so guys, I wanted to share with you that you've got another atheist in the world. just left Islam and told my parents about it (they were OK with it).
I just couldn't stand how narrow-minded people can be and how they look at me in disgust when I speak about my thoughts (like those fuckers are always "right") and are 100% sure that I'm gonna burn in hell liek a fucking child fairy tale
also exmuslim thread, go! you're also welcome to post if you left another religion other than islam
to the religious people on Sup Forums - I hope I didn't offend you, but it's just not for me
Congrats on leaving Islam! What was your favourite part about Islam?
The buraq is the best part Mo must have been on some drug for all that crap to happen
Thomas Butler
This is fake as hell
Muslims never hesitate to disown or kill an apostate
Luis Davis
Nice bait if this was real you'd get honor killed for leaving the religion of peace.
David Murphy
Not all muslims follow Islam so strictly Some follow their own version So OP's story is probable
Wouldn't be a honor killing, it would be state mandated execution for apostasy if he was in an Islamic country. I doubt that anyway
Chase Smith
I like the hygiene part of Islam which I'm gonna continue doing (like washing yourself thoroughly, but this time without mumbling some arabic shit) and also respecting your family (which in most cases doesn't go well haha)
Matthew Carter
Why would it be fake? There are so many muslims right now that are very confused and don't want to be part of this shit. There are sooo many muslims that never gonna admit they don't believe because it could be dangerous in places like Saudi arabia or something (it's a good thing I live in the netherlands :P)
Hunter Perry
I'm also Turkish, so I also may be OK in Turkey. There are many atheists there. they even have some places where atheists can go and stuff
Xavier Wright
Eh the "respecting your family" thing seems more like "be a slave to your parents and do what they want"
The hygenie part is fine and all
What made you leave anyway?
Gavin Brown
well, at least that's what my family (only my parents and brothers) are very respectful to each other. maybe that's because my parents are very chill about this. they respected my choice (I'm pretty sure many won't though)
The REAL reason I left was because I always get discrimated when I'm around religious people and they talk about religious crap and then I'm a person who kinda talks alot and tells people directly in the face what I'm thinking. so whenever I tell them something like "What if the Quran didn't come from god but just got written by people) and they are saying stuff like I'm a lost person and that I will be fucked up when I die. if they don't accept me as who I am then why the fuck should I accept them? It's very weird.
I'm also someone who thinks alot and I have kind of high IQ and like thinking about how everything got created and stuff. I didn't believe in GOD, something that created all.
There are so many stuff that I don't believe in the quran or bible like Adam and Eve and stuff, and that makes me automatically not a part of the religion because if we listen to them I HAVE to beleive that people are made from mud and the whole adam/eve story etc
too many fucked up reasons :p
Xavier Evans
Good for you user, I left islam too but I haven't told my parents (I'm from Saudi Arabia and I'd rather keep my head on my shoulder) but I'd love to. I live in the states so it's not that big of a deal but when I do go home and visit my family, I have to deal with all that bullshit and I actually had to fake pray a time or two. Where you from user?
Adam Cruz
Congratulations, want a fucking cookie?
Hudson Gonzalez
naah I was a muslim too
Gabriel Bennett
gratz! well, I'm also in kind of same situation. the rest of my family is muslim so I have to fake it now and then, but I just say that I don't like to talk about religious subjects.
I;m turkish and live in the netherlands
Aaron Peterson
This is the result of a society without Islam. Maybe you like that sort of thing, but we don't.
Go join your infidel "friends" in the west... see if they accept you. They will never. They are hateful and cruel people. Islam is the perfect system for all mankind. You have chosen to leave Islam, but if you help the west in their aggression and mockery of Islam. there will be dire consequences for you.
Juan Anderson
you really believe that bullshit, right? god gave us a free will. and he is the one who will judge us in the last judgement, not you! you haven't got the right to damn people, only god has this right. war has always been fatal for all sides. are we wild animals or do we want to be better than that? god has created us as a mirror of himself. we can hate, but we can also stay peaceful. There are a lot of ways to release your anger, i.e. sports. Killings people no matter what they have done or what god thinks about that just isn't right.
Christian Kelly
> told my parents about it (they were OK with it)
that's just the guise they take while they plan the honor killing
Aiden Brooks
If you do not fight against those who want to destroy you, you will become cucked like Europe.
