So was Van Pelt another player that was sucked into the board
the timeline of the film actually matches up as it would have been the 1800's where his outfit came from, as well the fact his bullets were actually our world bullets, instead of magical board game bullets.
I mean, think of it. >Old retired hunter >bored with life >discovers board game that can create the greatest challenge all for the price of what? One single town? as opposed to spending x amount of money to go off to some jungle. >of course, playing the game many, many times, he rolled the dice that forced him (like Alan) into the board. >As a dying old man, he lived and breathed the game for the simple joy of the hunt. Now he can be part of the game forever
Wasnt he explained as someone who appeared via a roll of dice? If so, then no.
Dylan Young
Well, Alan appeared via a roll of dice.
Cameron Brooks
Only because he was playing the game at the time, not sure this counts but its an interesting question.
Camden Jackson
Alot of people would say "no, because he was on the board"
honestly, that feels like a yes and no kind of thing.
The board game itself seems like it's way too high quality to be something to be made before the 1800's (assuming the game is centuries old) and with the game board itself able to literally bend time and space itself, it is not impossible to believe that the board could change it's appearance depending on the person or the game being played.
What the game that Alan and those kids were playing may not have looked the same as it did back in the 1800's
it's not much of a theory, but it's all I got. The most interesting thing about the movie itself is the mystery in the boardgame.
Henry Jones
pelt seems like he literally on the board though, however, as you pointed out, I don't think the rules of the game match exactly the rules of this universe, those creatures and pictures aren't static from culture to culture.
Caleb Cook
So like if you sat down to have a conversation with this guy, and asked him about his childhood, would he talk about what life was like in Victorian London, and whistle old cockney airs popular at the time, and tell stories about how he as a boy was best friends with so-and-so the son of Lord Whateversmith's gamekeeper, which is what first piqued his interest in hunting, and you could look up the guy's name and trace his family line and introduce him to his distant relatives? Would his existence invalidate certain peerages or inheritances? Would historians be able to interview him and fill in crucial blanks about our understanding of the Colonial era? Would he be susceptible to the virgin soil effect of current communicable diseases? How would he treat black people?
Isaiah Bennett
Are you retarded? Van Pelt represents his dad and is played by the same actor. The fact that he's on the board is irrelevant. The game changes to be whatever the player needs.
Zathora is what the game turns into for the next set of kids to find it.
Hudson Morales
>whistle old cockney
fuck you for reminding me
Oliver Hernandez
>How would he treat black people?
African big game hunters generally get along well with niggers.
Aiden Cook
he didn't seem to have any personality or even agency outside of playing his part in the game. i suspect it would be completely impossible to have a real conversation with him
Michael Parker
he was Robin Williams father he didn't actually die he got sucked into the game
Brayden Robinson
how shitty was it when you went to the store to buy jumanji the board game and got this piece of crap instead of your pic.
Anthony Collins
He was a character in the game. He's literally part of Jumanji.
Alexander Powell
Of course.
Nathan Lopez
The opening scene when he finds it in the construction site and pulls the mud and dirt away is so satisfying
Luis Jenkins
>and is played by the same actor
Fuuuuuuug
Sebastian Wilson
Will this ever get the reboot is so desperately needs? The movie we have is ok but it focuses way too much on the real world stuff rather than the world of Jumanji itself. I remember the cartoon being pretty good as a kid, it looked fantastic. A dark jungle with industrial type stuff mixed in to give it a kind iof steampunk feel. That's what thr movie needs.
Nicholas Richardson
The Rock is doing a reboot
Aaron Howard
Who is this semen demon?
Carter Brooks
Yeah Van Pelt was just Robin Williams' character's greatest fear... his disappointed, uninterested father out to kill him. Just fitted into the image/aesthetic of the game.
David Nguyen
If he was a real human he would be more interested in the future he found himself in, things like cars and stuff, like Alan was. As it was, he seemed completely singleminded about hunting down and shooting the players. Nothing at all seemed to cross his mind other than "shoot shoot shoot". He's just a game construct.
>his bullets were actually our world bullets everything the game made seemed real in all ways. The elephants crushed things, the water made things wet and could be swam in, and yes the bullets fucking killed you
Dominic Reyes
Oh please god no.
Anybody seen Journey to the Mysterious Island? He's fucking terrible in that, and its a similar kind of thing to Jumanji. I don't want to see the Rock in anymore kids movies.
It's supposed to be a representation of his dad has other anons have said.
Ryder Cruz
literally Djura from Bloodborne
Colton Williams
In the cartoon, which I like better than the movie, Van Pelt and a series of other characters are part of the game and not actual people, made to pose as threats inside the world of Jumanji.
So if Alan or any of the characters died due to whatever was unleashed from the board, would that mean they would be dead permanently or just dead until the game could be completed?
Nathan Sanchez
>Makes you feel just like a child >Not good enough sonny jim
Disappointed dad confirmed.
