that argument makes no sense. stop trying to deflect. you're a fucking coward. own up to it.
Ian Clark
Right, because eating properly and exercising regularly makes me a coward. Health at every size, am I right? Guess I'll just smoke 3 packs a day, since lung cancer is just a myth made up by communists.
Josiah White
Death by snoo snoo > 100.000%
Jason Robinson
more deflection.
Michael Thompson
Not an argument.
You're most likely to die by heart disease or cancer, so it makes sense to reduce the risk of getting those.
Ryan Bailey
cancer and heart disease are also scary, OP
Austin King
listen, idiot, those are there as cross reference.
when everyone eats healthy, cancer and heart disease are cured or whatever, then accidents become the most common. get it? that will never change.
Isaac Fisher
Nationwide stats don't reflect the stats of individual neighborhoods. If you live in a shitty place, the %'s go up.
And they would still be low, but we take into account the severity of the risk. If you're terrified of the result or it would otherwise be devastating, even a 0.2% chance may make you cautious.
But nah, we're all irrational and everyone is dumb and you're the only smart person in the world.
Benjamin Fisher
Your point? It will still result in less deaths per year.
Christopher Gray
it's not abuot smart. it's about being a coward or not.
neighborhoods don't change the top 10 stats much. maybe suicide, but that's entirely preventable by you personally.
niehborhood also doesn't affect terrorist chance of death, since this is completely chosen at random it seems, based on opportunity.
in detroit, probably the worst city for this shit, your chance of being involved in a violent crime is 1.88 %
so yeah, still pretty low but certainly something to be concerned with.
which also means, of course, that detroit is affecting the stats for the rest of the country.
Levi Carter
all it will do is shuffle the top causes of death around.
i guess you can make the case that it's better to die from a quick accident then lingering heart disease. but once you're dead, it really doesn't matter what killed you does it?
Nathaniel Mitchell
You don't seem too worried about heart disease you fat fucks
Nathan Jackson
Chance of death for all people: 100%
Josiah Hill
Fear is a lubricant for businessmen.
Colton Peterson
baltimore is actually worse, my mistake. 189 homicides in 2015
death by homicide if you live in detroit: 0.030% chance
William Gomez
fuck, baltimore i meant
Jose Peterson
exactly. you'll die from one thing or another. probably the worst way to die is slowly getting worse and worse physically and mentally, degrading more and more, your body losing it's ability and mobility more and more, until you can't function any more.
Michael Rogers
Lack of fear is a cash cow for the medical industry
Brandon Phillips
stop trying to justify your cowardice. just accept it.
Chase Walker
Who said I'm afraid?
Jose Morales
if you aren't, you wouldn't have posted this
Joshua Thompson
It's not about fear
It's about ideology
Nathaniel Bailey
No u.
Isaiah Morgan
The joke's on you, I eat healthy and exercise at least 3 times a week.
Easton Flores
explain please.
Kayden Wright
joke's on you. eating healthy, exercising and you STILL have a 0.00000006% chance of gettnig killed by a terrorist.
stay afraid
Andrew Bennett
I live in Europe so that chance is probably higher than that.
ayy lmao
Gabriel Sanders
The chance of being killed by an ar-15 is pretty low, so why ban them?
Colton Perez
yeah exactly
why ban anything right? why not let people run around with bazookas and tanks.
Daniel Ortiz
What about death by AR15? How many bullets are there? And how many people are writing names on it with a sharpie?
Angel Morgan
The chance of getting killed by a nuke is far lower. Let's just go ahead and issue those to uneducated redneck retards too.
You know, because "muh secund 'mendmint".
Liam Campbell
Holy fuck. 0.18% chance? Either use chance or percentage. They're different things.
Nathan Hughes
hard to say looks like 2016 is going to be particularly gruesome. let's say, at approximate 10 deaths a week
oh let's say 1000 people in 2016 in europe dead from terrorism.
population of europe is 742 mil
it's something like 0.00013% chance
10,000 deaths in 2016 just takes one more decimal place off that number
Matthew Wood
Well it's the threat of a foreign force
Realistically at this rate islam can not take over the west, but if there are too many muslims and the extremist ideology takes hold it can have drastic consequences
Similarly to the american fear of communism, it wasn't fear of dying but the fear of submitting to a foreign ideology
People feel threatened because their ideology is, although most people don't understand this as its largely subconscious Personally I don't believe the fear of terrorism is entirely unjustified
Charles Cook
true. good point. thanks
Jacob Allen
it's more like 0.0001% of the population dead from X. add 2 decimal places to get the other number.
Henry Gomez
How dare you come in here quoting facts. Not to mention you have the hide to back it up with links to sauce. Fuck off you beta fag. I'm going back to my bunker. Got guns to clean and muh preps.
Oliver Walker
Also leading zeros? I have to keep moving the decimal point over 2 in my head. Just say 18% will die of cancer.
Charles Perry
do you live on 10 cloverfield lane?
Juan Parker
no, for heart disease, for example, it's 600,000 out of 340mil so 0.17% of people will die from this each year.
