not really. But Real's defence is probably one of the best in Europe,so I really dont see the issue here.

>he was already pretty much useless apart from the Wolfsburg game last season

He's been your top scorer for about 5 years in a row, how goddamned spoiled are you?

>Chelsea offered like 65-70 mil
Source? That is a borderline retarded price,for such a shit player

I doesn't matter if Casemiro is better, he's the only DM in the squad, if he gets injured or loses form our entire midfield will collapse

Jese is finished after his injury, he had potential but it's clear that he has a mental block now, he's just pacy winger now. There's also Lucas, and I like the guy, he plays with heart, but in terms of skill he's a substitute material, not good enough for starting XI.
Bale is just one wing, we need world class player on the other side. This may be the only chance to get Hazard, if Conte will rebuild Chelsea then it will be impossible to buy him. It would be hard now too, but it's possible.

i'm more afraid of CB situation, Pepe is alredy 33 and can become shit soon and Varane isn't making any progress

RM senpaitachi are so dumb thinkingvthey can just replace cristiano. the only fuckup he made this season was not scoring an extra goal in one of the draws to win the league. I can name about 4 games off the top of my head where Madrid would have lost without him

>He did nothing last season except the Wolfsburg game

top kek, and btw that moment literally saved real madrid's season

stop looking at the number of goals, and instead look at the pitch and opponents he scores against. It used to be that Ronaldo carried the team, now the team carries Ronaldo. He does more bad than good now for the team. We would still beat Espanyol and Malmo without him, someone else would score those goals. But imagine suddenly being threatening from free kicks again. Imagine left winger/AM that is actually useful in buildup play and works hard for the team.

stop with free kick meme, bale and james makes them if position is right for left footed player and there isn't any right footed free kick specialist in real

>I doesn't matter if Casemiro is better, he's the only DM in the squad, if he gets injured or loses form our entire midfield will collapse
Agree,but buying Kante would be a waste,and he will probably want to leave for being subed so much. I would preffer to buy a veteran player that accepts to be a sub,than Kante. Maybe even try to re-buy Alonso,if Kroos ends up leaving.
> Jese is finished after his injury, he had potential but it's clear that he has a mental block now, he's just pacy winger now.
I dont know. I still see potential in him. The few times that he played,he did a fine job.
>we need world class player on the other side
Over stacking doesnt mean success. I preffer to buy a player that fits on the team over stars,and Hazard isn't that player in my opinion.

Ramos, Pepe, Marcelo, Arbeloa who just left this year, all have starters at Madrid for 6+ seasons, quite a long time in footballing terms. Not even including shitters like Coentrao who can't seem to fuck off.

>imagine suddenly being threatening from free kicks again

Do you even watch your own team? Bale or James take free kicks from the right side and they're both excellent at it.

Why does Real buy Griezmann? Weaken their cross-town rival on top of everything?

Didn't read lol

Kante CHOSE Chelsea over Madrid, and as much as it bugs me, I dont blame him.

Won't have to deal with racist chants and his own fans whistling at him when he has a bad performance.

Shud bring in Brozovic and turn him into a DM or even that Pjaca kid he reminds me of Di Maria could play him centrally like in '14

if not Hazard then how about Mata? He's available, he's a madridista, he plays on the right position. At worst he would be a good substitute.

Jese should be loaned out and play regularly for another spanish team. If he plays good and develops as a player there let's buy him back. If he stays he won't improve, he won't play enough.

literally every other right footed player in the squad would score more often from free kicks than Ronaldo. Ramos is actually pretty good FK taker. Kroos and Modric would surely score at least once in a while.

anyone who watch espanyol can tell me if he's good enough to become valuable player from the bench?

>Arbeloa
He was mostly a sub. But we have had players like Carvalho,Albiol or Derenthe in that bracket. Is just that Pepe,Ramos and Marcelo have done a great job.

