So I saw The Hobbit in theaters, and to this day I am still confused.
When asked about the other wizards, he mentioned the 2 blue wizards.
Then says "I forgot their names"
The audience laughed, wholeheartedly, and I found it just really odd. It wasn't a joke and was just like the most autistic moment I've seen an audience have.
Maybe it's a nod to the fact that Tolkien forgot about them too
Jaxon Campbell
Because the blue wizards aren't named in Lord of the Rings and the filmmakers didn't have the rights to the books where they ARE named, so they made a funny maymay about it.
Christian Brown
Guys, what's the Halfling's Leaf? Remember in LOTR where Saruman says "Your love of the Halfings' leaf has clearly slowed your mind."
Is it DUDE WEED LMAO?
Jack Carter
It's the pipe weed Gandalf is constantly smoking I think
Blake Young
>so they made a funny maymay about it. Like in The Two Towers when Frodo and Sam are in Osgiliath and Sam says "by rights we shouldn't even be here!"
Tyler Morris
Yes but in The Hobbit+LOTR, "pipe-weed" IS Halfling's Leaf.
So I guess what I'm asking is, is the pipe-weed DUDE WEED LMAO?
Jackson Miller
King's Weed is tobacco that is argued that Halflings discovered, the argument is a dwarf also claims to have discovered it first, hence the name King's Weed, some dwarven king, but really it was Halflings that discovered it first.
And why not say it's like pot, it's got medicinal properties, which tobacco doesn't since it's a poison.
so
ya, it's like pot.
Julian Lopez
Nah it's some kind of tobacco
Charles Turner
Was there a maymay about it, I saw it opening day, and the audiance laughed at this odd point...
Ayden James
in the books - tobacco in lotr films - ambiguous, saruman says that but none of the characters seem affected by it in the hobbit - 420 brah *airhorn* blaze it lmao
Christopher Anderson
Explain?
Ryan Myers
But Saruman clearly says "Halfling's leaf has clearly slowed your mind".
Tobacco is a stimulant (of sorts), so how would that make one's mind get "slowed"?
DUDE Should I read the Simarillion if I want to find out about this or just the LOTR books
Gabriel Barnes
tobacco is a new world plant cannabis is an old world plant
take a guess
Carter Carter
>But Saruman clearly says "Halfling's leaf has clearly slowed your mind".
He only says this in the movie, not in the books where pipeweed is explicitly tobacco.
In short, it's not weed. It's some kind of tobacco
Ryder Martin
It was in the footnotes of my book, there was like a bit of a codex at the back of the book but I think King's Weed is an essential thing, since it's also what saves Bilbo's life. Since it had medicinal properties it's why it might not be seen as Tobacco like we know it... maybe a cross between the two...
Elijah Bennett
I always took it to be saruman just being a jerk "stop watching tv it rots your brain" "don't use a cellphone it gives you cancer" kind of thing.
None of the characters appear to get high, until the hobbit trilogy where they cross their eyes like cartoon characters.
Wyatt Gonzalez
King's weed is not pipeweed, it's a totally different plant that Aragorn uses as a healing remedy.
Josiah Howard
No. I laughed about it because I know they aren't named and I saw it opening day. Though only me and my friend got the joke in my group.
Lucas Rivera
I dunno when Bilbo and Gandalf are sitting there they seem pretty chill.
Jonathan Moore
They don't go to Osgiliath in the books.
Connor Wright
That's Kingsfoil your thinking off >tfw you realize you're an autist for knowing that of the top of your head
Logan Martin
This is why I ask if I should read the Simarillion or the LOTR books since I've only ever read The Hobbit.
Lincoln Hughes
Do you like incredibly long books? What about semi-finished books with little to no narrative?
Tyler Fisher
Yeah, this. Hitler hated tobacco. Hitler bad. Saruman bad. Saruman hates tobacco.
Bentley Sullivan
>yes >not as much
Andrew Hughes
Have you ever smoked a pipe full of high quality tobacco? It's chill as fuck.
Lincoln Kelly
Try LotR then. Silmarilion is more of an anthology of unrelated stories, it's not even meant to be taken too literally since it's effectively the "Elvish Bible", intentionally biased and from a non-authorial pov.
Jackson Mitchell
You reach turbo autist if you can tell me its other name with correct spelling
Dylan Bennett
Who are the 2 bLUE wizRDS?
Alexander Jenkins
>Athelas, the she-elf uses it on handsome-dwarf in The Hobbit ;_;
Bentley Taylor
Technically that's true of The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit as well.
Asher Adams
Pallando and Alatair, they went into the east and played no part in the events of Lord of the Rings.
Camden Jackson
Ok, thanks m8
Lucas James
See
Samuel Walker
True, but the in-setting authors of "the Hobbit" and "Lord of the Rings" (Bilbo and Frodo, respectively) not only lived thru the events they wrote about, they also tried to be as objective as possible. The stories of the Silmarillion are often "interpretations" or outright "poetic license", they make no effort to be objectively "true" or to relate events as they actually happened.
Jason Myers
Yes this is why I was ax'ing about the books
Adrian Morris
Alatar and Pallando are the Blue wizards. They're briefly mentioned in the book of lost tales by tolkien
Isaac Parker
shit I never got that
that's pretty funny
Ryder Ross
>turbo autist >for knowing something talked about in one of the most famous book trilogies in existence dude, I can spell Barad-dûr, I'm such a nerd lol
Wyatt Clark
No you're not
Isaiah Davis
Oh. My mistake.
Jordan Gomez
...
Tyler Cooper
asëa aranion
Lucas Reed
Writings of Bilbo, Frodo, Sam and the others were put together by unrelated scribes when a copy was made for the library of Minas Tirith, and there's presumably some historical distance between that and the material Tolkien 'translated' his books from. They were the equivalent of Venerable Bede serving as a source for a XIX century chronicler in Russia.
Hunter Stewart
>lotr films - ambiguous, saruman says that but none of the characters seem affected by it >he's never seen the extended version
Pleb detected. If you watch the extended scenes with Merry and Pippin it's 100% obvious it's a weed reference. They even get the munchies and discuss eating a shitload of elven bread, which couldve lasted them for literally weeks, in 1 sitting.
select images: grass. Kek.
Matthew Sanchez
Hobbits love food in general, though. They don't need weed to get the munchies. Also, when was that scene?
Lincoln Bell
These movies are kinda growing on me as time goes by. Nowhere near as good as LotR though
Robert Wright
The Extended Editions are pretty good, not memeing
Angel Walker
In the extended version of the lotr films it's obvious that it's definitely a weed-reference. Merry and pippin even get the munchies from it.
I just posted something similar 5 minutes ago but it somehow got removed?
Carter Scott
Nvm my PC is sperging.
The scene where they talk about the munchies is in the beginning of the second movie I think and a scene with them smoking the weedgrass and raiding sarumans food storage room (where it's really obvious) is after the fall of isengard.