John Wayne thread

John Wayne thread.

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John Wayne was a faggot.

>dodging WW2

what a pussy

>Marion Morrison

youtube.com/watch?v=SeOWZLpVK58

suck a dick faggot

John Wayne was a Nazi

What he did during WWII was far more valuable than dying on a beach in Okinawa.

John Wayne was a Nazi

He liked to play SS

He had a picture of dear old Aldolf

Tucked in his cowboy's vest

>"I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don’t feel guilty about the fact that five or ten generations ago these people were slaves."

What did he mean by this?

Clint Eastwood was better.

not being an edgelord or anything but I can see the appeal of playing an ss officer or something, their uniforms were /fa/ as fuck.

Too old for the draft.

bowser was dope af yo

Nazi! Nazi! Nazi! Nazi! Nazi! Nazi! Nazi! Nazi! Nazi! Wah!

He was 36 in 1943. Wtf did you want him to do?

He regretted not serving for the rest of his life, despite being an old man during the war by Army standards. You ever serve?

James Stewart was 35 and was a bomber pilot.

Thank god John Ford made him a man.

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He had a lung removed in the early 60s from smoking. Every movie after that required him to have an oxygen tank off set and had to use it every few minutes.

Top character

>Howdy, Mongols. Whaddya say we rape and pillage this here town?

Literally the biggest faggot who walked on planet earth.

Pic related: John Wayne fans

John Wayne great white man
Didn't take no shit from niggers, Indians or Mexicans

Heh, he got cancer from that movie

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everyone did

>When John Wayne died, 60 pounds of undigested meat was found in his body during his autopsy

WTF

Everybody got cancer from that movie. I'm gonna watch it soon. I'll probably get cancer and go insane like Howard Hughes.

kek

>While filming The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, Ford also ridiculed Wayne for failing to enlist during World War II, during which Ford filmed a series of widely praised combat documentaries for the Office of Strategic Services, and was wounded at the Battle of Midway,[8] and Stewart served with distinction as a bomber pilot. "How rich did you get while Jimmy was risking his life?" he demanded. Wayne's avoidance of wartime service was a major source of guilt for him in his later years.[9]

urban legend desu

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John Wayne is the greatest American of 20th century.

John Wayne slaughtered our Indian brothers

Burned their villages and raped their mothers

Now he has given them the white man's lord

Live by this or die by the sword

Ford was such a character.

>Ford was highly intelligent, erudite, sensitive and sentimental, but to protect himself in the cutthroat atmosphere of Hollywood he cultivated the image of a "tough, two-fisted, hard-drinking Irish sonofabitch".
>One famous event, witnessed by Ford's friend actor Frank Baker, strikingly illustrates the tension between the public persona and the private man. During the Depression, Ford—by then a very wealthy man—was accosted outside his office by a former Universal actor who was destitute and needed $200 for an operation for his wife. As the man related his misfortunes, Ford appeared to become enraged and then, to the horror of onlookers, he launched himself at the man, knocked him to the floor and shouted "How dare you come here like this? Who do think you are to talk to me this way?" before storming out of the room. However, as the shaken old man left the building, Frank Baker saw Ford's business manager Fred Totman meet him at the door, where he handed the man a cheque for $1,000 and instructed Ford's chauffeur to drive him home. There, an ambulance was waiting to take the man's wife to the hospital where a specialist, flown in from San Francisco at Ford's expense, performed the operation. Some time later, Ford purchased a house for the couple and pensioned them for life. When Baker related the story to Francis Ford, he declared it the key to his brother's personality:

>Any moment, if that old actor had kept talking, people would have realized what a softy Jack is. He couldn't have stood through that sad story without breaking down. He's built this whole legend of toughness around himself to protect his softness.

interesting anecdote, thanks

It's a song.

Hahaha, no.

You don't see many of these on here. Probably too old for the average Sup Forums poster to know or want to get into.

The problem with him was he was really good at playing one character, but only that one character. He didn't have much range so he stayed in a particular place acting wise his whole life.

John Wayne was garbage.

See how far you can watch "Rio Bravo"...

What the fuck are you implying?

Is that you? Is it me?

I don't get it

You better not be saying what you seem to be saying, because if you are, you'll be getting your shit slapped, boy

John Wayne was fucking gay

JOHN WAYNE IS BIG LEGGY

John Wayne was great at playing John Wayne, and nothing else.

Rio Bravo is fantastic, watch your mouth.

You people can't keep a thread alive for your fucking lives.

If it's not capeshit, got, or some stupid scandal no one cares.

It helps when OP offers content. Opinions, points of discussion, questions, not:
>Make a thread for me? XD

>their uniforms were /fa/ as fuck.
They were literally designed by Hugo Boss himself.

lol

Yeah, no. Stick with capeshit kid.

This is a myth created to perpetuate the nuclear hoax.

big-lies.org/NUKE-LIES/www.nukelies.com/forum/index.html

IS THAT YOU, JOHN WAYNE?

I never understood why he was so huge over there. Was it just his voice? Only movie I ever saw him in that did not make me want to kill myself with his acting was the Longest day. Other than that any performance he has done has been downright terrible.

He's the country genre of movies.

He was iconic/archetypal to a generation of Americans. He did happen to be in a number of good films from people like Ford and Hawks.

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Don't forget Preminger's In Harm's Way.

If you're not American, you don't understand. Not trying to be a douche. Just a fact. He is exclusive to Americans.

That's what I was saying. He was great at one character, and that's fine, but it's a big disadvantage when he's compared to other actors.

To those saying he's not kino:
>The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
>The Searchers

Gg

It's funny you say that, I just this morning read a little blurb from Richard Brody on it and look forward to viewing.