It is hard to negotiate with Atletico. Besides Griezman is happy there it seems.

i think it's more staying in the league that he alredy know and proven to be great in and he don't have to learn another language

Also Zizou better handle the Morata situation properly. Its even funny how he took his old number he had before he left, like are we just going back to how it was haha with him on the bench lmao

I like Benz alot and I like Morata too since hes Spanish but as crazy as it sounds Morata shud start over Benz if hes gonna stay

>how about Mata?
I like Mata,but since Moutinho imploded Chelsea,he has been pretty subpar.
> Jese should be loaned out and play regularly for another spanish team
Espanyol is interested on this. But if Cr7 starts getting injured more often,Jese would be needed,unless we buy another player.

>Morata shud start over Benz if hes gonna stay
Why? Benzema is great for Madrid's playstyle.

Hazard? RM doesn't need a Belgian choker, RM needs winners.

>barca get a transfer ban
>happens straight away

>madrid gets one
>randomly vanishes

makes you think.......

Meh both teams have alot of French speakers and hes not a little kid but either way who cares

Im sure theyll sign ppl in August, theres still a bunch of unused squad numbers like 18 24 25 and 6 if Nacho leaves. Thats the one person I dont want to leave plz Nacho stayyyy

if you weren't stupid frog poster you would know that barco situation was exacly the same

Benzema is one of my favorite players dude but why bring back Morata to the same shit he left because of.... maybe play with 2 strikers and no #10?????

REAL MADrid finlly understood that buying players every year is nonsens, this new season they will do de "Barcelona maneuver" and put their budget on buying the refs, it's cheaper and you get more trophies.

>Kante

He was wanted by two other clubs so he probably rejected Real. It could be that he prefers London to Madrid or perhaps hes following in the footsteps of his French compatriots such as Diarra and Makelele who went to Chelsea. Either way, he's with >us despite the fact that we have no CL, that says a lot.

>Hazard

He said he'll stay at Chelsea and aim for the CL but also said it won't be his final club. I think he's waiting for Ronaldo to have two more seasons there before swooping in as the perfect replacement.

He'll be 27 by then and probably the first player to win the Ballon D'or that isn't Messi or Ronaldo. Of course going to Madrid will require great performance at Chelsea.

Gareth Bale, Pogba and Neymar will all be competing for the Ballon D'or in the future, and Chelsea might bring Hazard's chances of winning down.

TLDR; Real will never sign Kante but will sign Hazard in two years provided Chelsea do not win anything significant trophy and he performs well for Chelsea.

>at Chelsea
>won't have to deal with racist chants

lol

>Hazard
>replacement for Ronaldo

If Mou wants to get rid of Rojo, Blind, and Scweinsteiger, just bring em all to Madrid. Problem solved.

finally an eternal real thread

hello lads I am from ottawa I have watched literally every single real game since Ronaldo joined them. it has been a period of immense disappointment and immense elation.

who are your favourite players on the squad lads?

1. based luka
2. jese
3. marcello
4. ramos
5. el peep
90000001. tony kroos (anyone else hate this sideways passing fuck?) also ironically the only good game he has this season (CL final) he gets subbed out for terribly out of form Isco. Man if Real loses that game I blame zidane and I'm furious about that substitution. the benzema sub wasn't good either. I just don't trust vasquez or a lot of the young lads except Jese

>Ramos, Pepe, Marcelo, Arbeloa who just left this year, all have starters at Madrid for 6+ seasons, quite a long time in footballing terms.
Those first 3 might be the all-time greatest backline trio in history. Such a pleasure to watch. Even Arbeloa (just went to Milan) was very solid, he was a on all those great Spain teams

I wouldnt want anyone else taking corner kicks other than Toni. Just cuz u dont get it doesnt mean he isnt exceptional. Watch his movement off the ball and how he creates space for his teammates.

>we
>Polen

Maybe he looks so average because he plays next to the world's best midfielder

He's also slow

1 Pepe
2 Modric
3 Marcelo
4 Lucas

Don't really care about the rest, Arbeloa was great guy but he's leaving now

I've also watched every single Real game since Ronaldo joined them, except it was the brazilian Ronaldo in my case.


