Give me a real argument for voting for Trump. Not just one against Hillary

Give me a real argument for voting for Trump. Not just one against Hillary.

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because you're a cuck if you don't

Basically this

cuck

Because he's gonna get all the mexicans and sang niggers and throw them away in the goddamn trash where they belong.

Trump will initiate WW3

i want to watch the world burn

Let's put someone with no political background in the president's chair, 100% a good idea...

Trump will help economy, literally the only thing. Even then he might fuck that up trying to net more money for his greedy ass self. But then again your people's votes never matter. Electoral college cuck.

Cuck nigger that's why

Because he loves america and he'll help the economy by getting rid of all the shitskins. He's a billionaire and made big ass buildings.

Trump has the balls to stand up for what he believes in, not pander to focus groups and capitulate to SJWs.

Hillary flip flops on every issueand jer opinions mirror whatever is polling better with liberals today. She has no true platform other than tell whatever lies need to be told to gain another vote.

Trump will remove illegal immigrants and stop terrorists from coming to the country. No, the refugees are not women and children. They are mostly grown men. Search the info. for yourself. Political 'correctness' needs to come to a halt at where it is now. Trump is not backed by any large groups, he is only going in for himself.

These are the basic facts that a simpleton can easily understand. I won't go into the stuff that'd be too difficult for you to comprehend. See you later.

Bring in trillions of dollars into the US. There is literally no loser under Trump's plan other than Crooked Hillary's donors

Hillary has no political background.. she was a lawyer. Cuck.

couldn't they afford the last 'e'?

heroes is spelled wrong

>She ran the country for years
M8 how fookin' dumb are you?

How so, if you have listened to any of his speeches you would have heard him say numerous times that the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were a waste of lives and money and we should have invested that money into American infrastructure and education.

Meanwhile hillary voted for the wars and was behind regime change in egypt and syria. Yet people act like Trump is the war monger.

Nice b8, fuck off retard.

Meant tosay libya, not egypt

>I lack the ability to comprehend and interpret economics so instead, I'll pawn it off on somebody else.

Ok

B8 you can look up and see what she's done (K fam you obviously autist and can't look up information)? I mean you guys act as if Trump as done nothing wrong and Hilary is a snake. THEY'RE BOTH TERRIBLE.

Except he won't help with the economy.
Managing a country is not like managing a business. He will fuck that up too.

If you're a single filer making $150,000+ a year, or a married joint filer making $300,000+ a year, Trump's tax plan is going to save you a shitload of money.

>Trump will help economy, literally the only thing.

Honestly? Doubtful.

Trump's economic successes have been in two fields - real estate and licensing. Licensing is a perfectly reasonable way for an individual to make money, but it's based on skimming profits off of changes to demand by influencing popular tastes. It can't be replicated on a wide scale. American real estate, on the other hand, is the safest investment bet in the world. There's a reason why so many Russians and Chinese pump their money into American real estate.

Any business that Trump has gotten into that includes actual substantitve production has usually failed. Whether it's goods (Trump Steaks, Trump Magazine) or services (Trump University). Goods and services are the meat and potatoes of economic production that we need to build upon in the American economy, and he has consistently failed in those endeavors.

tl;dr none of Trump's actual successes translate to the macro American model. There's a reason he's declared bankruptcy four times.

That's not even the fucking Confederate flag

Goddamn, racist redneck white trash are SO FUCKING STUPID

>MUH HERITAGE, MUH PRIDE
not enough pride to know IT'S NOT YOUR FUCKING HERITAGE

It was essentially meaningless to everyone until racists revived it in the 1960's to protest the Civil Rights Movement.

I'm FROM the South and you drooling inbred retards are a fucking embarrassment.

Because I don't want to.

See this is the problem with Americans. You only have two options and you don't even get to choose those two options. Some "Delegates" do.

It seems that if you were a top 50 net worth company you could easily buy the delegates and have one of two people you choose become the next president.

Ontop of that you could stack the game by making one of the candidates an idiot with no political experience and racist ideals. Hell you could even pay him, like he is in a reality show or something.

Gee Gee america. Gee Gee.

