Are the Chinese literally the zenith of human intelligence?

Are the Chinese literally the zenith of human intelligence?
>highest iq
>not swayed by sentimentality, all liveleak videos show them making the most pragmatic decision - ignoring the unfortunate sufferer
>Finnegans Wake is a best seller in China

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if you believe in what that communist gov't says...
also, this is more related with educational system. the better the educational system, the higher IQ.

>peak of intelligence
>slaves to state
>living like canned tuna in lethal smog
hmm...

Han Chinese have the highest IQ on average, except for Ashkenazi Jews. absolutely, which is why China is going to be the next superpower

but why do you go on to bring empathy/sentimentality into an argument about intelligence anyway? being pragmatic doesn't necessarily mean that you're more intelligent

>Which is why China is going to be the next superpower

Nothing indicates that this will happen.

Being more and more robotic doesn't make someone the zenith of intelligence. It just means they lost an aspect of humanity.

>>Finnegans Wake is a best seller in China
when
anyway foreign books they can read are very limited due to censorship

you must be an actual idiot to believe this

everything does if you actually pay some attention to the progress it has made (the only BRIC country that has done particularly well) and its technological capabilities

keep living in denial, fag white boy

No, this is a meme, deploying standard countermeasures

If they're so smart then why do they need to steal all their ideas from the west?

they are making traditional superpower moves like colonizing all of Africa and buying up foreign governments.
but yeah, you can't be that super when you're dependant on foreign trade

the west has more outstanding individuals even though their average IQ is lower than Asians.

unfortunately, Asians are obviously less creative and can only copy from western.

>foreign books they can read are very limited due to censorship

That's probably why Finnegan's Wake is so popular there, because it's actually a whole bunch of gibberish so even the Chinese authorities don't object to it.
>some attention to the progress it has made
I have, actually. Nothing indicates that they will be a superpower.
>and its technological capabilities
Which are actually awful. Name innovative Chinese tech companies. Oh wait, there aren't. All relevant Chinese tech companies of note (can only think of Lenovo, Huawei and Xiaomi) basically are "80% of the quality for 60% of the price" type companies. They have ZERO innovative tech giants, like Japan and Korea do.
>the only BRIC country that has done particularly well
India has faster economic growth. It means nothing.

your countermeasures suck. Lynn's data is often untrustworthy but everything points to the Han being the smartest on average. look at Rindermann's estimates too

you could say the same about the west in late medieval times. China has now adapted to western science and technology and is going to surpass it soon by being basically a Japan+ of 1.2 billion people

Greeks aren't exactly known for the keenest of economical insights

>they are making traditional superpower moves like colonizing all of Africa
Not happening.
>buying up foreign governments
China has close to zero close allies or puppets. Even Russia is much more influential.

Even in Central Asia, at China's doorstep, Russia is much more influential. That just goes to show you that China is a political lightweight relative to its economic status.

>tfw to intelligent to develop my own ideas

there's a page called "living in Asia ironically" on facebook you should check it out

memes aren't going to stop China's inevitable rise. they're smarter, much smarter than the west

>tfw you'll never have a high iq weiqi playing chinese gf

Chinese IQ is lie

Japanese > Korean >>>>>>>> dog >>>> dogshit > Chinese

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I'm convinced some Westerners will never face the facts. it's unfortunate

t. Hiro Hikikomori Jackson

The OP's map is Lynn's data tho, that's who I'm addressing, even so the points regarding FLynn effect and Meoamerican advancement stand, you cannot point to any proof that categorically disproves my statement regarding genetic limitations to the population of Mexico. Any other claims you may make as a "race realist" or whatever else you consider yourself to be do not concern me.

Respond to my posts with actual discussion then.

你有什麼理由那麼熱切地辯護中國?

not worth it, you made the basic arguments of someone who has no clue about Chinese technology

yeah, I know. it's Lynn's older data too, he's modified it since then, still look at Rindermann if you prefer

I'm not a 'race realist', just a fact accepter. it's very likely that Mexico has lower IQ than Europe, except maybe Albania or something. the only 100% definitive answer is gonna come when we can map out all the alleles affecting IQ but let's be realistic

Not the guy you replied to, but
>I don't have any data to support my argument, so have another ad hominem instead

So no discussion from you?

Incompetent lazy Greek.

Greece economy is actually recovering cause of China. It makes sense to fellate his new master for saving him.

Surely the huge population almost ensures that it will be an economic superpower and that it's just a matter of time? I mean, over three times the population of the USA is nothing to be sniffed at. Just playing devil's advocate here.

>greece
>not western

Where did it all go so wrong...

You mean like Nigeria is bound to become an economic superpower too?

>Greece economy is actually recovering cause of China

clueless garbage

I do have the data but do I need to go into discussion of robotics and genetics with clueless toothpastes...China #1 soon, deal

Rofl, you think it's recovering because of greeks? It's recovering despite you greeks.