Blake Williams
While not exactly canon to the movie the cartoon series established that the board game was sentient and incorporated things and people to its world that it sucked in from all over
Some loved it like Van Pelt while others like Alan always looked for a permanent escape, either way only the strongest survived
Jason Allen
Actually Van Pelt in the cartoons is a character of the game and not an outside human. He's an element of the game, in one episode the kid "kills" him some way, and he starts turning into the new Van Pelt. So yeah, Jumanji characters are pivotal to the game and not players that stayed (in other episodes outside people appears normally)
Josiah Nelson
Considering Alan was trapped in the game for 26 years I'd say that if you get killed you are dead for real. Then again, once they finished the game Alan and his girl became kids again so I guess you respawn once someone else wins. If you were playing by yourself well... tough luck.
James Ward
Shit you're right but I swore there were others trapped in the game like Alan that adapted to just living there.
99% sure Alan at one point gave up an escape to let another guy that was there even longer escape
Nicholas Reyes
In one of the episodes, a voice tells them that there's an exit to Jumanji through a field of mazes and traps. In the end he was trying to lure people to solve his riddle, which was some kind of false portal out that you were supposed to figure out but not really. Accepting defeat was actually his riddle or something, and he gets to go back.
Then in one episode, a plane pilot crashes into Jumanji through a cloth like tear in the sky, so it's implied that Jumanji has connections to the real world outside of the game itself. The sun is also revealed to be fake in that episode.
I have good memory about cartoons I watched as a kid, what can I say.
Lucas Foster
>If you were playing by yourself well... tough luck. Only if 3 others died too. As shown it doesn't stop just because the current players stopped. New players can jump in at any time.
Jack Foster
>Zathora is what the game turns into for the next set of kids to find it
is that actually true or is that just your headcannon
Jayden Reyes
Probably a bit of both. It is a sequel, but as far as movies go it isn't explicitly told.
Samuel Parker
>it is not impossible to believe that the board could change it's appearance depending on the person or the game being played.
Well I hate to think what it will look in the new movie. Probably a freemium phone game or something.
Jordan Perry
I was under the impression that he was a manifestation of Alex's fear of his father.
David Lopez
>alex Alan, my bad
Benjamin Nelson
Hes his dad...
Ian Nguyen
was this thread really necessary?
Luke Edwards
Considering Van Pelt and Alan's father were played by the same actor, they were kind of laying it on thick...
Lincoln Morales
Alan needed someone to roll a 5 or something to get out and the girl stopped playing for all those years until the kids started the game and they rolled that 5, which summoned him from the game.
he literally needed a specific number to be let out whereas the Hunter didn't need a specific number but was just a random event the board game unleashed.
Easton Phillips
>mindlessly kill for your own base pleasure using cowardly tactics >get along well with nigs
Hmm.
Oliver Flores
Oh. That settles it then. Had he been someone that the game sucked in, he couldn't possibly be alive after a hundred years...
Carter Morgan
What if the game was won without anyone rolling a 5 or 8?
Robert Bailey
Thanks user, now I feel retarded for never noticing it's the same actor.
Logan Baker
>Sup Forums discussing Jumanji lore woah
Evan Foster
The game absorbs you, and you become part of it, just like Van Pelt.
Nathan Butler
Alan aged inside the game though
That should apply to Van Pelt too, and he would be long dead
He's just apart of the game
Isaiah Hall
What if The Matrix is just another Jumanji/Zathura game?
Nathan Morgan
at least the Zathura board game had the whole card feeder thing, if you could make it work.
Eli Russell
>is not impossible to believe that the board could change it's appearance depending on the person or the game being played. This statement supports "Jumanji board is Zathura". Fuck you.
Jackson Bailey
Do you count the animated series as canon?
Because in the animated series he's very clearly a default part of the world.
Thomas Turner
WHAT IF OBI-WAN OR SHEEV PLAYED THE GAME AND GOT SUCKED IN
Juan Sullivan
Am I being memed on or is everyone a retard?
>It's the same actor >That means he's playing the same part in different realities >Even though his name which always alludes to things like this, doesn't allude to this
So it's not more logical that they had the actor play two separate roles rather than hire two separate actors and fork out even more money?
Xavier Powell
That wasn't even the question. Some answers just derailed to that topic.
I also agree with you, since it's obvious it was never implied Alan saw him as a representation of his own father. Otherwise the movie/Alan would have addressed it along the lines of "Hey, quick, let's escape kids. This hunter that looks just like my dad is coming to kill us! Isn't he an asshole? LOL"
John Adams
>"Hey, quick, let's escape kids. This hunter that looks just like my dad is coming to kill us! Isn't he an asshole? LOL" who the fuck would unironically would have a reaction like this?
that's like saying Silent Hill should have reactions like this
>Lol, big flesh head is my penis.
Nathan Perry
It has a lot of guess work, potentially, it could be amazing?
like was it made with the souls of the damn?
Cameron Jones
I caught the last half of zathora on fx and that's pretty much what I thaught too.
Nicholas Wood
That's exactly what proves that it was never implied the father and the hunter were the same. It was a nod to the audience but not to Alan. Otherwise, why would he thought fondly of his father while talking to other characters, if he spend half his life running from his murderous attempts? It doesn't work. It would also be some gruesome hell having what you recognize as your rather hunt you down like an animal, it's not poetry, it's plain sadistic.