>this is what white trash actually believes
KEK, you're so goddamned naive

Seriously, you are every bit as embarrassing as the "WE PRESIDENT NOW" niggers. I hope Trump gets elected just so you get bitchslapped with reality and how much nobody cares about you.

Lower taxes
Help vets
Repeal and replace Obamacare (up 61%)
Common Core Education
BUILD THAT WALL

>no clue how American elections work
thank fuck nobody was going to listen to your opinion anyway, fuck off foreigner

Trump has said numerous times that he intends, more or less, to install himself as a dictator.

He has stated he will proudly commit war crimes, talked about how much he loves other dictators (Putin, Saddam, Kim Jung Un).

He also asked three times during a one hour briefing why we can't just drop nukes.

If he is our president, he will be our last president. He will drop nukes. That will set a precedent for other countries (who we dont like) to drop nukes.

Basically, if you want to watch the world burn, vote for trump.

If you'd like America to remain a democracy for a few more years and if you'd like the next generation to NOT inherit the Fallout universe as their future, vote Hillary.

I don't fault people for wanting to vote trump. Just so long as they do it knowing they will be ending the country/world as we know it.

Foreign policy and immigration policy are in line with the founders views. Controlled immigration and no nation buolding. Just kick ass and leave. These are actually executive functions, unlike all the economic BS he won't get past congress anyhow.

>trump will help the economy
how?

>why should i vote for trump?
>"he'll make america great"
>how?
>"j-just do it y-you cuck!"

Pathetic

>lower taxes
>bankrupts US government
>have to short-sale our entire military
>Trump brankrupts everything

If you're actually stupid enough to believe his campaign promises, then you're also stupid enough not to do the fucking math.
>protip: Trump's plan is NOT EVEN POSSIBLE

trump's money comes from mainly rich muslims. i think his promises to remove them are false. it's like he would shoot himself in the foot if he did. and i dont think he's that much of an idiot. he probably is in bad shape monetarily and owes back taxes, so he's probably trying to say anything to get out of debt. also he's bankrupted 8 times, and this isn't a good trait for anyone who wishes to lead a nation.

He will lower taxes on the lower/middle class and will get rid of common core

>Lower taxes
He'll do this. How he's going to patch over the $10 trillion deficit in spending because he hasn't announced any cuts is completely unknown, but if you want to put blind faith into a guy who's declared bankruptcy four times, go nuts
>Help vets
Nothing about his recent actions suggests he gives a shit in the slightest about vets
>Repeal and replace Obamacare (up 61%)
Repeal? Probably. Replace with what, though? Literally no plan has been presented.
>Common Core Education
A much maligned Republican initiative that is actually a good thing but it involves CHANGE so all of the Republican Boomers decided it was the government devil and Republican governors that sponsored it pretended it was done against their will.

"We need more STEM students" the parents cream
We give them a program to create more engineers and programmers
"This is different than how I learned, get the government out of our schools REEEEEE"

Fucking morons.

>BUILD THAT WALL
Net migration is actually a negative into Mexico, i.e. more Mexicans are returning than coming over. The real problem is Asians flying over on student visas and never leaving, but why fix a real problem when you can blow money on a visual solution to a make believe problem, right? Fucking hicks.

You have two major parties. Those parties have independant Voting systems on who thier candidate for the next president is.

People who want to be the candidate for thier respective party run around the country trying to get people to vote for them so thier particular areas party delegates with vote for them. Not all the delegates are controlled by this vote and can choose whoever they want.

Minor parties get less 5% of the total votes every 4 years so they are effectively non existant.

This is my understanding. Correct me if I'm wrong.

you're a fool

Trump's plan is not feasible, he only included tax breaks for lower/middle class to justify HIS OWN TAX BREAKS.
>guess which one he'll keep when it's time to actually BALANCE A BUDGET

look hereTrump's plan is no more than a shallow suggestion with zero explanation on how to increase funding to account for the loss in taxes.

Pretty simplistic view of NATIONAL elections, but not inaccurate I guess. There's a lot more that goes into campaigning and supporting a candidate for these elections, it starts well before the actual primary races and that's where public involvement plays the biggest part.

