Is this faggot the most overrated musician/singer/songwriter/guitarist in all of music?

Is this faggot the most overrated musician/singer/songwriter/guitarist in all of music?

His records are boring and bland, and live shows just the same except 4 hours long, and his fanbase is obnoxiously toxic.

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>his fanbase is obnoxiously toxic

what?

You've never been to New Jersey, have you?

Born to Run [Columbia, 1975]

Just how much American myth can be crammed into one song, or a dozen, about asking your girl to come take a ride? A lot, but not as much as romanticists of the doomed outsider believe. Springsteen needs to learn that operettic pomposity insults the Ronettes and that pseudotragic beautiful-loser fatalism insults us all. And around now I'd better add that the man avoids these quibbles at his best and simply runs them over the rest of the time. If "She's the One" fails the memory of Phil Spector's innocent grandeur, well, the title cut is the fulfillment of everything "Be My Baby" was about and lots more. Springsteen may well turn out to be one of those rare self-conscious primitives who gets away with it. In closing, two comments from my friends the Marcuses. Jenny: "Who does he think he is, Howard Keel?" (That's a put-down.) Greil: "That is as good as `I Think We're Alone Now.'" (That's not.) A

Nebraska [Columbia, 1982]

Literary worth is established with the title tune, in which Springsteen's Charlie Starkweather becomes the first mass murderer in the history of socially relevant singer-songwriting to entertain a revealing thought--wants his pretty baby to sit in his lap when he gets the chair. Good thing he didn't turn that one into a rousing rocker, wouldn't you say, though (Hüsker Dü please note) I grant that some hardcore atonality might also produce the appropriate alienation effect. But the music is a problem here--unlike, er, Dylan, or Robert Johnson, or Johnny Shines or Si Kahn or Kevin Coyne, Springsteen isn't imaginative enough vocally or melodically to enrich these bitter tales of late capitalism with nothing but a guitar, a harmonica, and a few brave arrangements. Still, this is a conceptual coup, especially since it's selling. What better way to set right the misleading premise that rock and roll equals liberation? A-

Springsteen? Real fans call him "Bruce".

Hey buddy. That was a trick. REAL fans call him "The Boss".

You're not a real fan! I have 563 CD and 463 cassette concert bootlegs in my house! I own copies of his studio albums on all formats: cassette, vinyl, 8 track, CD, remastered CD, MP3 for my phone, FLAC for my external "Boss" drive. Fucking poser. I'VE SEEN HIM AT THE MEADOWLANDS 27 TIMES! IF YOU DON'T THINK HE'S THE GREATEST LEGEND OF ALL TIME, YOU'RE A FUCKING MORON! BRUCE HAVE MY BABIES!!!!

Now, out of my way, buddy, I have a sporting event to attend.

Nice attempt you stupid cunt.

>m-muh overrated buzzword!

go watch death grips meme videos you fucking ingrate

Born in the USA [Columbia, 1984]

Imperceptible though the movement has been to many sensitive young people, Springsteen has evolved. In fact, this apparent retrenchment is his most rhythmically propulsive, vocally incisive, lyrically balanced, and commercially undeniable album. Even his compulsive studio habits work for him: the aural vibrancy of the thing reminds me like nothing in years that what teenagers loved about rock and roll wasn't that it was catchy or even vibrant but that it just plain sounded good. And while Nebraska's one-note vision may be more left-correct, my instincts (not to mention my leftism) tell me that this uptempo worldview is truer. Hardly ride-off-into-the-sunset stuff, at the same time it's low on nostalgia and beautiful losers. Not counting the title powerhouse, the best songs slip by at first because their tone is so lifelike: the fast-stepping "Working on the Highway," which turns out to be about a country road gang: "Darlington County," which pins down the futility of a macho spree without undercutting its exuberance; and "Glory Days," which finally acknowledges that among other things, getting old is a good joke. A+

Good lyrics
Charismatic af
Great, fun, and innovative back-up band

>
No, he's really good

>Glory Days

Didn't Nickelback make this same exact song?

Bruce fans, please save this thread from neo-Sup Forums's wrath and random right wing extremists

>SJW millionaire with a fake tax farm he uses to dodge those huge Democrat taxes he loves so much
>claims to be a voice to Joe Beer Gut

No idea, one of the most generic dadrock/stadium rock artists ever (and that's saying something).