Hudson Cruz
It was aliens, and he had to kill his son instead of nuking Boston. Pretty sure this is what I learned from the Internet
William Bailey
yeah but the freak just had a cellar anyway. probably had nothing to do with aliens when he set it up.
Nathaniel Cook
Right, but OP said 0.18% will die of cancer... Is that per year? He's implying the personal odds of death. I'd say I've got a 1 in 5 chance ATLEAST of dying from cancer
Logan Price
It's the fear that keeps those numbers down. Imagine everyone being brave. Those numbers will go up at least one order of magnitude.
Tyler Barnes
personally, of course, it depends on your habits. some areas are worse for cancer, too.
the cancer, heart disease stats were supposed to be benchmarks. the things you're not supposed to be afraid of are terrorists and cops.
i have a lake house with something that appears to be a prison cell in the basement. there's currently no door but there are two rooms beyond the doorway, a room with a toilet and beyond that is a shower room.
Jason Cruz
I'm arguing semantics of the OP. He said "chance of dying" a person's specific chance of death is very different from the percentage of people who die from X each year. You're "chance" of dying is 1.00%, but 1.00% of people don't die every year.
Logan Ramirez
*your Inb4 grammar fags
Easton Bell
I honestly don't care if you get stabbed. I don't want to die that way, so I don't go to nigger bars at 2am. You can call that cowardice. You have the same logic as the "this is what I was wearing when I was raped" feminists - that taking any action to prevent yourself being harmed is an outrage. KYS
Carson Anderson
I get what you're doing. You put a decent amount of effort in to it. BUT it's very confusing mixing percentage and chance and annual death rates as opposed to personal death rates.
18% of people that died in a given year did so of cancer. 0.0123% of people in that same year died from cops 100% of OP's are faggots
Xavier Diaz
ha ha true stats
Hunter Walker
been robbed three times stats are a joke >let me take a simple random sample from a shitty neighborhood said no statistician ever
Wyatt Peterson
>implying I can't have a 200 dollar tax stamp on my zooka >implying it doesn't cost a mere 500 bucks for live shells We CAN do these things, no one ever goes on a rampage in a live tank when bulldozers are more handy and readily upgrade-able to Killdozer levels >implying weapons of conventional warfare are actually more dangerous than bleach and ammonia that I can buy at my local grocery store with cash, stocked in the same isle as one another
Nathan Hughes
>it's not abuot smart. it's about being a coward or not. support your idiotic claim I don't accept this as fact so the rest of your bullshit isn't permissible as an argument until you've supported your own dumbass claim
Aiden Jones
I drove through Granby once
Brandon Lopez
i provided the links to back it up. if you can't be bothered to check, i don't know what to tell you
Logan Barnes
>be me >have license to carry gun >two guys tried mugging me at gas station >went to pull guy, they saw it and ran >now I always carry gun If it happened to me once it can happen again
Dylan Gutierrez
i've been robbed never. and i live in a big city
>personal anecdotes are a joke
Wyatt Kelly
>be me >don't have a gun >never been involved in a mugging >still don't carry a gun
it never happened to me and it never happened to 99% of the people in the US
Liam Watson
There are literally no links in the connected posts. You are retarded. I didn't ask you to support the numbers, btw, I asked you to support your claim that 'it's about being a coward or not'
define coward define it's make your criteria known so far you've been beating around the bush and claiming things left and right without any support. You have implied an awful lot but there has been no real statements
Wyatt Gutierrez
>big city != shitty neighborhood try again, mr. anecdote
Jaxon Brown
a coward is someone who is afraid of something that has statistically a zero percent chance of happening.
Zachary Clark
shittier than your average small town that dominates the landscape of the US
Luke Rodriguez
These numbers dont add up (or I am beyong retarded right now).
10 leading causes of death:
> Heart disease .18% According to the source is is 23% > Cancer (malignant neoplasms) .18% Source: 22% > Chronic lower respiratory disease > Accidents (unintentional injuries) .04% > Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases) > Alzheimer's disease > Diabetes (diabetes mellitus) > Influenza and pneumonia > Kidney disease (nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis) > Suicide (intentional self-harm). .013%
OH SHIT, AN ACTUAL RESPONSE So those men who retreat from war before ever firing a shot aren't cowards because there's an actual chance they'll die? A lot of people would contradict you on this point. Please, go on.
Josiah Cruz
Says you, bud.
Colton Johnson
if you to go to war, you should expect to be shot at. if you then get shot at and you run, then yes, that's another definition of coward.
we aren't talking about war in this thread but random events
hint: there isn't only one clean-cut black/white definition.