Of course you would only focus on national elections, getting all your political news from major international media. What you haven't considered is that the Federal Government is essentially insignificant compared to your state and local governments, all which deviate highly from the national political races.

Indeed, in local elections, which account for the vast majority of law creation and governance in the US, parties play a greatly diminished role.

>Telling Trump what he can and can not do
That's hilarious.

You like to watch the world burn?

Replying to actual facts with nonsense.

That's expected.

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yeah i can't. go hillary

oh wow, that's so original

What Europeans are so clearly ignorant of, from an American perspective, is the SCOPE of our government.

We govern 400 million people from 50 separate state governments (county, city, etc.) and we happen to be the most diverse population on the fucking planet.

The closest you can conceive of would be the EU, which is an embarrassing quagmire of ineffective governments. If you were to EVER make the EU an effective governing body, it would look a lot like what the US looks like.
>after all, the government of the US was based on that of the Native Americans, which formed representative councils representing the different tribal nations of the continent.

The truth is that a 2 party system is MOST EFFICIENT, because it means different things in different areas. Maybe social conservatism is more important to some people, but they're still incorporated into a functional body with other people of differing views.

Your failure is that you see this as a lack of representation, when it's actually a necessary part of the compromise that 400 million people need to make in order to create functional government.
>and while the Federal Government handles compromises between the dozens of American cultures, individual states govern themselves and make little to no compromise with outside cultures.

Because we need a real change

Hillary still has brain damage from 2012 concussion and blood cot in brain. She also has radiation poisoning from all those trips to japan during fukushima(its still on). Damaged thyroid explains her repeated coughing fits.

youtube.com/watch?v=OqbDBRWb63s

Do you really want brain damaged and gravely ill president?

Hillary is so exhausted after public speeches that she has to sit down and rest. Im pretty sure that she will collapse in debates with trump and thats how trump will get elected.

that is literally the only reason to vote for him

however, while the world's burning do you still want to jerk off to trap porn? because trump signed a pledge to go after online porn.

There is no argument for voting for Trump other than not Hillary.
Also no argument for voting for Hillary other than not Trump.

how so exeactly? never saw any specific details for this bullshit claim

For the lulz

you sound just like the niggers who elected Obama

Do you even know what the President's job is?

i make around 200k a year as a consultant. still not voting for trump

cuck

And even if he does, i come to the conclusion that western societies became so decadent with almost every way of life there is (reason why feminazis and sjw's will arrest your ass if tey could) because we became weak and frail because life is easy and good without any hardship. Don't get me wrong, i would fucking hate it if i had to go to war, but if ww3 happens, it surely wont happen with all that "nuke all of em" shit, but rather with gigantic blitzkieg style conventional warfare. You rather choose total annihilation over something like the USA and russia throwing everything except nukes at each other. This is of course just an example. But this is how it's going to play out IF a third world war will start. Nobody profits from nukes, and everybody knows that. Rather prepare for being thrown into one giant meatgrinder than being destroyed by a nuke.

>common core demons

shows you're right wing leanings here. you're a fucking shill

The Wall.

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join the military

seriously, why are you wasting your time waiting for a businessman to run for President? If you think anything will change, you're probably too young to enlist anyway.

Moron white trash rednecks can't even spell Heroes correctly. Proves Trump supporters are just as stupid as everyone thought.

yeah except parties are under no obligation to choose by popular vote, their candidates. this only started in the 1970's.

Im sure all those niggers and Mexicans will thank you for your tax dollars while they are ball deep in your wife cuck

People on this site are this stupid... I would say nice bait but deep down we all know that you're saying what you actually believe

>dat face
>implying trump isn't equally or even a worse liar
amerifags have seriously managed to pre-elect the two most fraudulent candidates possible. this is why everyone thinks you're retarded.

Basically.. America can't be defended at this point..

that's true. on a local level a democrat capable of getting a decent number of votes in texas is a lot different than a democrat capable of getting a lot of votes in say massachusettes.

it's only on the presidential level that it all blows up.

there is probably a better system but we need to have voting technology brought into modern times before we try anything.

i guess this bullshit has replaced the constant whining about benghazi. not sure if it's progress or what.

local level governments are highly representative, which also means that they're usually pretty fucking worthless if not openly corrupt.