For all those people saying that Kante rejected Real and chose Chelsea - Zidane was supposedly interested in him, but maybe it was just press rumours, anyway no offer was made. Chelsea moved in quickly and bid high over his release clause to get him. But he didn't have any offers from Madrid on his table yet. I doubt he would choose Chelsea over Real now, I mean Real just won CL while Chelsea had disastrous season

goodness that's a long time. who were your favorite players during the fat ronaldo-fit ronaldo period?

also you don't care for Ramos? he's a living god after basically winning us 2 decimas

>jese
>liking le autistic raggaeton man

. . . .

Javi Martinez would be a perfect fit a CDM that can play CB also Rodriguez would be nice

tbqh Ramos is the most inconsistent and prone to fucking up of the three CBs.

Though I won't deny that he was god tier against Bayern and in the two finals.

>having arguqbly the best midfielder in world and not enjoying it

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Koke: Has made more key passes (75) than any other player in the last 3 CL seasons; Toni Kroos second (72)

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Koke has created 17 chances in the Champions League knockout stages. Only Kroos has managed more (18).

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Most chances created in the Champions League this season: Neymar (34) T. Kroos (30) P. Lahm (29) Koke (29)

SOMEONE SHOULD TELL FLORENTINO THAT REAL HAS A TRANSFER BAN
THEY NEED TO SIGN SOMEONE FOR FUCKS SAKE

my fav players between 2002-2009 were Casillas, Zidane, Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, van Nistelrooy and Guti

although I must say I will love and remember the entire 06/07 team for the rest of my life, even Emerson and Cassano. It's still the best season of my life, only Decima in 2014 comes close, but I was somehow even happier in 2007. The finish of that league season is among the best sports moments in history.

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I have a love-hate to that time tho
>7 years of perennial round of sixteen exit

They had a lot of heart but they weren't really that good aside from Van Nistelrooy. How the fuck could they choke away a 2-0 lead against Recreativo or allow Mallorca to score in the Bernabeu in the goddamn most important match of the year.

And they won that Liga mostly due to Barcelona choking. It's really a shame that the 2011-2016 teams have only managed one.

I still dont know how the 2013/2014 team didnt won la liga

>It's really a shame that the 2011-2016 teams have only managed one.

They get help from the refs whenever they're in trouble, we pretty much need another 11/12 100 point season to win the league. Just have to completely steamroll it, otherwise, if the race is close, Villar-Gaspart mafia will always help Barca

It took a while for Ancelotti to find a new team that worked well after Florentino replaced Ozil with Bayol

Then the injuries down the stretch of the season of Donaldo, Bayol and Benzema meant that the only person who could score goals was Ramos since Morata was incapable of scoring until he went to Juve

>immense disappointment

Oh boo hoo, only 1 league title and 2 CL titles in 7 years.

in terms of league titles this is a disastrous period for Real, they have to win the league next season, no more excuses

>Real Madrid unveil classic new home kit for the 2016/17 season
I like the collar. Bayern also going with collared shirt this year

>not liking reggaeton
do you even play in the mud ?

Official whch round of 16 exit hurt the most rankings:

>1. 2010 against Lyon
Kaka and Ronaldo looked like they were going to bring a new era of glory, they were on a great Liga form and the opponent looked beatable on paper, then Real gets outplayed badly in Lyon, and Higuain chokes away a golden chance to make the game 2-0 in the return leg

>2. 2008 against Roma
Unlike the previous three teams they managed to finally top their group, they were steamrolling La Liga in an incredible way, played incredibly well in Roma despite the loss only to end up with half the team in the hospital when the second leg came and play pathetically against a team that Manure would end up raping

>3. 2007 against Buyern
Ramos's disallowed goal that could have won the tie

>4. 2009 against Liverpoo
Losing 5-0 was embarassing even for that shit team that had fucking Drenthe as a starter in a Clasico

>5. 2005 against Juventus
Fucking Trezeguet.