Islam is superior because it is a non-cuckold, anti-politically correct ideology.
Jose Mitchell
lol
Ethan Hughes
everyone who lives here has to follow the constitutions. the religions are bound to the constitution. that makes us a tolerant society. if you don't follow the basic rules of the society, you can fuck off because you are an intolerant brick and we don't have to tolerate you either. it's as simple as that. no 'cucking' possible.
Tyler Martinez
it's not that I think that if I'm an atheist I get accepted by the western culture. I will always get disriminated in the west because of where I come from (Turkey).
Aaron Gomez
just imagine the other way around. ok, turkey is the most tolerant of the arabic countries. what do you think would happen if someone from the west who isn't a muslim would like to live in kuwait or pakistan? how accepted is that person there?
Lincoln Peterson
yeah there meetings for them but not in every city only west cities
Blake Scott
Whereas in Islam, you are judged by your actions. Why do you wish to emulate the barbarians of the west who are still obsessed with eye and skin colour like primitive nomads?
Charles Moore
Not very. It is a reaction to the snobbiness of the west. We Muslims cannot be expected to tolerate the intolerant. Like I said, our superior culture of anti-political correctness allows us to say and practice that.
Asher Martinez
Maybe you won't believe it, but the current generation of Turks are very interested in the western culture, so those people can make great friends here (but of course the location matters very much, for example Istanbul is full of atheists, muslims, jews, christians etc. and they're used to it). I don't know about Kuwait or Pakistan though.
Colton Hill
It's not really emulating. If I converted to another religion that runs in the west (for example christianity) that would be an emulation. Atheism is more like you don't and moslye CAN'T believe in 1 superior being; god.
Lucas Carter
Yet you are still allowed to barge into the countries of Muslims and attack Islam... you can bend these rules to suit you whenever you like.
We will not fall for your deceit like every other people you murdered, looted and oppressed. Islam has Jihad. We will fight back.
Jordan Robinson
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Gavin Ortiz
>J I hope you know that I would be more brutally murdered by Jihad's because of my religious standpoint. And you should know that I won't allow that lol
Isaiah Campbell
>Not very You would get killed before you have finished to say the word 'Peace'. Very tolerant. How likely is that to happen to muslims in the west? Conservative muslims often can't stand criticque, but that's just free speech and derives from a free will. You have to pay for your thoughts, sayings and actions in the afterlife, not while you are still alife my friend. It's in god's hands, not in yours.
Julian Nguyen
You would be murdered by Jihadis because you are a hostile enemy.
If you never attacked or interferred with Muslims, you would not be facing the wrath of Islamic soldiers right now. Own up to your actions. This is the real world, not your mother's basement.
Joshua Cox
My own country just got attacked by the more extreme muslims during the (failed) coup
Nathaniel Rogers
I am an exmuslim myself. A lot of people look down on me for not believing and think all my miseries are because of it. I try to be nice to others but always end up getting fucked.
Parker Cruz
How did you drop the bomb on them, man? (no pun intended) I'm from a muslim family, too, and I just don't know how to break it to them
Jace Reyes
Since when are you killed for being a westerner or a Christian? You love playing victim with your lies and deciet huh, piggy? Still looking for those WMDs you killed millions of Muslims for?
We simply don't like you or want you in our lands because you bring nothing but trouble. Trump is gonna ban Muslims and Islam in America and so is post-Brexit Britain.
They are realizing that our way is better.... but they are too late. We have already planted the seeds of Islam there and it will continue to grow.
Julian Hernandez
We are fucked up badly. They either hate on us for not being religious or for being arab/turk etc.
where are you from?
Brody Morris
unfortunately, foreign seeds don't thrive on British soil. That's why we import our fruit.
Joshua Taylor
I did it very slowly. Like asking weird questions and play with the minds of my parents. and after a serious discussions with my uncle (my father didn't like how he speaked to me about my thoughts on religion) I said to my parents, I'm done with this. I don't believe in some parts of the quran and thus am not 100% muslim. I'm cutting the shit with this crap.