Ian Taylor
i mean, i agree it's less shitty in a city for many reasons. otherwise i wouldnt' live here. but in terms of crime and being around criminals, naturally there will be more of them in a more densely populated area
Nathan Nguyen
hint: you're using the wrong or inaequate wording if you have to further define your criterion after defining it once and being wrong. >moving the goal posts incarnate
Zachary Russell
There are also more people in that area. Stats tend to balance out the larger the sample size
Leo Lee
I don't get it... the chance of dying by it, per day, per year or per life time? cuz if it is life time then what do people die of? i have never known anyone dying without a cause
Sebastian Bennett
stick to the points in this thread and we'll both be fine.
it's not the % of people who died, it's the number of people in the US (340 mil or so) and the number of deaths for that thing (heard disease is 600,000 deaths)
600,000 is NOT 18% of 340 mil
Wyatt Ortiz
Okay None of these guarantee your chance of survival, they only improve it. >Cardio makes you a coward >Chemo makes you a coward >Wearing a hardhat makes you a coward (Unspecified accident, you coward) >Therapy makes you a coward >Keeping your head on a swivel and owning weapons makes you a coward >Being polite to an officer of the law makes you a coward >Not carrying cash makes you a coward >Having a home security system makes you a coward
Why are you such a coward? I bet you wear your seat belt in the car, coward
Hudson Morgan
Wow... I see. (Yes, I was retarted)
Parker Perez
the thing is as you age you can die from any number of things but the total number of one specific thing (parasitic infection for example) is very low.
Austin Gomez
retarded
Kevin Campbell
again, the cancer and heart disease numbers were suppoed to be used as benchmarks.
what you should not fear are terrorist attacks (even if they're muslims) or getting killed by cops (even if you're black)
Charles Evans
yes, if yuo wear a hard hat everywhere you go, you're a coward for sure. owning weapons does stem from fear, yes. being impolite to a police officer will not kill you. not carrying cash - well all these thngs at once, if you do them all, then you are for sure a coward, yes.
Julian Wright
All of this is based off of recorded statistics. Not random people that no one care about dying of CAD and if records show cause of death to be unknown. All of your numbers are wrong. Why you gay boi?
Christopher Reed
Your perception of the fear that takes place in external entities is entirely irrelevant to any meaningful discourse. I make this claim with support: You cannot accurately measure fear in another person or animal without being invasive (which the average person will not allow). Therefore you have no real basis upon which to build your argument that taking preventative steps makes you a coward. You also cannot make the claim that anyone is a coward, but yourself. Let me use you as the benchmark for retardation. See how it doesn't really hold up under scrutiny? I just wrote it to hurt your feelings. Seems to me that what I just did was very similar to this thread's OP
Parker Ward
if you react to something as if it's the most common thing in the world (terrorists for the right, cops for the left/minorities) when in fact it's a very rare occurence, then you're a coward.
you don't need to know what's in someone's heart.
look at the GOP convention, look at the BLM protests. it's all out of fear.
Camden Scott
hey it happens man. at least you admitted it, most people wouldn't.
Luis Torres
I'm not afraid. But these are deaths that can be prevented/avoided.
Isaiah Scott
yes, to a certain extent. but sudden violent death is a part of life we have to accept in the US. it's so low though, we don't need to base life decisions on it. that's the point. if you do, you're a coward.
Jordan Allen
>look at the GOP convention this happens every election Dems. do the same, too
emotions come from your Limbic system, not your Cardiovascular system. >muh heart colloquialism
BLM isn't fear, you dumbass, it's anger, it's hate Hence the shootings and the loss in productivity If it was fear you would see an alternative response to the 'snipers' and the rioting that we are seeing anger makes you strike out fear makes you escape or the fear turns into anger
you're not the one who decides what risk others face, you're not the one who decides who is irrefutably a coward you are the one to make yourself look retarded, tho keep it up, m8 im avin a giggle
Kayden Price
i can't find number of unknown deaths but i imagine it's probably just spread out over a number of the other causes and technology just hasn't reached the level yet necessary to detect properly.
interestingly, i bet we'll be able to make pretty good judgement in the future abuot a person's death from their status updates and movements.
Julian Myers
we;ll see if the democrat convention is all about fear. i doubt it though.
it's the fringe elements on both sides that live out of fear and cowardice. the republican candidate this time, trump, has appealed directly to them as a base. the democrats are actively sidestepping their minority fringe. bernie probably would have been more about fear.
i don't need to decide. the numbers are available and irrefutable.
Liam Roberts
I still don't get it... Are you talking per day, per month or year?
Henry Allen
the stats are per year.
Kayden Sanchez
I own weapons because they're fun to shoot, not because I'm in constant fear of everything. Having them would help in case of terrorists/home invasions but that's just a bonus to owning them. I carry a gun not because I expect or am worried I'm constantly going to get mugged or something, but just in case it ever did happen it's better to be prepared rather than not. I'm nice to police officers the same way I'm nice to everyone who is kind to me. The majority of gun owners aren't blathering hick retards and ghetto trash like you see alot in media. If just living the way I like and not bothering anyone makes me a coward in someone's eyes then so be it, clearly they need to feel superior for some reason or another.
Hudson Kelly
I find it interesting how you took an argument about semantics and positional concepts, and led it in a political direction. Having trouble focusing while you're simultaneously so retarded? I bet you identify as a Democrat, faggot. They're the ones always dragging the rhetoric down, especially after they realize not everyone shares the same opinion about common matters. Can't abandon the party when it's wrong or misguided, now. >identifying as one of any party
You're a faggot who probably believes your vote influences anything beyond your immediate locale, too. Hilarious.