No CL trophies

>no CL trophies
>just 1 finals appeareance
>No UEFA/Europa League cups
>just a shitty cup winners' cup

how can they call themselves a "big" club?

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English delusion

why are you so obsessed? look we all know you're jealous but there's no need to keep making threads about it.

>jealous
lmao

they won a few league titles back in the dinosaur age by bribing the FA to let them in the first division

at least they aren't liverpoo lmao

Serious question here, not OP:

Was building the new stadium the worst decision possible? Until then they were good (by british standards obviously, but they also reached a CL final), then they start moaning about having to pay it and not being able to sign new players and now all they do is avoid spending money unless it's a crap overrated player like Ozil or Alexis

five times, la > 0 times

is that mouyes' daughter?

It's like growing up with a pet rock your parents gave you and wondering why it never does anything

I think your argumentation based on how many CL they have is wrong.

Manure and Liverpool have a few each and they're not a big club anymore.

>top players
>top manager
of course they are big club

Lmao those 2 will never cease to be big, theyre the most successful in England for fucks sake. You're just chatting absolute shit wanting a reaction

I'm not looking for a reaction. They even struggle to qualify for Yurop m8. Even Lester is winning leagues.

>muh history

Trophies aren't what make a club a "big club". It's the fanbase that does.

no and no

That's shit since you can buy 1B fans just by signing a random chink.

Ozil, Cech and Alexis would be starters in any team in the world, except for Barca and maybe Real.

Maybe, but I think most chinks are already Man Utd fans. This is what makes them a big club. It doesn't even matter that they're not in CL.

>by british standards obviously
Get back to me when your country has won the champions league 7 times in 8 years

you forgot

>worst general on /spee/

ozil and cech would start even in those teams. cech is way better than navas and a bit better than bravo. ozil is better than rakitic and james.

>Cech
kek no

Yeah, we've seen Alexis at barca-level, really worked well for him

And it's not like Ozil got kicked out of Madrid

Also is Leicester a big club? Because Kante and Mahrez could've been starters anywhere in the world last season.

Malaga with Kameni and Camacho

some bundes teams too

ffs there are some chinese clubs with borderline world class players now

>Cech is better than Navas
he's not even close, try watching games from other leagues once in a while

>how can they call themselves a "big" club?
deluded people that live in the past, just like this one:
>Get back to me when your country has won the champions league 7 times in 8 years

It's fucking hilarious how arrogant you are when you can only manage to win the champions league once every 2 years with the best 2 players to ever play the game and you can't even fucking retain it once. Reality is going to come crashing down hard on your shit heap of a league when those 2 fuck off

maybe you should. he's a reflex babby with literally nothing else to his game.

>massive fan base
>5th richest club in the world
>third most successful English club in history
>going a season unbeaten in the most competitive league in the world
>Wenger revolutionized and overhauled English football
>overall likeable and self sustainable in a world full of debt ridden and sheik sponsored shits
???

this. they've won the cl by paying hundreds of millions every year for all the best players but when you look at, for example, man utd in 08 and 09 where they got to 2 cl finals in a row, the team was full of mostly nobodies like carrick, fletcher, hargreaves, wes brown, john fucking o'shea.

>you can only manage to win the champions league once every 2 years
spanish teams have won the last 3 cl, and 5 of the last 8, 6 of the last 11. And these are real current champions leagues, not 70s european cups. You should watch football if you want to talk about it

Your record in the champions league is laughably bad considering you have the 2 best players ever

like it or not, he's comfirtably been a top 3 gk in the world

>likeable

It's quite better than your country's and infinitely better than arselol's, and I personally find it hilarious considering how 3 of those cl were won humiliating '''''''''''''premier''''''''''''''' clubs and the fact that every season we kick out '''''''''''premier'''''''''' teams out of the competition

>mfw arsefags thought they were buying a good player in alexis panchez
ay ay ay

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nobody really thinks of them as a threat anymore, at this point they're pretty much liverpool tier
their fans are just as deluded as well

it's just right now EPL has too much parity for any to come forward as the overall power, whereas teams in bundes, la liga, serie a and ligue 1 have the title wrapped up by february so can concentrate all their efforts on European tournaments

in regards to being a 'big' club, meaning history, money and fanbases included, most leagues have 1 or 2 whereas EPL has about 4-5

Look at how mad this spanish faggot is lmao

>6 in 11 is better than 7 in 8
I'm not sure how you worked that one out. Whatever way you dress it up 1 champions league in 5 seasons with Messi at his peak goalscoring level is an under achievement and it's hilarious that you still have this overinflated ego when Messi and Ronaldo are reaching the ends of their careers

kek
How it is possible?
British defend this pls

You just described Sporting, except their only final was in the UEFA cup which they lost in their own stadium

But when it comes down to it, top players nowadays will choose Arsenal over Liverpool every time.

no, they choose lestah

>Ozil is better than rakitic and navas
Hahaha holy fuck

Ozil was becoming a sub in Madrid,and Navas>Cech. Ozil wouldn't be a starter in Barça and Cech maybe able to be in the XI

we did win the europa league

Navas > Cech > Bravo

>Manchester United got to two finals against Barca
>lost both

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHA

Pirme Cech maybe. Old Man Cech of today not.

>>ffs there are some chinese clubs with borderline world class players now
Doesn't make them big, tho.

>deluded britshits

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Are there even any Brits ITT?

it's just because they're in London, they'd be Aston Villa tier otherwise

Please explain why Arsenal suffer so many injuries? Even players without a record of lengthy injuries get them when they join (Welbeck, for example)

>I live on the internet

t. liverpool / united fan (teams that actually finish midtable)