>6. 2006 against Arsenal
Overrated memeacticos at their worst, couldn't top their group, only lost 1-0 against a legit good team

Stats don't mean much in football, especially a midfielder I mean I watch the games and the players most involved with creating a chances in the midfield and building up play are modric and Marcelo. Kroos usually just passes sideways to one of them . Don't confuse his enhanced role with the German team to that which he has at club level

lots of reports RM want Portugal midfielder André Gomes
he'd cost at least 20M (Valencia bought him for 15M and are supposedly demanding 65M and supposedly rejected a 40M bid from Chelsea/Conte)

I think you're to in love with Modric and it makes you sad Kroos takes over games that Modric used to take over. Both a great, world-class players, you're dumb not to enjoy either of them, especially Kroos in your case

He's very good, but not €65M good.

This new tv money guzzling into the PL is jacking up asking prices to insane levels

so what if I'm in love with modric? I mean he's so nice and has that boyish charm and is a great football. I mean who wouldn't love him? d-do think he might give me a shot ?

>la liga refs
>not helping real

This delusion

it's not the 50's anymore, Perez and Villar had a MAJOR fallout in 2004, after that Villar got in bed with Barca. Gaspart is a former Barca president and open antimadridista and he's Villars right hand.

Also, you just have to watch both Barca and Real in the league every week to see clearly who's more favoured. Real gets few favorable calls every season, but nowhere near as much as Barca. Check out how many goals from offsides they scored last season, it's fucking criminal at this point. Nothing new too, remember Ovrebo, remember Stark. Mafia club.

Modric is great. So is Kroos. Modric is getting up their in age so it will be interesting to see who replaces him alongside Kroos in RM's future. Someone also great I'd assume. RM is one of the most loaded teams in history right now. RM fans shouldle extremely happy right now other than their depth/2nd string at certain postions. Morata's growth will be interesting.

morata's scoring record is dismal compared to benzema. I hope there isn't conflict

morata said he will not accept being the second choice. he's delusional and i'd prefer to have him sold as I find him insanely overrated

Kevin never finish games and always gets injured, Morata will have enough time to play
Modric is so fucking good m8 like 100M good tbqh Kovacic is there tho so I hope Zidane gives him more game time and rest Modric

>Modric 100M

yeah like half that at most. He's in his 30s now

other opinions:

Modric
50M Transfermarkt
less than 28M - CIES (pic related

Kroos
58M - CIES (pic related)
50M - Transfermarkt

some of the prices these english clubs have paid for shite is outrageous

God you are retarded.

The most important thing in a team is how the players complete an engine so they play as a team.

Maybe you can buy a better LB than Marcelo, but the guy is funny and all that bullshit, he makes his teammates happy.

This is not FM, is true that Florentino is retarded, that RM buys meme players instead of scouting good and less expensive players, but football isn´t like you think.

>Harry Kane worth more than Suarez
In what fucking world?

He's younger and he's proven to be good I guess, Suarez is at his peak at the moment. Also he's English so his actual value is probably 30mil less than what is actually stated

this

make this a regular thread

>He'll be 27 by then and probably the first player to win the Ballon D'or that isn't Messi or Ronaldo
haha oh fuck you are deluded

>he did nothing
>except in those crucial make or break matches
get out

>We need a DM to compete with Casemiro
what about William Carvalho?

why even buy anyone? they'll have the easiest possible draw in the CL again, that's the part of the "keeping donaldo till he's 40 and need easy draw so he looks good" pack perez subscribed to

>real madrid general
>haha time for memes and shitposting
>it ends up being of the most football relevant footy thread on Sup Forums with actual discussion

at last i truly see

opinions about him? according to spain media real is close to buy him but barcelona also in that race. big talent like neymar or meme player like robinho?

Think the usual bizarro Sup Forums thread morphed and took over the entire board.

Bored at work
Talk about Madrid

Supposedly Andre Gomes is the main transfer target this summer, why is Perez so retarded? Why the fuck would he buy another CM when we have only one DM in the squad and if he gets injured we'll have to move our entire midfield deep on our own half? This already happened in 14/15 after Alonso and Di Maria left, Kroos playing too deep.

Also can't wait for Benz to get injured so Morata gets exposed.