Just finished Civil War. Movie was probably the best Marvle movie to date. BvS doesn't compare at all

Just finished Civil War. Movie was probably the best Marvle movie to date. BvS doesn't compare at all.

How do they top this?

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>BP's look in his eyes
YOU JUST KNOW

After I saw it I came home and went meh. You come home and make a BvS vs CW thread. Kys marvelcuck

lmao buttblasted DCuck

Why not? Both are clear competitors, and I watched both. In my opinion, Civil War is the best superhero movie since Dark Knight.

Cap movies really seem to be all very good.

I agree, hopefully they top it by staying somewhat true to the grand scale of the Infinity Gauntlet instead of somehow making it Avengers focused.

It was an awful adaptation of the comics. Completely ignored the ideological conflict in the entire second half in favor of muh revenge plot device.

No one cares about the comics and civil war comic was complete dogshit. Fuck off.

>It was an awful adaptation of the comics
Which is good considering comic Civil War was absolutely terrible.

> Completely ignored the ideological conflict in the entire second half in favor of muh revenge plot device.
Still better than in the comics, were they dropped the ideological conflict to make Iron Man and his side mustache-twisting villains since they didn't know how to end the conflict.

I am an avid comic reader, Civil War is awful and this movie is actually better.

Simply put, you have a low cinematic IQ, or some sort of Stockholm Syndrome, from overexposure to bland, safe, PC and soulless mass-produced blockbusters, which has conditioned you into accepting the absolute lowest common denominator standards in filmmaking, writing and cinematography as somehow acceptable, when you should in fact feel nothing but contempt or disgust for any Kevin Feige-conceived product.

Even strictly in the field of capeshit entertainment, where the bar has always been pretty low, since they're primarly a children media, the level of genuine quality and creative abilities (which comes from studios giving freedom to an auteur with a strong personality and vision towards the material) has kept dropping since the 90's.

When Raimi's Darkman/Spider-Man, Del Toro's Blade 2/Hellboy, Burton's Batman 2 or Bird's The Incredibles offered innovative and playful set pieces, meaningful and relevant themes, each with a very distinct, appropriate tone and truly cinematic aesthetics (simply compare the lighting or editing to today's equivalents), none of these qualities are to be found in Avengers or any of the previous MCU entries. This is why Edgar Wright got fired from Ant-Man. This is why Feige keeps hiring visionless point-and-shoot directors who come from TV or comedy, colorblind cinematographers and art/set design teams who seem to be in love with grey, sterile hangars for some unexplainable reason. Action scenes are now being conceived by CGI teams months before the movie begins shooting and all follow the exact same formula.

Even as a child, I couldn't imagine being dazzled or amused by those turds, as they're utterly devoid of any charm, colors, magic or imagination.

The comics had something to say about how emotional attachment to ideological convictions turn good people into authoritarian retards.

The movie was about how revenge turns people into dicks, which is fucking obvious and has been done to death. It's also filled with stupid quips and the airport scene is truly awful and has zero tension.

The Civil War comics were really good, plebs were simply mad because

>not muh Iron Man
>not muh Captain America

>The Civil War comics were really good
Opinion discarded.

I'm done with this Mickey Mouse-tier soap opera drama. It doesn't help either that all the fight scenes are edited by a teenager with Tourette's and Parkinson's, it's as if they want to distract the audience from how shoddy everything looks by waving a flashlight on their face. I couldn't give a damn about any of these sterile excuses for characters. During the airport scene all the artificially-inflated conflict devolved into a child playing with one toy in each hand and bashing them together.

It's riddled with sophomoric and shallow pseudo-political ponderings that are thrown out the window when the quiptastic action starts. They completely disregard for the umpteenth time the collateral damage while they're having fun showcasing their flashy abilities.

The third act pretends to get serious when in reality it turns into a cheap heartstring manipulation revolving around "why didn't you tell me Cap waaa".

This part completely disregards the fact that Stark knows all too well that brainwashing and mental manipulation is a thing, let's not forget that he has witnessed it firsthand with Banner. There's no excuse for him to have such a sudden change of heart other than to extend the conflict for another 15 minutes of mindless violence, and leave the manchildren with the impression that they've just witnessed an intricate revenge tragedy.

All smoke and mirrors, the constant quipping is an effective tool to cloud a fanboy's mind and judgement.

Finally, what's left is an entire team of "world-class" heroes that got fooled by a man wearing a Bucky mask. Not to mention that the villain's stale trope was better executed 19 years ago when Scream 2 came out, ironically, a film satirizing this cliché.

If you don't think this is cartoonish and laughable you might be too young to post on this site.

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lmao mad DCuck

Marvel fans can't deal with philosophical issues and deep drama

That's why they're Marvel fans.

I'm amazed that DCucks are so assmad that they are making and spamming copypastas both shitting on Marvel and trying, and failing, to explain why BvS and MoS aren't garbage.
I've never seen this amount of damage control and anal pain and I absolutely love it.

MoS and BvS were substantially better than anything Marvel has produced.

It's been 2 months since BvS' failure.
Even babies end up getting tired of crying, so at least reach baby-status, and accept it.

They could have atleast brought Daredevil into it. Especially considering everyone fucking love him as well. There's no loss..

No, they were not, and the audience fortunately saw through Snyder's sad garbage.
I assume these are you?

Could someone please explain the revenge plot in Civil War to me? I don't get it... the guy is going around asking for details on the mission report from December of 1991, but he already knows the end result is that Bucky killed Tony's parents? How did he know this? How did he know there was a CCTV video of it? How did he know ANY of this? It seems like a pretty large assumption to think he was just randomly trying to get Steve and Tony to fight over Bucky, but in order for his revenge plot to work, he would have had to know there was something there to begin with. Did I miss something here? Or is the whole revenge plot just that full of holes?