It turns out people make more sensible decisions the larger the pool is. As far as technology goes, there will ALWAYS be room for corruption, which is why you need multiple independent systems.
>e.g. George W. Bush had Diebold voting machines rigged, and there is Supreme Court testimony of this very fact.

How about the fact that she is basically the embodiment of political corruption and cronyism. Or is that whining too? She is a horrible candidate. Maybe not as horrible as Trump but horrible nonetheless.

neither are fraudulent, really. clinton is a career politician riding on Obama's pretty solid 8 years without the apocalypse, skewering a decade of bullshit right wing propaganda abuot him and her.

trump is a modern man and doesn't pretend to be a politician. he's a 25 year old troll from /b living in an old, orange body. he's refreshing.

neither are the devil, neither are corrupt, neither are killers.

other countries shuold have filters for the "news" coming out of the USA during presidential elections.

Bro, your system is not perfect, but it is by far the best democratic system that there is in concern to how many citizins the USA has. I envy you sometimes, because i wish the EU would get its shit together but it is to late, and we never have had the ground to create such a wonderful nation. Don't get me wrong, the US is by far no perfect country and many things i enjoy as an european citizin is awesome, like universal healthcare but besides that, we're a clusterfuck of nations to stupid to get it right...

>there is Supreme Court testimony
and here it is

youtube.com/watch?v=JEzY2tnwExs

A two party system is not the most efficient. Americans seem to think that politics is some sort of left to right number line but it's actually more of a square (i.e. the political compass) - two parties can not represent all the different ends of the spectrum of beliefs: that's part of the reason Trump has been successful and Sanders got so far, because people are sick of having such limited choices (this is totally disregarding that the Democratic and Republican parties are both basically authoritarian right, just one is more mild than the other)

watch this video in full and tell me that a two party system is superior: youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo

I never said that the federal government had any real controll. Tbh You work mostly in the same way as small countries do when it comes down to your smaller populations. Which I personally think is a good idea. The way it all ties in to congress is stong to meaning the ballance of power is such that its difficult to corrupt.

>What Europeans are so clearly ignorant of
Implying I'm European.

>most diverse population on the fucking planet.
Jerk it harder man. Not enough people are watching.
Also >implying

>The closest you can conceive of would be the EU
>implying I'm from the EU

> 2 party system is MOST EFFICIENT, because it means different things in different areas.
No it means the same thing across all the areas. Hence why its a vote on the national level. The only thing that changes depending on the area are peoples perspective on what the party stands for, not what they actually stand for.

>Your failure is that you see this as a lack of representation
What I see is a easily corruptible system where either a reality TV gameshow host becomes the leader of your country or a pedophile who evades the law becomes the leader of your country.

totally agree. we have work to do but the US is already great. it's already a shining beacon on the hill and always has been. trump is in danger of snuffing that light out, not clinton.

>neither are fraudulent
kek
>he's a 25 year old troll from /b living in an old, orange body. he's refreshing.
double kek
>neither are corrupt
triple kek

Why hillary doesnt really give press conferences or doesnt let reporters film when she's boarding her plane? Shes avoiding public spectacles and doing only those what she must. During democratic debate she took over 5min break suddendly which left commentantors confused.

Insiders say that she has to be supported on stairs because shes too weak after any event or stressful situation. Special lense on her glasses proves that she has double vision after concussion.

Oversleeping important meetings while being secretary of state, "often confused", fatigued ect? Those are signs of brain damage or radiation poisoning.

I dont like trump but its scary that brain damaged person can have nuclear arsenal.

i don't think you get it. when you look at presidential elections, yes, it's shitty to have just 2 parties.

but on local government, even up to the senate and house, the 2 parties span the entire spectrum.

a successful democrat from texas will look a fuck of a lot like a successful republican from california.

Yeah, I'm sure you're probably only 10th person in this thread to fall for op's obvious bait from last civil war thread. You're soooo intelligent.

Authoritarian dictatorship when please?

directly copied from the DNC talking points cuck lmao..

>not perfect
I can't conceive of a perfect system, can you?