I don't blame you for defending china, don't bite the hand that feeds after all.

At some point in the next few decades (might take longer because the Chinese economy is gonna slow down and has massive problems) China will overtake the US as the largest economy in the world.

What does that mean though? Politically, China is pretty damn isolated. Nobody likes China. Their military is weak. The Renminbi is an irrelevant currency.

In one generation, China's population pyramid will resemble that of Japan, and nobody knows how China will handle that. Their economy is terrible inefficient because of large SOEs doing absolutely nothing of worth.

>I actually have the data, guys really!
>I'm just not posting it because I can just call my opponents clueless
Did you really have to bait so obviously?

you're completely retarded and have no clue what you're talking about. China's effect is minimal, dumb bitch

I've posted it before but westerners never accept it so I don't waste my time. I just mention China's inevitable rise and their objectively smarter status and end it there

Bad news for all those Chinese-Canadian kids, huh?

It's "very likely" based on what? Your educated guess? Mexico independently developed color television and contraceptive pills in the 20th century and it's now amongst the countries with the most engineering graduates.

forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2015/06/09/the-countries-with-the-most-engineering-graduates-infographic/#3fa51ce5455d

Could it be that differences in testing on say PISA are due to it still being largely rural and lacking adequate institutions? If you wanted to seriously debate this we would have to go into defining both race and intelligence which in and of itself is tedious as fuck but necessary insofar as it exposes the weakness in trying to extrapolate data from a correlation that is actually easier to explain based on development and specifics of education systems, ever heard of Occam's razor "fact accepter"? Indians in the US (the ones froim Asia) score above the mean for whites despite being significantly lower in OP's map, could that be related to one fifth of their population being illiterate or those in the US having self selected through a rigorous screening process?

Face it, you don't have the facts to back up your claims.

Say I'm wrong (which I'm not), then explain to me your motivation for defending China.

Latin America loves China. Loves them more than the big bad Yanquis.
Pretty much all big-project infrastructure work here in Ecuador is now being carried about by Chinese firms. Roads, dams, mines, dredging our ports, the Chinks are doing it all because the government is too fucking useless to do it themsevles. Even statism has failed here, so its reverting back to econmic imperialism, only we don't mind cause its not the gringos.

Sadly, having a few weak South-American countries as allies is a burden if anything, as the Soviet Union showed.

if a retard like you says the moon is made of cheese, i don't have to sit and debunk it too. I'm not defending China, just laying out the facts - smarter and soon to be better

you're an idiot. rural China tests at high European levels too as PISA representatives have said in the past. Mexico is just genetically dumber than China. and yes, you answered your own question about Indians in the USA, India has a lower IQ than even Mexico which is why it does much worse than China

What's the quality of the new infrastructure vs old infrastructure? That's the most important question. How many corners were cut?

>It just means they lost an aspect of humanity.

Dude thats legit pretty racist.

Again, no data, and you haven-t even addressed my Flynn effect argument, also you seem to be missing I suggested environmental factors on India which kinda dumps on your genetic determinism theory doesn't it?

And you have the nerve of calling other idiots when you can-t even keep track of an argument in a slow board.

>the better the educational system, the higher IQ
Shut the fuck up, subhuman Chimpanzilian.
Unless you have something to back your nonsense up.

those arguments have been debunked a million times. this is why I hate this retarded board, you have to rehash arguments anyone with a serious interest in any subject shouldn't even be making

rural, poor China is doing as well as rich Europe. rich China, way better

the environmental factors aren't going to increase India's IQ from 70-something to China's 105+

That's clearly not it. Your defense is way too emotional.

yeah, I'm angered by stupid people who say shit like "le China recovering le Greece hence le defense"

Give it a few years until the next major earthquake and we'll find out. I can't imagine its any worse than the absoulte crap the 10 previous presidential adminsitrations threw together.

Your 糞青 act is a bit weak due to you not knowing any Chinese, please try better next time

you don't know chinese either. your previous sentence was wrong

You were defending china before I made that statement so clearly I wasn't the one who initially triggered you

yes, the truth about China was separate. what you wrote was still dumb

just fuck off, I need to poop

And how would you know that?

I for one, welcome my new Chinese overlords.

you again.
so, your purpose on Sup Forums is to insult any Brazilian. you, Sir., are pathetic.

Asian gods.

That's like 50% of the Brazilians on here lmao. They're the only ones on here that use vpns to troll their own countrymen.

Back to Sup Forums, paulistacuck

Why not post a screenshot of the last time you rebuked that then? Not smart enough? You're not actually making an argument here just claiming it's been conveniently already made.

His disproportionately tiny legs look ridiculous

yeah... but there is one that always use the Sup Forumstard neologism "Chimpazillian", and go with the same line of arguing.
that's why i can recognize him.

