Movieblob VS Cinemassacre

>who's to blame for this tiresomeness in the first place (HINT: It ain't the so-called "SJWs.")

what did he mean by this?

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James Video

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The Blob doesn't have half the credibility that James does.

Fuck, I'd even say that James knows more about Super Mario Bros 3 than he does, since he can appreciate the game without being so fucking obsessed with it.

>moviebob being somewhat reasonable about internet feminism
What planet are we living on?

Hes actually not being reasonable

Maybe reasonable for this fat fuck but definitely not by anyones normal standards

Type-2 diabetes.

>ttp://moviebob.blogspot.com/2016/05/cinemassacre-vs-ghostbusters-vs-internet.html#more

>Alright. The Internet is all up in arms because of the below video wherein a guy who reviews movies says he's not going to review the GHOSTBUSTERS remake mainly for nostalgia/"respect-the-original" reasons (and will instead do a "non-review" seemingly mostly about the failed attempts to make a proper GHOSTBUSTERS III over the years); and I find the fallout interesting because half the web is celebrating: "Hooray! Famous Internet Man has joined our anti-feminist witch-hunt!;" while the other half is scolding him over:"Boo! Famous Internet Man joined their anti-feminist witch-hunt."

Meanwhile, the gender-flip business of the remake doesn't really come up other than a factual acknowledgment thereof in the actual video, making it nicely illustrative of the tiresome way discussion of this movie has become proxy-vs-proxy and not about the movie at all... but also of who's to blame for that tiresomeness in the first place (HINT: It ain't the so-called "SJWs.") Anyway, there's the video, my take after the jump.

So. Background: James Rolfe, probably still best known as the Angry Video Game Nerd and pretty-much the INVENTOR of the whole “pop-culture rant” internet video genre, put out a video where he announced he was going to do some kind of vaguely-defined “non-review” tie-in video to the remake of GHOSTBUSTERS because it looks really bad and he resents the idea of remaking it in the first place and would thus rather not watch it.

Which… I totally understand and think is pretty valid. I mean, look – I’m a film critic by trade and I’m generally of the opinion that everyone critic or not should experience as many things as possible and that goes double for things you assume you yourself won’t like I assume we’ve all read GREEN EGGS & HAM and I don’t have to explain the logic behind that further. BUT! It’s also true that not everyone CAN see everything and if you really do think something looks so beyond your capacity for enjoyment or rational engagement then maybe it’s best left to others every once in awhile.

>To be frank – short of “not gonna watch it” I have a hard time disagreeing with most of his basic premise (though I'd like to think I wouldn't have said it was "good" that Harold Ramis didn't get to see the movie - that's a bit much.) GHOSTBUSTERS is one of those all-time classics that shouldn’t be remade even if remaking it well was possible which it isn’t because the making of GHOSTBUSTERS was one of those lightning-in-a-bottle scenarios that can’t happen twice and GHOSTBUSTERS II is the proof of that. The remake they HAVE made thus far looks and sounds terrible both conceptually and based on the trailers, everything about it makes me embarrassed for the very talented cast that’s been assembled to put it together. It’s a movie that probably never should have happened, stands almost no chance of being worthwhile and thus far doesn’t even look like it’ll be good enough to be a “whatever, next movie.” The last time a movie project looked THIS bad top-to-bottom before its release was BATMAN V SUPERMAN and just look how that monstrosity turned out.

>And yeah, I COMPLETELY “get” resenting remakes of classics because – yes – while a remake doesn’t make the original “disappear” it does often inject a sour note into the cultural history of something (fairly or not) at least for a little while. See: Today, when you talk about ROBOCOP, you kinda have to specify that you mean the good one from the mid-80s and not that godawful piece of garbage from last year. Or when you talk about HALLOWEEN and have to point out that you mean the John Carpenter movie and not the Rob Zombie one. It’s not a huge problem or a major tragedy but it DOES kind of suck that unless this remake is itself an outright classic which – no, it won’t be – any discussion of GHOSTBUSTERS will now have to specify whether you mean the remake or the good one.

>Now look, I’m not here to “defend” The Angry Nerd OR start some kind of debate over all this or even really to talk about his thing at all. And before somebody brings it up YES, I understand that he’s doing a “bit” and the whole “principled stand against a remake of a classic” thing feels like basically a clever promo for a what sounds like a video more about the history of the failure to make GHOSTBUSTERS 3 while it was still possible that he probably wanted to do anyway. I get it – self-promotion is the business, the business is what it is and he’s been doing it longer than almost any of us.

