When are you Sup Forumstards going to understand that a disbelief in god also means:

When are you Sup Forumstards going to understand that a disbelief in god also means:

>no free will
>no emotion
>meaningless existence
>only purpose is to pass down DNA
>love is simply evolutionary way of better passing DNA

Yeah our world is fucked up.
But things happen. People do things that are completely selfless. What about acts that puts the person in danger as in (saving a stranger from a fire) for no gain? Putting yourself in dangers way?

>You'd have to be utterly fucking retarded to not believe in a god.

Free will
Emotions Exist
Meaningful Life
Selfless Fundamental Nature

You have to be retarded to believe that all atheists don't feel emotion or are bad, selfish people.

That's not the point dumbfuck

The fundamental belief of no "non-physical" existence, like thought and free will don't exist anymore.

>its exactly what i'm saying. you can't be an atheist and also have free will and feelings liek love.

Its an oxymoron.

Wild animals don't believe in god. They do what they want and make their own choices. (free will) They have emotions. Elephants cry and miss their loved ones and other animals also do this. Believing in god doesn't make your life meaningful. Believing in yourself does. Many times family pets have saved their owners from things like fire and other disasters and selfless acts like dogs protecting their owners from intruders and other things.

I think you're missing the point.

A disbelief in a complete physical existence means by definition that those things can't exist.
Everything is predetermined.

If that is true then things like love (which can't be forced) don't make any fundamental sense.

>If i point a gun at you and say "love me" is that really love?

No its not, so then saying that there is no god and everything is predetermined means that things like love can't exist.

belief*

You can't force religion or beliefs on a person either, just like love. God does not have to exist for me to fall in love with someone nor does it have to be predetermined. I am able to come up with my own conclusion myself as to if I love someone or not and it has nothing to do with any god. If it did then believing in god would actually make it predetermined, not the other way around. Just like every one who says god has a plan for you or this person or that person. No. It's just the way it works out.

I'm not saying it's wrong for you or anyone to have those beliefs, to each their own and if you need to believe in a god to make you accomplish things in your life, so be it. But I have faith in myself and rely on me to make changes or accomplish goals or find love. Not someone else.

If anything to follow god is to ask to give up a portion of your free will to an imaginary friend. Blind faith is a tool the insecure and mentally deficient use to feel safe and secure.

After all, isn't life just that much easier to simply deny what you cannot comprehend?

The fact that you need to believe in some imaginary guy to give your life meaning just shows that you're the retard here

All of this is true, now what? You might think it is depressing, but that does not make it any less a fact

why not?

I thought the people who believe in a god are the ones who think things are predetermined? "God's Plan" and all that?

Your whole premise is flawed from the start, because you think being an atheist means thinking there is no free will, which is completely fucking retarded. I've never once seen anyone else say that, including stupid trolls like yourself.

Check em

I love jesus and god. They seem to always be there to guide me when I need them most. You the real mvp jesus!!!!!!

Walob. No free will? fuck off, idiot.

Lrn2 determinism faggot, only logical if you don't believe in god. I don't believe in god and determinism is obvious

I believe in aliens more than I would ever believe in this god BS and probably bigfoot and chupacabra more than god also. If anything, god is an alien who placed bigfoot on this world to keep an eye on us and study our habits to find out how to most wisely enslave and use us to their own benefit.

Why am I so happy atm board? I feel like i am truly going to defeat my porn addiction and become the best version of myself? Is it just the sertonin in my brain because it's 420am and i am sleep deprived?

Every person that I have ever known that had religious beliefs was a vile human. I was raised in a religious family and everyone I got to know was using religion as a front or excuse for reprehensible behaviour

Go back to school kid, maybe you'll learn what those words actually mean.

Good for you in being happy to worship something that 99.9.9% is not real but having said that, Why so serious?

b8 thread but w/e, here's my story.

I grew up "religious." I went through the motions, I said the prayers, I read the books, I pretended I felt all these religious powers that be... and never actually felt anything; there was no sign, there were no enlightened thoughts, just my desperation to fit in with those I grew up with. I lived a lie, and one day I realized I wanted to just be free of it. I was 20 and told my parents I wouldn't be going to church any longer, and so they disowned me. The entire town treated me like a deserter, including every single childhood friend I had; I lost my job, transferred campuses, and moved upstate.

I don't want the toxicity of organized religion in my life. I understand some people enjoy the structure of it all, but it's a trap designed to milk you of your happiness and expendable income.

>no free will

How is the disbelief in God connected to the abscence of free will?

>no Emotion

Emotions are connected to certain parts of our brain and Sand niggers thousands of years ago didnt know shit about biology. So theyre real and no one ever questioned that.

>meaningless Existence

our purpose is to pass down DNA and reproduce

>only purpose is to pass down DNA

Accept that its true. Why do people decide to lie to themselves when they also know that its
true.

>love is simply evolutionary way of better passing DNA

Whats wrong with that? Does it make you feel better to believe that love is magic that we cant explain even though we can? Believe whatever you want fag but ima be like

So so true op I agree 100%

Whoa I just read a few of the responses here wtf ya'll are slow. In a world without God none of those things op mentioned COULD exist. I happen to believe they do exist BECAUSE God exists

Why can't dna have free will and emotion?

>believing in political propaganda written by sand peopl

Because without supernatural intervention, DNA is really just chemistry which in itself is just a placeholder for physics. And ultimately mathematics. Any and all changes to DNA, and everything that it influences (everything, human behavior human emotions humanity itself) would have to follow all the laws of physics and mathematics thus barring any kind of deviation like free will or choice.

2 plus 2 doesn't choose to be 4 it HAS to be 4. Similarly if there was no supernatural intervention you would be bound to the same laws and would have no choice in any of you actions or feelings.
I believe we do possess free will, and I believe in God

so what you're saying is God is responsible for petri dish cloned sheep

You're joking right

Um no we are? Again I believe we have free will so we are responsible for our choices, including cloned sheep

dude...you are highly brainwahed... i feel sorry for you .. xD

>666

satan trips of truth have spoken!

posting about a god when the people reading what you think is important are more worried about a post having dubs and trips.........and complaining about the responses you get.

false; belief in god means no free will
emotion is purely our brain releasing chemicals to change our state of mind, soagain wrong, emotion isn't dependent on god, and yeah perpuation of the species is the driving force behind love, it doesn't make it any less important or real, and also people being selfless is herd mentality, whats good for others is good for me, thats why we feel good when we help people, because our survival relied upon living in a group so conformity and ensuring the survival of the group, pretty easy to explain away what you think is reason to believe in god, it's not any less important or less meaningful, but it most certainly has nothing to do with god
6/10 made me reply properly

You are truly am idiot
See

promoting your own post, I see

so 2+2 equals OH SHIT BOB WHERE DID MY LIZARD TAIL GO TO

no friend, i'm just saying that the points op raised are nothing to do with a divine being, and that everything he mention isn't any less meaningful or important, i don't see the point in attaching a higher meaning then what it actually is

Ok sorry for calling you an idiot. I still think you are wrong though. Try to read up on the subject bro