The opinion of an irrelevant DCuck.
Why don't you go be asshurt somewhere else, mad DCuck?

They should have got rid of characters like War Machine, Vision etc.

It should have been The Winter Soldier cast, with added Tony and not called it Civil War. Just had the conflict of The Winter Soldier and Starks Parents throughout.

Is that the end of the Accords now? It should have been a two part movie (once again) and brought in Punisher and Daredevil.

Because Black Widow leaked all of HYDRA's files at the end of Winter Soldier.

They say he got it from the SHIELD data that Black WIdow leaked at the end of Winter Soldier.

Though Tony hacked SHIELD's files in The Avengers and for some reason learned nothing about it.

After BvS I completely forgot about it when I came home. After Civil War I was thinking about it all day.

>It should have been a two part movie (once again) and brought in Punisher and Daredevil.
No, it should not, there's nothing more to tell, and there's absolutely no reason to bring in two street-level superheroes with the Avengers.

It was also all heavily encrypted data. He states he's a patient man, so he was obviously decoding shit all the way through to finally unlock the footage.

Why is there such a pedo vibe between Iron Man and Spider Twink?

>Though Tony hacked SHIELD's files in The Avengers and for some reason learned nothing about it.
Not even Nick Fury knew about HYDRA, and when he started digging in, they tried to kill him.

>analyze his fight pattern

And no one thought to tell Stark?

Tony has substantially better tech than Zemo. His AI collected info for him in Civil War, so you'd think he'd be searching the SHIELD data for every nugget he can find.

Only Cap knew, and he didn't tell him because he didn't want him to attack Bucky.

yes, they were but the people(drones) wouldn't have it

they couldn't stand their precious quipflicks looking like tv quality garbage in comparison to DC films so they gave it bad reviews

What for?
HYDRA is pretty much dead in the MCU.

It was fucking stupid tho. In fact everything with Iron Man is fucking stupid as shit.

Yes, the critics, people in forums, the entire world, they are all wrong.
Only the 10 DCEU fans left and Snyder are right in this world about how non-garbage his superhero flicks are.

He collected the data in The Avengers, before Winter Soldier, when Hydra was still running SHIELD

Yeah, all of superhero movies are stupid, in fact, I don't know why you are here.

The fact that he dragged Peter into it was stupid. Then he got mad about Wanda being there

And how could he have discovered that?
Not even Nick Fury managed to discover that HYDRA had taken control of SHIELD.

>The fact that he dragged Peter into it was stupid.
He needed help.

> Then he got mad about Wanda being there
Because he was trying to protect her.

He literally hacked all of SHIELD's files. He has AI's to search for data.

Fury is just as incompetent as Iron Man apparently.

Or maybe all of that was just very well hidden.
Hell, the first proof of SHIELD being taken over by HYDRA was in some old bunker after inserting the pendrive that Cap recovered from the Lemurian Star.

>musculature drawn on to Iron Man

literally wat

why doesnt he do that from literally the second they start fighting? and for that matter why doesnt he analyze the fight patterns of all of team Cap?

His original armor in the comics was skin-tight.
It wasn't until decades later that they went more for what you see in the movies.

>why doesnt he do that from literally the second they start fighting?
Because he thought that by being in a metal suit he would easily beat him.

>and for that matter why doesnt he analyze the fight patterns of all of team Cap?
Because that was to counter hand-to-hand combat.

It's not the same as Scarlet Witch just picking you off the sky and smashing you into the ground, no matter how much you analyze that, you are not going to avoid it.

>and for that matter why doesnt he analyze the fight patterns of all of team Cap?
Because he wasn't getting his ass kicked in the airport fight in close quarters.

He's a kid that was Tony's main argument for Wanda.

No more ridiculous than people saying the Tim Burton Batsuit is the best when it has molded muscles.

>those child birthing hips

Even Ant-Man was a better told concise story with better characters than Batman v Superman. I understand how some people like Man of Steel even if I hate it because its still a story with some ok characters unlike BvS which is barely a story at all.

>HELP ME TONY
>THE BABY'S DIAPER NEEDS CHANGING

>Comics
>Comic book flicks
I'm glad you people won't reproduce

I just wish they'd stop rushing through villains and big storylines.

Either make them longer or in two parts. It was really bad what they did with Crossbones.

Just got back. Decent time waster. Favourite fight was War Machine v.s Gravity

my brother really wanted him to die he was happy when he was shot down

shame marvel are pussies

Why aren't you watching Civil War with us?

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Thanks m8, good quality, is civil war next?

Do you really think HYDRA would leave their files acessible to any hacking program, particularly on the Helicarrier, which was Fury's domain?

I mean, wouldn't you? It's Chris Evans.

I wish I was Olsen in here...

HOW DARE YOU ARREST ME FOR BREAKING THE LAW THIS IS BULLSHIT

He only wanted to protect his daughterfu.

In all honesty, a skin tight Iron Man suit would make more sense in this day and age.

Did they even tell Ant-Man what he was getting himself into when they picked him up? He seemed to have no idea what was going on.

He's a Cap fanboy.
When Cap tells you he needs you, you comply and you let him fuck you in the ass if he needs to.

They told him "something about some psycho assassins."

AntMan's powers seem pretty useful for breaking into armored soldier-bases and such stuff.

>best Marvel movie
>is literally the worst Captain America movie
Nah m8 the best Marvel movie is Cap 1

There's so many things wrong with that premise that I'm just going to tell you it's dumb and hope you figure it out cuz I can give you like 4 reasons off the top why it's fucking stupid .