Am I going colorblind or the references don't match up with the map

The only reason that people have low IQs in the states and Europe is because the older generation was exposed to huge levels of tetraethyllead and nerotoxic pesticides. Because china missed out on most of the 20th century development they were not exposed to the same toxins.
This will change. The US and Europe phased out TEL and some of the worst pesticides. This means the IQ in those areas will go up. The west is also breastfeeding their infants again where China is moving away from this.
The pollution in China is going to lower the whole countries IQ.
China's shit generation is now being born and they are going to destroy the country. It is going to be fun to watch.

They don't because argentina's iq isn't 90 or 95 or 100 but somewhere in between.

His IQ is between 90-95, you can't expect him to know better

im dubm

this map is incorrect

Italia is not that high and US should be in red

Doesn't China's data only include Shanghai or something.

Shanghai is in china...

The data would not be representative of the country because people who live in large cities tend to have a higher IQ

This map is misleading, you dumb bitch.
The stat of of China is not measured nationwide but only Shanghai and Beijing, iirc. The report actually make it clear that the score is at city level, many country also only measure their capital.

Great observation.

iirc irans was taken from rural buttfuck villages. the same people who put the islamic republic in power

You liberals need to stop assuming rural=dumbfuck hillbilly.

Most of us are just as educated as you are.

desuarchive.org/int/thread/69910709

This is the same ANTIFA from earlier, but now he has an Ecuador proxy.

>leaf
>defending China
So they werent meme'ing after all.

>Surely the huge population almost ensures that it will be an economic superpower and that it's just a matter of time?

Wrong. China is way over an optimal population level, by at least 600 million.

>The only reason that people have low IQs in the states and Europe is because the older generation was exposed to huge levels of tetraethyllead and nerotoxic pesticides

Wasn't that the same generation that landed on the Moon and created the personal computer? It seems since they banned pesticides that people are getting stupider.

Lol I'm actually a Hoa :)

chào bạn

More likely it's a CCP bot with an Ecuador proxy.

>implying Ecuador can into computers or electricity

>unfortunately, Asians are obviously less creative and can only copy from western.
This is true. Asians still lag behind the Anglosphere and Europe for tech innovation. Japan had 25 years of dominance and is now irrelevant.

underrated

>implying Ecuador can into computers or electricity
This lol

>optimal population level

lol wtf are you talking about

>China has close to zero close allies or puppets. Even Russia is much more influential.
Yeah Russia at least has Syria, Belarus, and Serbia. China has nothing, the closest thing they had to an ally was Best Korea which now has almost cut off contacts with Beijing.

I've never seen an Ecuador flag more than a handful of times desu. I always got the impression that they're like Bolivia, ie. too dirt shit poor to have any communications infrastructure.

Most of China's population are useless surplus that consume resources and aren't needed to maintain current productivity levels. Why do you think they started the One Child Policy?

>India has a lower IQ than even Mexico which is why it does much worse than China

because of socio-economic-political conditions and the absolute shit the two centuries of colonialism left us. Not because of >muuhhhhh genetics

If it was because of >muhhh genetics Indians would not have created some of the most influential and earliest world civilizations and dominated the world economy for 2000 years.

As our economy rises, the socio-economic conditions will improve too and consequently the overall IQ. It's fucking common sense

India is handicapped by the fact that it isn't one nation, but 20 nations.

China's language and writing system are also too hard for foreigners to easily master.

The policy is now two children policy. Also they can convert that mass of human trash into usable labor force through education. That's how it has always worked.

This, the IQ requirement is too high to be a lingua franca

>implying the one child policy is not terribly misguided

>I suggested environmental factors on India which kinda dumps on your genetic determinism theory doesn't it?


It;s not environmental conditions. It's socio-politico-economic factors. We hit the rock bottom in 1947 due to colonialism and then a fledgling democracy that had to first stabilise the country politically with it's humongo-fucking diversity, stabilise the economy recovering from socialist idiocacy all the while having to do this within democratic norms. That's why the growth in India is slow compared to slow.

For example, to construct a dam or a road we have to get the permission of the people living there. If one of them objects, the case goes to court, the project is delayed and sometimes when the court rules no, it is cancelled. In case of chinks, no issue. The commie overlord in Beijing decides something must be built and he doesnt give a shit how many thousands are made homeless, how many land is destroyed or what happens. He just builds it and consequently the """"progress"""" seems faster. Plus Chinks are an overly servile people who seem wanting to have someone control thheir lives. That shit wont fly here in India. If it even appears the federal govt is overstepping on cultural or political autonomy of the states there would be riots.

I know and accept the trade in for the better progress the chinks have now would be surrendering our political and cultural autonomy and liberty - but that is something I would never do.

t.pajeet

China has a ton of handicaps. Aside from that, they lack exportable culture, an appealing, exportable ideological message, and also their geography limits their ability to project power.