Obsolete shithole organization. Vast majority of the countries do not pay their fair share. We waste billions defending the ungrateful fucks that regularly trash us. We can use those billions and invest it in our infrastructure, healthcare and education instead.
How it was a year ago for Yurotards:
>HURR FUCKING AMERILARDS GET YOUR TROOPS AND BASES OFF OUR COUNTRIES STOP TRYING AGGRESSING ON OTHER COUNTRIES
How Yuroturds act now:
>A-AMERICA PLEASE DON'T LEAVE PLEASE PROTECT US AGAINST RUSSIA PLEASE WE'LL SUCK YOUR DICK THROUGH A GARDEN HOSE DON'T LEAVE US
Yuroshits are like toddlers, never taking responsibility for their own care and defense. Regularly biting the hand that feeds and protects them.
May Putin stick his dick so fucking hard in your Islamic cuckholes that I'll see videos on pornhub of tworussiansoldiersonegermangirl.avi
the only country worth defending is switzerland tbqh. everyone else can fuck off and enjoy the islamic hordes with no limit by cuckmany
Jaxon Long
t. Uneducated American
Aaron Carter
I'm so sick and tire of all these libcucks wishing to keep our military cucked and under us control. when the rightwing gook deathsquads comes and take over I want 10% GDP to military spending, get nukes and go full nk tier nazi militarism. fucking cucks ive had it.
Brody Price
>Implying NATO's purpose is to defend Europe from Islam
Adrian Rogers
>Switzerland >part of NATO
Well you are officially educated enough for your armed forces.
Mason Cook
t .literal faggot
Lucas Cruz
problem is that the only force you could invade is North Korea. Everyone else is way too big for you. no offense
Bentley Roberts
Wtf is this stupid logic. You ruined the soviet union, now you take care of us.
Luke Sanchez
dude just like increase ur defenses lol
Colton Robinson
Shut the fuck up Tyrone Paco del Taco and pay for my protection you manlet sharting bitch
Cooper Myers
>We can use those billions and invest it in our infrastructure, healthcare and education instead You mean cut taxes on the rich :^)
Ian Fisher
I'm honestly so pissed trump has decided not to pull troops out and allow us build nukes to point at japan and go full on operation Barbarossa on the commies gook up north. Trump is just a jewish shill.
James Johnson
>America cucks middle east >middle east cucks Europe for benefits >Europe cucks America for defense
Mason Collins
Do you want to reunite with NK?
Other guy here, we're slowly getting to it.
Justin Morris
I don't think you could take on Japan dude. They would probably militarize if we withdrew from East Asia, and if you attacked them is would be a repeat of ww2.
Nicholas King
An infantry trench in Lithuania.
Brody Collins
too deep. not friendly for US troops
Lincoln Campbell
>defending From who?
Juan Robinson
No just a war of total extermination of the populace so worst korea can have more land but gook rapefugees Just fund the right wing gook death squad. they would probably be trumps greatest ally against potential jap delusions and chink spregs.
Josiah Wilson
*but no rapfugees
Dylan Myers
What are you talking about? We don't need you to defend us from Russia. It's your shitty propaganda that makes people scared of Russia in the first place. Russia is also taking care of the situation in Syria, while you sit there idly and let the catastrophe (that you yourself created) unfold. I really wish America would just keep to itself and stop interfering in international affairs. Hopefully things will change with Trump as president.
Zachary Taylor
Americans sure have a short temper, I hope you don't take too long to calm down, after all we don't want rudeness to cut our partnership short. I'm sure small comments will be ignored in favor for the bigger European picture. We don't want to belittle your contributions. This is all a minor mistake, that will not cast long shadows.
Jace Turner
if you can fight off china you can come live here i would rather korean overlord than chang desu
Aaron Sanchez
How about if you fuck off and take care of your own country
Ian Phillips
Agreed. You're autistic though.
Easton Ward
He hasn't said what he'll do.
Levi Stewart
1. You're a cocksucker
2. The Western powers did take NATO for granted, but with Russia at our side, eastern yuros stayed supportive, despite having to fight your wars.