>YEE HAW AMERICA LET ME SING YOU SOME STORIES ABOUT YOUNG WORKING CLASS FOLK IN A STRAINED VOICE DESPITE THE FACT THAT I'M TYPICAL LIBERAL MILLIONARE CELEB WHO SUPPORTS CLINTON AND SJW BS

Critics all creamed themselves over this guy, but I find him very boring and dire.

basically yee yee murrica: the artist
only retarded rednecks, grandpas, and exceedingly old dads enjoy him

The guy's vocals and guitar skills are so limited that he needed some of the best backing musicians in the world and has to have 4 hour long shows and showman theatrics to make himself sound remotely good/seem decently exciting.

And even then he still sucks because he's a one note songwriter.

I mean, yeah...his songs weren't bad for the 80s though they are really, really rooted in the culture of working class baby boomers and don't really translate today.

>his songs weren't bad for the 80s though
Yes they were. There were dozens of better pop acts in the 80s and hundreds of better rock acts.

>And even then he still sucks because he's a one note songwriter

Then again, that's 90% of all artists. They say once you've heard the first or second album in an artist/band's discography, you've basically heard everything they have to say.

To be fair, The Nylon Curtain is a better album than BITUSA if you like songs about the ennui of working class baby boomers.

Uh, not true. Just look at Kanye, David Bowie, Radiohead, etc.

After BITUSA, he really pretty much stopped trying.

Man, with that number of IP's, one dude must really hate Bruce

This is weirdly accurate. I was a late bloomer to Springsteen and still only really like his early stuff, but saw him live last summer. Every person I talked to (who were almost all twice my age if not older) had seen him live dozens of times, obsessively talked about how long his set lists were and other trivia, and somehow had seen him on that current tour between several and ten times. I really am not exaggerating when I say everyone I talked to had seen him a bizarre amount live.
Awesome show though. Certain things were pretty hokey with audience interaction but the band really is solid.

>After BITUSA, he really pretty much stopped trying.
Tunnel of Love was good though, but that tour and onward was the point were he just completely lost the plot. Early 90s Bruce was horrific.

He definitely had a bit of a resurgence in the mid-late 90s through the late 00s, though he's gone pretty shit again.

>But the music is a problem here--unlike, er, Dylan, or Robert Johnson, or Johnny Shines or Si Kahn or Kevin Coyne, Springsteen isn't imaginative enough vocally or melodically to enrich these bitter tales of late capitalism with nothing but a guitar, a harmonica, and a few brave arrangements

Thanks for admitting what we knew all along, Bob.

Give him a couple chips and we'll see him in the casino.

The guy is more like a weird cult than a musician.

Still a powerhouse live and daring as fuck to wear tight jeans in his 60s.

>as if baby boomers ever had any real hardship in their life

Somebody's triggered.

I can guarantee you that anyone that doesn't at least have respect for him hasn't listened to the Born to Run album in full. It's got the energy flowing through it that most albums wish they could have.

But yeah, keep dismissing Bruce because of the big USA song that wasn't even positively patriotic.

corny boomers listening to contrived songs about the wekin man and general libshit bullshit

And some Gen Xer women who thought Bruce was cute when they were teens in the BITUSA days.

You all heard how they used BITUSA in a Reagan campaign ad and that Springsteen complained about it, saying "I don't think the president really understood the point of the song." Reagan also watched Rambo II with Sylvester Stallone at a private White House screening. He reportedly enjoyed the movie, but Stallone as well said that he thought the president didn't "get" the message of it.

I could see that. Ronald Reagan was an old guy, the baby boomer cynicism in BITUSA and Rambo probably went over his head. He likely thought Rambo was one of those patriotic flicks like he used to make during WWII where they just kick the shit out of Japanese and it's all very heroic and flag-waving.

>Rambo II
>not a retarded 80s chest thumping USA movie

maybe first blood but Rambo II was pure 80s conservokino

they are all retarded movies

They weren't wrong. The US government has always quietly had it in for Vietnam vets, they perceive them as losers who lost a war and embarrassed the nation and the military, and they can't wait for all of them to die off.

>t. 12 year old

reagan literally had alzheimers during his presidency. imagine how much better the USA would have been if they shipped this fascist retard overseas to die in WW2

All samefag. All asshurt Tumblrite.

The 2000s-2010s equivalent of Rambo are FPS games where you headshot terrorists.