>What I do think is worth noting is that the “discussion” that spilled out of this continues to be all about sexist assholes in fan-culture clearly being upset at this movie because they recast it with women… and the fact of that BARELY came up at all in Rolfe’s video. Now, look – full disclosure: I know this guy, not super well but we’ve worked with a lot of the same people, have done a few of the same events, I always admired his work, he’s always been a good guy to me, I have ZERO reason to believe he has some kind of issue with women and the fact that he doesn’t bring it up at all bares that out: I take him at what looks to be his word that this is about remaking classics and not about gender politics or whatever.

>But what’s interesting and also depressing is… it doesn’t really MATTER, does it? The remake of GHOSTBUSTERS became a proxy battlefield for political posturing pretty-much the minute it was announced because that’s the world we live in now, and that’s always a frustrating phenomenon because it involves weighing two equally true facts against eachother – Fact #1 being that issues like feminism, progress, social-justice etc are, objectively, more important than whether or not a movie is good; but Fact #2 being that the only fair way to judge a work of art is based on its intrinsic merits and not which “side” of some bigger, more important argument its quality or lack thereof backs up.

>This is partially why you haven’t heard ME really have anything substantively to say about the movie up to this point: Honestly, I was rooting for it to be good (and still hope it is even though all possible signs point to “no”) because inverting the character-genders raised a lot of genuinely interesting possibilities and almost seemed like a good enough reason to remake a classic in the first place. And as soon as the awful trailers and the awful everything else started to roll in, y’know… I felt physically sick over it because I realized what we were now in for:

>The same pissed-off woman-hating assholes that ran roughshod over video-game fandom last year and this year have managed to (improbably) turn the otherwise well-intentioned Presidential candidacy of Bernie Sanders (of all people!) into a fucking punchline are going to climb all over this movie sucking as ammunition for their bullshit cause, which means the GOOD people on the other side will either feel compelled to jump in and “defend” this or get sucked in otherwise because it becomes the new talking point of the moment.

>And while that’s annoying on all fronts, I’m not trying to make a false equivalency here: I HATE the fact that we can’t have an honest back and forth about this or any other movie without having to think about whether or not what we say is going to get repurposed a weapon in a bullshit “culture war,” but I know who’s to blame for it – and it aint’ the so-called “SJWs.”: It’s the regressives and the trolls and fedora squad and the MRA/”meninist” right-wing internet collective that’s been banging on about this shit ever since they realized that the inexorable tide of cultural evolution is poised and ready to sweep them and their bullshit played-out reactionary worldview into the dumpster of societal-obsolesence.

>Because guess what: The remakes of ROBOCOP and TOTAL RECALL *both* looked just as bad as the new GHOSTBUSTERS looks (and spoiler: they WERE exactly as awful as they looked) – but I don’t remember a year-long preemptive, pre-TRAILER hate campaign against those movies; so logically there’s obviously something else at play here – and while it’s true that Chris Hemsworth being in a movie where he’s NOT playing Thor is usually a bad sign… I kinda don’t think it’s that.

>So… yeah. You think the remake of GHOSTBUSTERS looks terrible? I agree – it looks terrible. I just hope it doesn’t stop people from putting Leslie Jones Kate McKinnon in good movies because those are two funny fuckin’ people. You think it looks super-disrespectful to the legacy of one of the most important genre-comedies ever made? Yeah, I think that looks to the most-likely case. Don’t wanna watch it because of that? Fine – totally valid, you do you. But please, don’t you DARE insult either of our intelligences by trying to tell me that *most* of the super over-the-top mega-hatred that’s being trained on this project and RUINING any chance to have an honest discourse isn’t mainly coming from paranoid sexist assholes who think something is being “stolen” from them.

this whole business has probably driven more traffic to james' youtube channel than anything hes done in years

good for him

>shilling your blog on Sup Forums

So from his perspective, it's about stamping out a massively coordinated gang of woman-hating quasi-terrorists.

Is that Patton Oswalt's angle also?

The new ghost busters has his wife hostage

>Bob "It's OK when Muslims do it, but a 'hate-crime' when Christians do the same thing" Chipman

>guy decides he doesn't want to watch a shit movie
>internet loses their fucking mind
what? why?