Logan Cook
The only alliance I'd like to be a part of at this point is ANZUS and maybe with SK but doesn't seem to agree
Colton Brooks
that's what we said for years
Gavin Bell
>We waste billions defending the ungrateful fucks that regularly trash us You don't even pay for your bases, it's us. Just read a little closer.
Adam Wilson
There has been so many dangerous blood thirsty superpowers in the last 50 years which threatened to destroy us. I'm so grateful to have you, world police.
Adam Powell
You fucking retard. First off, NATO members don't pay us, they pay NATO. Even if they paid their dues, not a single cent would go to America. And the US picking up the slack for countries that don't pay is still immensely profitable for us. We make a shit ton of money by being able to trade with them, which wouldn't happen if they were under Russia's sphere of influence.
Charles Moore
America receives a billion dollars a day in foreign investment. That's a billion dollars a day to create jobs for Americans, to build out infrastructure, etc etc. That wouldn't happen if we didn't protect out allies. Sure, some of them need to spend more on their militaries, but threatening to abandon them is absolutely unacceptable.
Tyler Wilson
Never said they were dipshit. We defend Finland even though they aren't part of NATO. We defend every Western European country NATO or not. If Russia launched missiles at Switzerland, you bet your dunb fuck ass we would respond.
Ian Smith
USSR collapsed on itself because socialism is a literal meme.
Jason Jones
This is the only relevant post
>p.s. militaries don't matter in the nuclear era, there will be no WW3 as all relevant states have nukes and even with the most advanced anti missile technology they can only be partially defended against (i.e. stopping the bomb but not the fallout) any direct Russo-American war will end the world and that hurts profits (read: will not happen)
Hunter Campbell
Agreed.
Not making 2% for even one year should automatically suspend a country from the treaty for a minimum of three years, and their suspension can only be lifted at the end of those three years by a 2/3 majority vote if the council.
Getting really sick of countries like Canada, France, and Germany's bullshit.
Aiden James
We no longer will. :^)
Enjoy Putin you slavic trash. How many times has your shithole been raped now?
Adam Phillips
You have to give us some credit. The USSR collapsed so soon because the US ramped up military spending to levels where the USSR couldn't compete, causing them to drain resources from other parts of their economy into their military. THAT is how we caused their collapse.
Zachary Adams
Remember that comic of uncle Sam and that British guy carrying a bunch of cultures and the label was "the white man's burden".
Well, that's basically us. It is America's burden to protect the world against terrorists like isis and Russia and China and iran.
Although it has costs is dearly financially and socially, it is for the good of the world.
Sebastian Hernandez
Well we should delegate it back to Airstrip One. They like feeling important anyway.
Parker Jones
Cut taxes on all income groups dipshit. Especially our massive corporate tax that is also luring businesses away from investing in the US.
Bring back manufacturing jobs and invest it in corporations that bring back their rampant outsourcing to Ping and Pajeet. Improve our shit-tier infrastructure in some states and invest it in education while getting rid of the common core meme.
>b-but defend us against putin muh automation
Fight your battles inbred potatonigger.
Joshua Bennett
Basically this.
I used to feel proud that America is stopping russia and isis from invading the west.
But now, the world needs to fend for themselves. If China really wants to become a superpower, they need to start acting like one and start taking care of our problems like isis and terrorism. We spend way too much on our military and we can't be outpaced for the next 100 years, think about how much good we can do INSIDE our borders in that 100 years.
Justin Hughes
>buttblasted american neets cirklejerk ITT how they "literally saved the world" because few assburgers laughed at their soldiers being short
fucking pathetic
Dominic Jackson
I like spending in our military for equipment because that's an investment in security for both now and the future, what I don't like is the President pissing away money in half a dozen countries at any one time trying to civilize a bunch of savages.
Might as well spend 500 billion dollars trying to fund research on how to herd cats.
And think how many more planes and ships we could have had if we hadn't spend the last 16 years fucking around in at least 1 country ever single day. Shit like that is why despite spending all this money the Navy STILL has about 30 less ships than they're supposed to have.