I hate to say this but people find me intimidating sometimes of how I say stuff directly in people's faces and they get confused and don't know what the fuck they should do). this helps me telling people what I think and having them shut up and suck it (I hope this is not the case with my parents)
Carson Ward
on the other hand, my parents are very loose and especially my father. I also go out with him sometimes and drink alcohol till we almost pass out lol.
they also let me smoke cigarettes/weed at home, because they think if they ban it, I will do it anyway, but outside and that would be more dangerous.
I think the main reason for this is that my father used to lead a mosque when he was younger and he even started a soccer team and then those guys in the mosque told him he steals money etc. and almost gave him the thief label. he also got beat up while learning the quran and stuff by the imams (talking about 30 years in the past)
Noah Wright
I never murdered, looted or oppressed anyone. I can't talk for the rotten politicians, though. Don't through us all in the same row. Fighting against terrorist organizations isn't fighting against Islam. If I would have something to say, we would the fuck stay out of there. The USA destabilized the region because of oil and because they always need an enemy to fight against. They are basically a nation that constantly needs to be on war with someone so their industrial-military complex has got a reason to exist. But that isn't true for most of the west. And neither did the people in the west vote for this.
Julian Thompson
Rational choice brother welcome :>
David Green
Islam is good. Islam thaught people human rights and women rights, but like i said before religion is making people crazy, they always get eventually to a point where they cant process stuff because they're always mapping real life with religion in their small brains (not all muslims though)
Bentley Allen
thx:)
Ayden Wood
Oh boo hoo... #notallwesterners. I'm tired of all this political correctness. You and your people are scum. Where is the condemnation from your people? All I see is Muslims being attacked, countries being looted and people being oppressed while you are more concerned about "The Bachelor " finale... I keep hearing this "westerners are peaceful and tolerant" argument but until I see it with my own eyes, I'll never believe it. You failure to openly condemn it makes you complicit.
James Parker
Rational would be to become agnostic
Blake Harris
West, East etc. doesn't matter where you come from. each country has their own problems and have killed thousands (more for sure) innocent people for political stuff.
I'm gonna admit that eastern people are not very smart and that western countries are ahead with technology, science etc.
Thats why jihad blows themselves up with rage while the western countries use the pen and paper (for example the media) to control those people.
Asher Lewis
You have got to have your eyes wide shut if you don't see that we are discussing politics openly all the time. We just don't kill each other while doing it. As always, the politicians ignore the people. Given the polls, the majority in the western countries is against an intervention. To the 'bachelor' viewers: They are neither smart nor willing enough to understand what's going on even when you explain it to them for a month.
Nicholas Barnes
The Japanes were technologically advanced and they also used suicide attackes a lot (kamikaze).
It has nothing to do with intelligence, although there are may more gullible villagers in the East than in the West. It has everything to do with culture and logistics. Suicide attacks are very effective against a mor advanced enemy and is preferred if the culture sees it as a noble act instead of a brutal one. Both Japanese and Arab culture had this toxic mix.
Nathaniel Rogers
>we are discussing politics openly all the time. We just don't kill each other while doing it. Because your countries structure and order wasn't destroyed by foreign warmongers...
Besides, if your beloved democracy is so great, why can't it carry out what the majority of the people alledgedly want?... Either democracy is flawed or you all only say you don't want to attack others on the outside, but you all secretly do. Millions enlist in the army by their own will, and are sent all over the world to wreak havoc and intimidate people.
I don't trust the liberal media. They lie and cover up things in order to be "politically correct". I only judge what I see, and what I see is a West that must be purged or reformed.
Isaiah Walker
every system is flawed. there is no perfect system. reformation is a neverending process. i don't trust the media either. everytime you speak to another human, he changes your opinion a bit. you would have to be a nomad to stay true to yourself. but you wouldn't learn much/fast that way. we are always dependent on the thoughts of others to build our own mindset. your trust can be false, hence nobody knows the whole truth. to the military: some believe in what they fight for, some were forced to go to the military at a certain age. some want to protect their country from invaders. ideologies and forced membership.
Evan Barnes
>some believe in what they fight for, some were forced to go to the military at a certain age. some want to protect their country from invaders. ideologies and forced membership. You just explained ISIS.
Logan Anderson
ISIS wants to kill everyone who doesn't believe in their radical believes. Militaries in the west are bound to the geneva convention.