Because Liberals are completely out of fucking control at this point.

What the fuck does Bernie have to do with any of this? Is this about that Bernie Bros thing?

he tied together bernie bros, gamergate, and mras all in one rant

if youre not with him, youre one of *them*

It's funny how their blacklist just keeps getting bigger.
Now it's just a matter of waiting until enough social groups are the target of SJW outrages over petty, minor bullshit. At that point they will finally have alienated everyone.

i just think its crazy that if for any reason whatsoever you dont like the new ghostbusters, you're automatically a womanhater

its insanity

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Bob is probably just cashing in the controversey.

That said, like most of them he has Gamergate PTSD. It's vietnam-vet syndrome for oldfags.

UNJUST

>our anti-feminist witch-hunt!

He can't seriously think feminists are a persecuted minority in pop culture these days.

most feminist are anti porn and anti video games so.....

until a state bans porm, then it's just the patriarchy .

>taking advice about having good morals from someone who skipped his own Grandmother's funeral to play Super Mario Brothers 3 instead.

You can trust Hollywood, right?

This shit's becoming like the "Lewinsky/Clinton curse" but for internet celebrities instead of senators

>turn the otherwise well-intentioned Presidential candidacy of Bernie Sanders (of all people!) into a fucking punchline

Bob is the most bluepilled man on the planet.

Blob is butthurt that AVGN gets more traffic than him , even his fuck buddy Devin Faracci is slamming James , and guess what James gets more traffic than him too

They both bash on people with actual opinions like little children.

I'm so surprised Blob hasn't killed himself after being fired from Escapist, threads like these are all that keeps him relevant

Let's hope this lights a fire under James and inspired him to put out more good material

>Bob Chipman

>RT
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i'm behind the times here, why did he get fired?

He couldn't contain his autism on Twitter.

wow...

i love how self-revealing this is.

Those people have such a massive messiah complex and are so completely void of self-awareness you would call them badly written if someone based a movie character on them.

The next episode of AVGN is still guaranteed shit.
James hasn't proven himself yet
This is all a fluke

didn't he already do that, though?

>This amount of shit taste
youtube.com/watch?v=V80IMmFDhpY

>Bernie Sanders

what?

I think he legitimately thinks Bernie Sanders was an actually chance of winning the democratic primary.
too bad he didn't realize that the democratic party's demographic is not the same as the republican party's demographics.

I genuinely can't think of someone sadder than Moviebob. He really should not have released that book where he talked about how his own family hates him and how he played a Gameboy in his car instead of facing them for literally hours, or how he didn't go to his own grandmother's funeral and instead played Nintendo. That man is genuinely fucking sad.

This SJW stuff is just him desperately trying to find something worth living for.

>he didn't go to his own grandmother's funeral and instead played Nintendo
I couldn't go to my Grand Dad's funneral because of finals, haven't been able to go their for job or school or something else, and all the while I feel like shit.
I literally have no reason to like this guy anymore.

Source?

SJWs sure do love the word 'tiresome'.

Not surprising considering how out-of-shape they are.

put all that aside I find it depressing that he has made nearly 100 of this videos and his production values don't seem to have improved.

your observation is problematic

The irony of some of those statements is staggering.

> Because guess what: The remakes of ROBOCOP and TOTAL RECALL *both* looked just as bad as the new GHOSTBUSTERS looks (and spoiler: they WERE exactly as awful as they looked) – but I don’t remember a year-long preemptive, pre-TRAILER hate campaign against those movies; so logically there’s obviously something else at play here – and while it’s true that Chris Hemsworth being in a movie where he’s NOT playing Thor is usually a bad sign… I kinda don’t think it’s that.
I agree with this actually. I never saw this level of vitriol directed at a remake

all them Screenjunkies fags lost their shit Over James not wanting to go see the movie

His book Brick by Brick.

It's suppose to be a critical analysis of Super Mario Bros 3, but it turns into a memoir about how pathetic of a person he is despite the opportunities given to him.

no shit you didn't retard, no one cared about those movies. To compare those to Ghostbusters is absurd

ghostbusters has a much larger fanbase. it was a family-friendly movie, while robocop and total recall were not

>Total Recall
>Robocop

>No one cared


ecks dee. Especially in light of all those niggers on twitter going fucking apeshit and insulting the director's dead wife

James is based! Alll you cuckmeme fags BTFO!!