Lucas Scott
Glad you agree bro.
Owen Foster
>US leaves NATO >US loser superpower status >nothing happens to Europe because this is not the Cold War >EU-Russia relations start to normalize after US pulls out all troops and equipment from European soil
Wouldn't be so bad, although I support NATO. It's funny how so many Drumpf-voters became commie-loving anti-NATO shills but want to spend more on defending Israel.
Jackson Walker
And you barely pay shit and we have no interest in defensing your third world shitholes that should have remained Russian oblasts.
Julian Baker
stop agreeing when i'm insulting you
Thomas Edwards
If Europeans support NATO then they should hit 2% or be suspended.
Grayson Butler
What? We are the only thing stopping russia from reaching Portugal. If I were you I'd start preparing for a Russian invasion
Russia will nuke europe
But I agree with you bro, America needs to focus on America.
Noah Jackson
How it was a year ago for Amerilards: >HURR FUCKING RUSSKIES GET YOUR TROOPS AND BASES OFF OUR COUNTRIES STOP TRYING AGGRESSING ON OTHER COUNTRIES
How Amerilards act now: >R-RUSSIA PLEASE LOVE US PLEASE PROTECT US AGAINST KEKS PLEASE WE'LL SUCK YOUR DICK THROUGH A GARDEN HOSE DON'T HATE US WE LOVE RUSSIA
Tyler Bell
No, let russia be russia, they can do what they want. Cold War is over
Jaxson Anderson
>t. increasingly nervous toilet repair man
Aiden Allen
Half the burgers on here hated Russia in 2014, even more before that.
Benjamin Bennett
>t-they wouldn't trade with us if we didn't defend them
Unironically kill yourself. We are the biggest economy in the world. They would still trade with us because they have to. Look at China. We oppose each other politically and militarily massively yet they remain our biggest trading partners. Simply because it benefits us both economically.
Nobody ever said anything about NATO members defending us. Just that we invest billions into it while the great majority of countries in it don't pay their fair share. You're a fucking idiot if you think this is acceptable.
I don't give a fuck about Ukraine or the rest of the poor Eastern Euro shitholes. Germany can hold its own against Russia. So can the UK and them and France have nukes. They can form their own defense pact instead of us wasting billions on their defense while they sit back and don't pay their fair share.
Dominic Jenkins
Nah Russians are faggots too.
Cooper Mitchell
Yeah it's weird how pro Israel this place is now when JIDF was the go to adhom before cuck.
Levi Barnes
im down for pay for service. if you need us, then pay.
Ian Hernandez
Americans are stupid emotionally volatile people. Who knew?
Brandon Harris
I don't care. I've been only been on Sup Forums since early 2016. This. I'd go a step further and say that we will pull out and if you want US troops stationed in your land. Pay us
Samuel Taylor
Not him obviously but I'd be fine with NATO is a provision was added to it along these line
Nicholas Wright
Nope.
We will remain a superpower simply because we have the largest economy and military strength in the world.
You do realize Trump is going to increase military expenditure correct? But it will be used for our national defense and our territories. Not some fucking bumfuck alcoholic eastern euro shitholes.
Logan Walker
>You're a fucking idiot if you think this is acceptable. I didn't say it was acceptable, I said threatening to abandoning our allies was equally unacceptable and we need to find another way to get people to pay up.
Also, several countries have and will turned their countries away from the US and towards Russia.
Tyler Bennett
>We are the only thing stopping russia from reaching Portugal
Adrian Sanchez
For the first time since forever, I will proudly display the US flag again. I feel so proud to be american ever since I now realize US troops will now serve the US not some shithole across the ocean
William Phillips
They can hold their own against Russia. France and the UK have nukes. Germany, France and the UK all have very strong militaries.
What should happen is for the EU to form their own massive military. What shouldn't happen is us continuing to waste billions defending these ungrateful fucks that don't pay their fair share or just barely pay it.
Isaac Nelson
Bring our boys back home!!
Brayden Gonzalez
Isn't this the much feared police state both sides opposed when Bush was president. Now that an orange is selling it to you, you love it?