I don't think I've ever met anyone who's so much as mentioned his name in passing. yet another advantage to living in the uk

Yeah but a lot crappier.

You have it 100x worse because in Bongland, they were subjected to the horror of Oasis fans.

I'm convinced there's just one retard who keeps posting this thread over and over again

The Boss rules faggot

I only like New York City Serenade, but man is that track GOAT

Cute, Bruce's nephew posts on Sup Forums.

Can't sing

Plays a guitar at the level of a 15 year old who just got his first guitar

Songs aren't bad if you're a 50 year old guy who drives a Chevy Silverado

YEAH boy kill the yellow man!!!!

>yet another advantage to living in the uk
Didn't he play to like 80,000 people at Hyde Park a year or two ago.

I haven't heard much Springsteen besides his singles that still get radioplay but this song is incredible
youtube.com/watch?v=M3eu1gW-bQ8

>they were subjected to the horror of Oasis fans.
Oasis' first few records are fine, but god the fans are horrid. Literally just mentally retarded chavs and football hooligans who are on the dole and spend all their time getting drunk and fighting.

Springsteen is nowhere near that bad because his most obnoxious fans are mostly confined to one small state and at least the guy did have something meaningful to say in his songs which Oasis...did not.

I SAID, MAYBE...

I DON'T REALLY WANT TO KNOAAAWWW

nope, it's OP's mom.

Oasis are fucking irrelevant. They're not popular and never really were. One hit wonder at best.

Bruce is a whole different story.

Bruce is a fucking hero. You fags might understand when you're a little older

Fuckin wish I was Bruce's nephew

Bruce can shred faggot

>Oasis are fucking irrelevant. They're not popular and never really were. One hit wonder at best.
I don't even like Oasis, but this is not true at all. They had like 10 number 1 hits. If they were to reunite tomorrow, I guarantee the tickets for their concert would sell out in less than a minute.

hello grandpa

tunnel of love is GOAT

>dat tougher than the rest
>dat walk like a man
>dat brilliant disguise
>dat one step up

He's the Tame Impala of the 80's, OP

what does this even mean?

...

I listened to a couple of his albums, I thought they were good.

I think it's hilarious how Jersey Republicans like Chris Christie have to treat Bruce like a God even though he shits on them.

Thread shitting on Bruce Springsteen, featuring such hits as:

>he's a liberal!!!
>shitty murica music
>he doesn't know how to play a guitar
>the state of new jersey
>comparison to tame impala

end yourself Sup Forums

Also Christgau likes him which is proof in of itself that Springsteen is shit.

Everyone knows the most overrated band is Queen

I don't think a US Oasis reunion would really get much traction but i probably have no clue how big they really were in the UK. That kind of alt rock really isn't remembered that fondly over here.

You said the same thing earlier.

He's pretty critical about his country. And loving your country isn't bad as long as isn't some kind of patriotic bullshit.

no

i'm not touching this thread with a 10 foot pole

Watch out, pal, you're talking about the Boss right there, a man with more talent than your favorite "patrisian" musicians that are posted to death in this board.
I mean i haven't seen a single valid argument that explains why Bruce Springsteen is bad, actually faggots in this board never make solid arguments about anything, it's just "hahah shit artist lmao"

>i'm not touching this thread with a 10 foot pole
Why not?

>I mean i haven't seen a single valid argument that explains why Bruce Springsteen is bad

1. He can't sing his way out of a paper bag
2. He can't play his way out of a paper bag
3. He's a fake liberal douchenozzle who claims to be the voice of the little guy when he flies around in a private jet and has a fake tax farm
4. He's like the ultimate symbol of dadrock cancer--this is the shit that middle aged men listen to while washing their car
5. He's a favorite of music critics which should clue you in that he's shit
6. His fans are astoundingly cancerous

this

this guy thinks born in the usa is praising the country

shut up

The amount of angry conservatives in this thread lmao

I never subscribed to the whole Springsteen cult or his fanbase who border on Deadhead levels of obsession. It's fucking insane how many people will pay money to see the same show over and over and over. It doesn't make sense. He wasn't bad for his day, but most of his music is stupidly dated. He's hardly a bad artist, but not worth the dicksucking he receives by any stretch.