I would rather live in an Islamic society than one that breeds SJWs / feminists.
Owen Mitchell
>ISIS wants to kill everyone who doesn't believe in their radical believes. And if you don't believe America is right, America will kill you too... "It's either you are with us, or you are with the enemy..." - G.W. Bush
>Militaries in the west are bound to the geneva convention Which they can ignore whenever they feel like... Rape women, bomb entire cities, nerve gas, killing for fun etc...
We don't fall for your fairytales.
Jordan Flores
The drone killings have to stop.
Chase Clark
The issue is. You can always leave, join, leave Islam again. But you will never stop being Paki. (Or whatever you are).
Evan Williams
haha, quite.
Jayden Cooper
Now as an atheist , start to question the world. Question the theories of god or gods , Look around and find a cause because without a religion most people are just drifting souls
Eli King
>told my parents about it (they were OK with it). be glad you're not my son. i would honor kill your faggot ass. your parents are shit muslims.
Lucas Bell
Yeah... Some people (if they are truly, supper determined) that there is no God etc. They become the most depressed thing in the world, cus they have nothing left to live for. Cus, there is no after life.
Angel Foster
I am no USA fan either, but Bush doesn't represent the american society.
>Which they can ignore whenever they feel like No, they can't. USA still doesn't acknowledge Den Haag. If you are a witness of illegal attacks, collect as much evidence as possible and send it to them.
Carson Hernandez
Not gonna lie, me too. The thing is with Islam, compared to their older Abraham counterparts, is that it incorporates modern things like feminism to such a mild extent is that woman can't and well shoudln't complain, stay in one place, and being the man is the best it can get in a place like i.e. Saudi Arabia. Odd that.
Unlike Afghanistan, Pakistan where Sharia is basically non existent women have the power to do such things .-. Can you beleive a country like Pakistan recognizes '3rd gender'.
Adam Smith
do you want your children to be happy? then why can't you accept their own choices?
Juan Harris
Great, now u can eat pork. Good guy, good job.
Christopher Campbell
The entire invasion of Iraq was illegal, Sherlock. According to UN protocol, but who care? It's America... they get to do whatever they want.
>Bush doesn't represent the american society. Oh right, and Bin Laden doesn't represent Jihadis... pfft. Do you realize the insane claims you are making. Can you imagine a leading thinker in America saying Baghdadi doesn't represent ISIS?
Jaxson Williams
No. Disobedience to Allah and your parents is punishable by death. Apologize to your parents. Confess you sins to Allah and accept your beheading as honorable.
Hunter Thompson
>Disobedience to Allah and your parents is punishable by death. Only in the Bible. Doesn't say that in the Quran...
Bentley Scott
>The entire invasion of Iraq was illegal You don't say
>Do you realize the insane claims you are making. I just wanted to show you that there is a big growing gap between politicians and the society. They are shitting on us and you want to know why we are talking about peace but are still fighting in your countries? because we first need to peacefully and democratically get control over our own countries back from those lunatics. It's a long, hard way, and not many are willed to give their strength for this, because it hurts them on other ends. Praying wouldn't be stupid. Every attack on our societies throws us back and gives those lunatics more power.
Levi Kelly
Reform is heresy that they'll kill you for though. And not strictly following the Quran word for word is clearly stated to be an action that will reject you from Allah's kingdom. They may follow it loosely, but they atleast know this right?
Ryder Bailey
lol. 6th greater sin. you are a terrible muslim?
Jordan Hernandez
Not op here. But it would feel strange and still 'not right' to do that. Physiological thing.
Benjamin Hughes
Congratulations. What was the straw that broke the camels back for you? Mine was when I read the Surah where an ant talks to Solomon. It was Ramadan at the time as well.
Carson Davis
I know this is fucking bait, but I actually wrote a legitimate article that claimed the same thing. Never got it published because the only sources that would accept it were run by fucking SJWs who thought that "Hate in the West" meant Christians and Jews and Conservatives. I legit don't mind Islam being used as like a dog on a chain to purge all of society's BS. It really comes down to whether you'd rather live in a peaceful society full of faggots that is practically run by tumblr or live in a society where beheadings are regular but atleast everything checks out with the lack of faggotry and niggers. Why can't we just do what Spain did a few hundred years ago? Let the Muslims rape the undesirables and heretics, and then push the Mudslimes back out.