Grayson Nelson
>Also, several countries have and will turned their countries away from the US and towards Russia What like Turkey and Germany? Good fucking riddance.
Tyler Adams
t. high educated shitskin
David King
How the fuck is increased defense spending a police state you faggot fucking leaf?
Jace Bell
>What should happen is for the EU to form their own massive military. This opens up the possibility that the EU becomes truly independent, which would weaken the US.
Connor Morris
There's 16.000 billion dollars worth reasons that nothing works in usa, you're owned by china.. Pay you're depst, you trump whore
Carson Diaz
Trump only needs to do this: ''Increase your military spending or america leaves NATO'' and you'll see how europe panics
Hunter Thompson
>several countries have turned away from the US
Not economically. They will continue to trade massively with the US like it or not. Like how we are massive trading partners with China despite hatinf the shit out of each other.
Gabriel Bailey
A huge military for the sole purpose of naval gazing. But sure clearly somebody who had their first election last year remembers the (rightful) outrage surrounding this when Bush was around.
Benjamin Martinez
I agree simply because those were the rules signed by everyone, but it wouldn't change a thing for the US. You'd still spend as much money. Your military-industry complex does that.
>instead of us wasting billions on their defense How are you paying anything that you wouldn't have paid anyway without NATO?
>pulling out of NATO and losing your most trustworthy military partners >worsening US-EU relations >worsening US-China relations >losing the Middle East to Russia/Iran >losing the SCS to China
Being a superpower means you project power anywhere in the world. If you pull out of NATO and Trump continues this path he's on, you will lose that.
Adrian Rogers
I wish he would but technically he can't because our treaties are ratified and canceled by the Senate. I'd say odds are pretty good EU leadership knows that.
Nathan Sanchez
Mmm yes. Like all the non-US military pacts have weakened us? Oh wait.
Elijah Gonzalez
>russia No LatAm is pivoting to China and the EU is starting to as well including traditional cock suckers like Poland. If anything America is pivoting to Russia.
Julian Morales
America needs to pull our of NATO
Jace Perry
Aren't you tired of bringing up the short spics? Stick to the topic, asswipe.
Daniel Ross
I'm 31 you homo, and I assume you're talking about Bush 1 not W, as W sure as shit used to military.
The spending under Bush 1 was much higher than it is today, there is a happy medium berserk underfunding the military while asking them to fight constant war and spening 5.5% GDP when you're at relative peace.
Isaiah Hernandez
Name one (1) reason why you think Russia wants to invade/nuke Europe. protip: you can't
Matthew Price
>it hasn't happened yet so it'll never happen!
Angel Moore
It's russia, you'll never know, but they will invade eventually
Nathan Brown
Please leave
I've heard people shit talking America and specifically the US military.
When Serbia and Russia attack I'll be long gone from this shithole kekking with the force of a billion Suns
, wonder if they'll have to scrape the bottom of the barrel since last time there was war in Croatia, most Croat able bodied men fled like the pussies they are
Nolan Hernandez
>how are you paying anything that you wouldn't have paid without nato
Look at how much money we spend on NATO every year. That money can be used on our own country and people instead. Defend your own shit Van Dijk. Even if we weren't to spend the billions saved, in our current condition, less federal spending is a good thing.
>y-you'll lose your superpower status
Not as long as we remain the largest economy and have the strongest military.
Evan Bennett
>Russia >invading
kek nigger what are you smoking. They wouldn't be able to afford a full scale offensive war on foreign soil anyway.
Nicholas Myers
I can't.
Your leaders do hence the panic.
Jace Long
t. kremlin proxy trying to sew discord fuck off
Colton Bell
You mean who actually funds NATO? US 22%, Germany 15%, France 11%, UK 10%, Italy 8%, etc. So you don't actually spend that much on NATO compared to other countries.
Anthony Martin
I doubt Trump is posting here.
John Thompson
The purpose of the Nato was foremost to prevent a Russo-German alliance. Keeping Germany down and Russia out. If you got rid of it it would hurt you more than Europe.