There will always be ideologoical impasses, there will always be resource shortages and there will always be fear and hatred of competitors. The job of government is to navigate the inevitable conflicts of life, not to manufacture a perfect life.

To give me NEET bux while I sit at home and make memes?

>jerk it harder man
Does something about the US being the most diverse nation on the planet upset you?

>hurr durr, Australia so diverse
per capita, perhaps, but we have literally every single person of every nationality that Australia does in one of our 50 states.

The only nations on the planet that are larger are China and India, neither of which have any diversity at all and neither of which have a functional fucking government.

Wouldn't agree to that, but only because iam not informed on what both actually represent. The Internet only has "trump will start ww3 hurr" and "Hillarys emails durr" to offer. And i simply dont care, iam depressed and to drunk to often to care. But if i had to choose which system the EU should take, it would surely look more like the system the USA has.

The problem i see is, that europe never had that tabular rasa state the USA was funded upon. We have a rich history, yes, but also alot of states that dislike the idea of giving up "national identity" instead of pulling all on one straw. And that is our burden, to which i have no conclusion to, nomatter how long i think about it (and iam a factory worker, i have ALOT of time to think all day). Iam just afraid the EU will break up for good because our chancellor fucked it up for everyone. Thank you merkel, you opened the far right the door to infiltrate our system.

He's one of the few people in the workd whoe understand how economically fucked we are. And his wallet gets fatter if he can help us fix it.

i want tougher boarder security. I could go on but this is the only one that matters. I am a one issue voter and i'm going to vote for whoever is most likely to give me more gun rights. johnson has revealed his hand as a hillary shill so the only option now is trump if i want to keep my guns and not fight a civil war.

yeah you could be right. it's hard to cast off royalty and that shit.

but trump trying to end the estate tax is a straight road to family oligarchy and royalty like europe. long term that is.

>implying Trump isn't a pedophile who evades the law

Keep up with US politics or don't, but nobody cares about your half-baked opinions

How can two parties span an entire spectrum that at by its very nature is at least 4 extremely different political views (5 if you include centrist; but I doubt there are many people on the authoritarian right in the US). People need candidates that represent them, otherwise people feel disenfranchised and we have shit elections like this one, a giant explosion of many people's pent up energy of always having to chose between the "lesser of two evils"

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why are you so fucking scared of mexicans and muslims? yuo have like a 0.0000001% chance of getting killed by either one. stop being a fucking coward.

All the peoples with political background are corrupted, so good thing...

Sorry, I meant authoritarian left

You mean you're shilling for FREE??

You know he's paying people to do that exact thing right now?

Trump is a businessman

He has gone broke many times and each time made his fortune back

He doesn't have political experience which is a plus for me for many reasons

1. You can't lie your way into money unless your Enron or Bernie mad off and even then your gonna fuck yourself

2. He's already rich. Obamas black ass didn't do shit for us and now he's gonna make millions off speeches because he was the first black president. He fucked us to add s title to his name for the sole purpose of investing in himself. Trump has money and has a name for himself, there is nothing in this for him personally if he wins.

3. He can already buy hookers and stuff so not like Goldman each is gonna put w gold dildo in his ass and EVEN IF THEY DO he's still gonna do what he wants.

4. Ronald reagans stupid ass was a fucking actor

Trump donated to Hilary's campaign in 2008. And has donated to many other political figures, so he obviously cares about this country.... Enough to run for president after donating millions over the years. Despite Hillary who

Is connected with dozens of murders

Constantly lies and changes her points of view

Got dismissed for no fucking reason over the email scandal

Doesn't donate shit

Has Goldman Sachs hand up her ass

And like every other banking and energy corporation

She's gonna use her political power to fuck us and make money, just like her husband. Who knows she might kill more people off too.

>China and India
>neither of which have a functional fucking government.

Your opinion is no longer valid.
Try harder troll.

because it isn't this simple.

in a small town like shitburg texas, a far left winger would never even stand a chance because the people are not aligned that way. if they pick a democrat at all, he will be pretty conservative compared to more liberal towns in the north. they may call themselves democrats, but if they grow up there they'll just be a little more to the left than the republicans.