Brayden Green
What if jumanji was a mod in the matrix?
Ryder Baker
*spent *what you recognize as your father Sorry. Autocorrect happened.
Nathaniel Sanders
The creator of Jumanji didn't like the movie, so he made Zathura
Evan Williams
YES
Blake Mitchell
He's was a metaphor for Alan's dad, you fucking plebfaggot.
Nathan Rodriguez
This movie scared the shit out of me as a kid.
I can't really put a finger on exactly why though. There was some freaky stuff in the movie sure, but nothing worse than any other movie I had seen.
Nathan Rogers
This. He would be an amalgam of several hunters famous of that period and draw a desire to know more about the maker of the game which is the most interesting thing Jumanji has going on in it as this user points out: >The most interesting thing about the movie itself is the mystery in the boardgame.
Jose Clark
holy shit. Can we get a side by side? My mind's been btfo.
Levi Murphy
...
Lucas Ward
The hunter's tenacity really disturbed me when I was a kid and is still kind of freaky. The fact that he has the form of a human and can speak, think, and strategize, but utterly lacks any sort of human compassion and reasoning in his single-minded mission to kill people.
Nathan Johnson
Yet some fuckers in this thread insist that he is either the father, or a metaphor of it.
That would be fucked up.
They definitely used the same actor as a nod to the audience, or to keep within budget, but it doesn't work within the story itself.
Henry Edwards
I figured he was just a part of the game. Remember when he had that one lady captive, and she asked him why and he said something like >You didn't roll the dice, Alan did
Also, something more fucked up - why was Van Pelt hunting a child in the first place? Alan seemed to remember this guy from the jungle. How long was he being hunted for? Was there some sort of history there?
This is far more interesting than it should be.
Joshua Gomez
in the scene when he comes back to the house, Alan says he never heard of him until the dice roll
Jose Johnson
Wait a minute, but what about when he rolls the dice? >A hunter from the deepest wild makes you feel just like a child and Alan whispers >...Van Pelt...
Seems like the movie fucked up
Eli Brown
alan probably met van pelt before and knew that he hunted people, but he himself was never the target.
Matthew Jenkins
Little kid: Dad what's this? The Rock: This my son is a board game, we used to play them back in my day *kid rolls eyes Kevin Hart: Ahhh hell no, board games? More like bored games!!!!!
Zachary Peterson
He knew exactly who he was.
"A hunter from the darkest wild. Makes you feel just like a child."
At this point it's rather confusing because it would be illogical to have this hunter hunt him for 26 years, and no apparent reason, but also, as I said, Alan knew exactly what was coming. Plus Von Pelt talked to him as an old for, not some newly acquired target to hunt...
Jason Williams
> people didn't get this Shit. I got that when I saw itnin thearters as a kid.
Bentley Howard
> characters never lie, especially when confronted with something that terrifies them
Anthony Torres
Serial child-rapist Eli Manning
Jaxon Smith
...
Ryan Sanders
He's also in The Mummy and Titanic.
one of my first favorite "that guy" actors
Nathan Thomas
No. He was basically an automaton that was part of the game and set to hunt the player.
Jordan Wood
holy fuck dude you just made me feel smart as shit
how are we the only two that noticed its the same actor?
fucking only patricians pay attention to detail
anyway like user kinda said it would change depending on who rolled
if it was kirstens character who made that roll then it wouldve probably been her father or mother or most likely her aunt
Robert Thompson
Oh shit it is that guy >YOU MUSTN'T READ FROM THE BOOK
Isaac Allen
How are you gonna have a boardgame themed after colonial Africa without the white hunter? Of course Van Pelt was of the game, not the real world.
Juan Bell
Holy shit you're all retarded. Its his father. His father wanted him dead because he was a little faggot who wouldn't go to the scared straight camp for confused young lads. He had a name in that town and some little gaywad wasn't about to taint it. Did you even watch the movie?
Joshua Perez
Are people meming? How face blind retarded do you have to be to not immediately know its the same dude? Please tell me you people were joking. There's no way you can be that autistic
Asher White
Alan was summoned with the roll of a 5 or an 8. That was his escape condition.
The board was summoning a lion at the time. The square had nothing to do with Alan.
Van Pelt was an actual summon. Unless he was sucked into the board permanently as punishment, he wouldn't be a player.
Aaron Cox
the game specifically states that it resets when the game finishes, it even turned back time to set things back to normal so there is no reason to think alan would not have been released at the end of the game if 5 or 8 wasn't rolled.
Jackson Wilson
You sure he's not talking about the dice roll that sucked him into the game?
Jason Baker
This.
It would have just meant that players had a handicap of playing as 3 instead of 4.
Though, less crazy summons might be a good thing.
Kevin White
We are talking about a movie that mostly everybody in this discussion saw as kids, sperglord. Kids don't notice this stuff in everyday life, much less when watching a flick. Plus the father appeared for a grand total of thirty seconds of the movie.