>Fact #1 being that issues like feminism, progress, social-justice etc are, objectively, more important than whether or not a movie is good

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Lick my nut, fatty

That's because those remakes didn't feature a politically motivated gender-flip.

a lot of asspain from a 6 minute video where james calmly reasons why he personally won't watch a film

>Movie Bob calling himself a film critic
I'm laffin

>Hey guys lets rise to the bait for another forgettable remake!

Yeah, he's right about that.

What's fucked up, though, about Chipman is that he gleefully turns around and paints all misogyny as "the frumious exhalations of mouth-breathing social-undesirables who are destined for the dustbin of history."

His rhetoric is laughable and his autism is delicious. He's so fucking transparent. He's just a fat, lonely, talentless nerd who wants his life to mean something. He doesn't give a shit about egalitarianism, he was just a fat bullied kid who now wants to be the hero of his childhood fantasies. He's the most cringeworthy white knight I've ever seen.

>I agree with this actually. I never saw this level of vitriol directed at a remake

nobody started to turn it into a shitstorm because nobody needed those movies to be "important".

People called them unnecessary and shit and moved on with their life.

Its the SJWs that put fuel into the fire, write articles and defend that crap making it a much larger issue than it should be.

>Lick my nut, fatty

Why you only got 1 nut, are you hitler?

So, was there a way to flip the genders of Ghostbusters and make it good or was it hopeless to begin with?

underrated post

maybe if they put Cameron Diaz in her prime into it.

Lets be real, the male ghostbusters movie coming out after this one is hardly going to be any better. Comedy is dead now.

This is a new level of backlash we haven't seen before but those two, while fondly remembered, were some what seen as shlock. Ghostbusters is on par with other classics that have received a bad reception when revisited.

imagine if they had remade Back to the Future with the kid from Amazing Spiderman and some other annoying actor as Doc.

Can't really think of an old male actor that I really hate

>Bait
>Hundreds of millions of dollars

Son.

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It's especially amusing when you go back and watch his earlier work. He would spend huge chunks of his movie reviews talking about how hot the actresses were and would casually joke about rape. There's no way he legitimately believes in any of the garbage he spews. It's the only way to be accepted socially on the internet, and Bob is clearly a very, very damaged person.

In a way he's sort of right. The movie is going to be picked up and used as ammunition in this gayass culture way. He just expresses it in the most autistic way possible.

I mean, without really trying, I could've came up with four male actors to fit the part.

James Franco's brother
The black kid from Neighbors or Michael B. Jordan
Jonah Hill
Zac Efron

Either Krysten Ritter or Kat Dennings plays the secretary.

Whatever hardships I encounter in life, I always feel better about myself when I remember that at least I'm not Bob Chipman.

>Kat "Fat Tats" Dennings

Yeah I'm alright with that.

Wait, Bernie supporters are now gamergate misogynist MRA's? I thought they were the opposite of that

eceleb posters from Sup Forums were a mistake

>actually it's about sexism

thanks for telling me what I actually think movieblob

they seem kinda young
how old were the original ghost busters?

My first time actually watching the AVFM video, he did nothing wrong, he wasn't angry or offended. His opinion was very reserved and he's been spoken about like some big ol' meany.

You're thinking there's any kind of logic involved here. There surely is not. I'd be tagged as being a Misogynerd MRA goobergator even though I'm a Bernie supporter and have been a leftist my entire life. Even though I'm a minority. Doesn't matter, I'm a niGGer.

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They're honorary MRA's because Hillary.

I think in their mid-30s. Outside of Seth Rogen, no idea who the other three would be. James Franco, maybe?

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Hillary campaign and supporters painted bernie supporters as "bernie bros" who were misogynistic as a way to deflect all critiscm. They did the same thing back in 08 when labeling Obama supporters as the Obama Boys, it worked this time.

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SJW retards didn't try to turn those movies into statements, while ALSO pissing on the original.

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we got Eggkara up and alive, get in here!

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Currently playing James Rolfe's "Fem Bsuters" video.

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This is the same mentality of one of those Trump-protesters.

>"Somebody is saying something "problematic", so I'm going to turn into some kind of fascist Nazi psychopath to stop it. No, I don't see the irony in what I'm doing."