>“In Harm’s Way,” filmed in 1964 and released in 1965, just as the Vietnam War was heating up, connects the disruptions of war to predatory sexuality. It’s a story of the Second World War, in which John Wayne plays a naval officer whose military career destroyed his family, and whose brave maneuvering during the Pearl Harbor Day attacks nearly gets him court-martialled. Preminger offers an unsparing view of war and its overturning of the natural order, as the young die and the old grieve, romance yields to blind lust, and soldiers wounded in body and in soul find victorious battle as tragic as defeat.

newyorker.com/magazine/2016/05/16/otto-premingers-moma-retrospective

Liberty Valance?
True Grit?
What this guy said, he was the idealized "MAN" for entire generations. What he represented on the silver screen was an unflinching, uncompromising morality. You do the right thing, as near as you can tell, because its the right thing to do. He's the archetype for character and grit.

Americans love tough guy characters, and in his day, John Wayne was the quintessential tough guy, but also a hero, which is another thing we like. His characters never shot first, only to defend themselves, never shot anyone in the back, threw hard, clean punches, and always defended good people. It's a very American thing. Not so much in this day and age, but from the 40's all the way until his death in 79 he was the shit.

>never shot anyone in the back
But he was The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.

Shh, keep the myth alive goshdarnit

Wow, another Preminger retrospective. There was one at Cinematheque Ontario in the summer of '09 where I saw In Harm's Way and many other Premingers. Made me realize he is one of the great directors.

That was the whole point of his character in the movie. The real hero that gave up everything because it was the right thing to do.

Only to save his friend.

I love this movie. Why was it the right thing to do? I thought he did it only because he didn't want glory. He was a cowboy through and through, he didn't want attention.

Wayne embodies everything wrong with America, the gung ho righteousness reeks. The guy is propaganda given life. I did however dig him in The Searchers.

whats his best war movie? is it sands of iwo jima?

There is literally nothing wrong with America.

>John Wayne was racist. This belief comes primarily from a statement he made during a 1971 interview with Playboy magazine when he said, “I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility.

>Why was it the right thing to do?

Not that user, but bc Valance was a scourge on the town and was about to kill the man who made the woman he loved happy? Preserving the myth that the Stewart character was responsible, not taking credit, gave Stewart's politician legitimacy and allowed the populace to believe in him and justice.

Let me fight for you Khaloreesi!

>By contrast, John Wayne told an interviewer that he considered High Noon "the most un-American thing I've ever seen in my whole life".[19] In 1959, Wayne teamed up with director Howard Hawks to make Rio Bravo as a conservative response. "I made Rio Bravo because I didn't like High Noon," Hawks explained. "Neither did Duke [Wayne]. I didn't think a good town marshal was going to run around town like a chicken with his head cut off asking everyone to help. And who saves him? His Quaker wife. That isn't my idea of a good Western."

Any other anons here whose Dad's revered The Duke with a mythic reverence? Mine had a statue.

Because Liberty was going to fucking murder Stewart, who was a good guy actively trying to make things better for people. Even though he and Wayne were going after the same girl, that before Stewart showed up it was a foregone conclusion the two of them were going to settle down. So he kills liberty in secret, never says anything when the girl runs to him, and when Jimmy is feeling guilty and trying to shirk his newfound popularity Wayne shows up and slaps some sense into him. Because he did that Stewart goes on to a life in politics, representing the little guys, the good guys, helping to turn the territory into a state - and he owes Wayne his life so his entire career is trying to live up to the example he set for him. When he finally dies Stewart comes clean, because he hated no one knowing about wayne, only to have the writer tear it up because he ALSO understood the importance of what he did, the importance of one of the last legends of the wild west.

But High Noon is fantastic

Superb breakdown. It makes you realize the selflessness of Wayne's character. You should be proud of yourself for this analysis.

Interesting, I'm ignorant to his work but look forward to getting into it. I'll may start there, with In Harm's Way. Any other favorites/suggestions?

-Speaking of Richard Brody, and Liberty Valance, I first saw it as he included it in his top ten list of favorite American films. He writes and speaks insightfully on it, as in this video.

>The Western is intrinsically the most political movie genre, because, like Plato’s “Republic,” it is concerned with the founding of cities, and because it depicts the various abstract functions of government as direct, physical actions. It’s also an inherently romantic genre, because of its connection with the nation’s founding mythology. (One of the strengths of Ford’s movie is its depiction of the actual grassroots practical politicking in the Western territories.) The movie’s most famous line, of course, is that of a newspaperman: “This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.” Ford prints it—and prints the facts behind it—and makes a movie about the moral burden of a life lived in the name of a myth and the ethical implications of direct action.

newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/the-man-who-shot-liberty-valance

newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/choosing-the-best-american-movies

Not the same guy, but I would recommend Advice and Consent from Preminger. Pretty comfy movie.

So fucking good.

>Any other favorites/suggestions?

The movies before Laura (1944) aren't very good. The early noirs are all very good, especially Angel Face.

Some other favourites:

Bonjour Tristesse
Advise & Consent
Exodus
Tell Me That You Love Me, Junie Moon
The Court-Martial of Billy Mitchell
The Human Factor

Thanks anons

>Bonjour Tristesse
Fuck no, this movie was awful. I would call it worst Preminger movie but I didn't see his later works.

If you would call that his worst, you really don't get Preminger.

Of his later films, I would say Rosebud is the worst.

youtu.be/25b5TJFLHwE

He's fucking hilarious in interviews

Fort Apache is so fucking good

take that back or I'll hit you with my handbag

When men were men

Fuck John wayne. He hated black people

In his defence, black people are objectively less civilised.