Connor Kelly
i want to bring attention to the fact that you just openly admitted to leaving a religion because of the way people look at you. not because you don't agree with the teachings of the religion, but because billy from the playground said it was stupid and you're stupid for it.
Ayden Gutierrez
Multiple wives, that are pretty much slaves, Patriarchal system, you all kill the homos to keep morality, pretty good system. 11/10 IGN Approves. Like skyrim, but with deserts
Oliver Sanders
I found Abdullah. They looked at others that way because of the teachings of the religion.
Carter Williams
lol I think you're on to something there. And if that is the case... OP has forgotten that his sand nigger looks (especially is he is South Asian ... tsssss) yeah no one is gonna thing better of him just by looking at him.
Jonathan Walker
You can pretend to be Islamic but you cannot escape regressive policies. Particularly if you are a man. Hey, I gotta say, you Muslims have that much right, you will not deal with this BS. I like Vladimir Putin for same reason. The US will collapse under its stupid SJW shit
Cooper Diaz
>Multiple wives Only when there is a shortage of men... :/
Eli Turner
Dear time traveler, your rules don't seem to apply to this timespan. Please accept our constitution or head back to where you came from. Sincerely, the modern society.
Noah Gray
Indeed... Indeed.
Josiah Smith
>> Bush >> great thinker
Are you Insane? The man has water where his brain should be
Logan Jones
Yes
Henry Anderson
>OP has forgotten that his sand nigger looks (especially is he is South Asian ... tsssss) yeah no one is gonna thing better of him just by looking at him.
Exactly.
If he couldnt handle the sideways looks from other people then he is already a weak human being LOL.
>people looked at me funny for believing in god so i decided to leave and make a post about it on Sup Forums
Youre weak OP and we dont want you with us.
Nicholas Watson
I love how SJW and feminists align with Islam, and fail to realize Islam would destroy them given the chance though. I sit silently, as a MGTOW and Darwinist, and wait. Knowing they will destroy themselves, makes the destruction of feminism and SJ all the more sweet
Gabriel Kelly
exactly. nobody supported bush or the subsequent wars that he threw us into. not one person i've ever met actually supported him and I live in Texas.
Jonathan Perez
Samefagging this hard.
Besides if he's Middle Eastern or North African >What are south Europeans?
If he's South Asian >What are Sikhs and Hindus?
As well as this he's leaving for himself, not others.
Eli Kelly
Water? Huh... I always thought it was crude oil.
Carson Hernandez
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Sebastian Bennett
>As well as this he's leaving for himself, not others
But thats where you are wrong. He clearly states that he is tired of narrow minded people looking at him wrong. Read the OP again.
>Besides if he's Middle Eastern or North African >What are south Europeans?
>If he's South Asian >What are Sikhs and Hindus?
This doesnt mean fuck all. Use logic please.
Jeremiah Myers
Haha, corporate orate interests more like. We gotta save Iraq from their erl. We are like ingsoc with perpetual war. I cannot remember when we were in peacetime last.
Nathan Reyes
lol he's not samefaging, I said So just take that for what it is.
I mean, Islam has taken such a bashing in Europe, and especially in Britain with Brexit people have become less tolerant.
Similarly, what I said about if he is South Asian in a place like Western Europe, then it's even worse, much easier to determine what he is
"Oh look it's a paki or indain or whatever, he is probably Muslim too, let's bash him" See what I'm getting at?
Ian White
i wanted to laugh but it is the truth. neverending war.
William Gonzalez
My state is bad enough they blew up an Iraqi mans house several years back... I live in the south.
Levi Edwards
I'm muslim and I fucking agree that almost all other muslims are fucking retarded cunts. You have no idea of how many of the muslims I know that protested a fucking comic strip (Charlie Hebdo) but NEVER protested the actual shooting. They are hypocritical assholes and I hate them.
"The terrorists aren't real muslims xDdd"
"DONT SAY MEAN THINGS ABOUT ISLAM OR ELSE"
Luis Rivera
Sweden is filled to the brim with mudslimes and it got even more "liberal". Explain that you cunt.
Jaxson Williams
As if there is enough to take over. Let alone having a Muslim prime minister.