Agreed. My dad is a diehard springsteen nut and deadhead. They both had a string of classic albums and their live performances (certainly in the Dead's case) were extended their recorded work into different forms and more engaging territory, for sure. The Dead pioneered the whole "jam band" style with their live performances for better or worse. Bruce is notorious for his energetic showmanship and audience engagement throughout his often 3 to 4 hour concerts. But god people just fucking OBSESS over them.

The problem with Springsteen is that he almost too predictably turned into a jetsetting celebrity with BITUSA and lost touch with real people. His career from the 90s onward was vomit-inducing.

Even the most cynical among us of course would have to acknowledge that he was a voice to disaffected Rust Belt chilluns in the 70s-early 80s. Also in context, he achieved mainstream success/Top 40 airplay at a time when radio was full of trash like Night Ranger and REO Speedwagon. But like his comrade-in-arms Billy Joel, who also came across as refreshing and real in the 70s, he turned into complete cancer with success/time.

So you've never listened to him?

Okay?

Springsteen is fantastic. Greetings from Asbury Park ... born to run ... darkness on the edge of town ... ghost of tom joad ... all fantastic albums. even some of his recent stuff is pretty good. also puts on a great, fun show.

>spends 5 minutes on Sup Forums

>I care more about the image that will be placed on me for listening to an artist, rather then the actual music of the artist.

A lot of people miss out on where Springsteen was coming from, even his diehard fans.

Columbia originally signed him as a folk singer/songwriter in the James Taylor mould and that was all. Even after his debut album, the E Street Band didn't actually exist--they were basically session musicians Bruce had played with before and knew pretty well. The band were mostly an extension of his creative vision, later on he said ESB was basically "a glorified bar band".

The upshot is that people should realize that ESB and Bruce were not a true rock group in the sense that the Rolling Stones or U2 were, they were merely an extension of Bruce's songwriting "system". They were good at what they did, but as straight rock-and-roll, real bands like the Stones were better.

>His career from the 90s onward was vomit-inducing

Eh? Springsteen has had by far, uncontested, the longest run of songwriting brilliance ever, in rock and roll. He has been writing A level songs for 40 years - think about that in context of a 7 year Beatles run and really a 7 year run of Rolling Stones A level songwriting. I think much of his later work is outstanding and would have made him a star even had he never written born to run or born in the USA.

Is this nigger serious? Bruce has been running on fumes for decades now. Since you haven't noticed this, you must live in New Jersey.

Yeah he sucks but the most overrated band ever? That title belongs to Metallica.

Dude's live shows are amazing, he still plays 3-4 hour sets and he's getting close to 70. He rarely disappoints, although the E Street Band phone it in a lot of times. Also except when he does folk songs, his concerts have too many horns to be a real "rock" concert. I mean, four hours of horn rock isn't something you need to see multiple times. Fantastic songwriter and performer, even if he should have dropped the ESB a long time ago.

I always felt The River was his most overrated album.

>songwriting bordering on self-parody
>overly gloomy and doomy view of working class life
>fair bit of sexism

The Ghost of Tom Joad is his most underrated album IMO. Of the acoustic trio (Nebraska, Joad, and D&D), Nebraska is the most critically favored because it's been around the longest and was released during his commercial heyday.

Having said that, TGOTJ is a more mature, developed album (Bruce's being much older and more experienced was a plus) and song by song is better. It's more musical than Nebraska and this element also adds to, rather than distracts from the songs the way D&D does. Nebraska is a very psychological, from-the-gut record, while Joad is similar, but adds an element of social analysis. Nebraska was mostly born from Bruce's struggle at the time with depression, but came to be widely seen as a political statement. Joad however was always intended to be political.

Joad has a more expansive message to its songs, it likens Mexican immigrants to Dust Bowl refugees and also points out that Vietnamese people suffered from the war as much as American vets, challenging us to empathize with people we normally wouldn't even think about.

IMO Joad was his finest work after Tunnel.

>Joad has a more expansive message to its songs, it likens Mexican immigrants to Dust Bowl refugees

Sure they are, Bruce.

>MS-13 gangbangers coming here to deal drugs and commit crime
>the same as your grandfather in 1935

No way he's the most overrated etc. (way too much competition there), but his skills dropped way off about 1978. Born In The USA is the same riff over and over and over, Glory Days was no better. His mid-70's stuff still rocks though. Agree about the fans, they can act like drunken assholes even when totally sober. And I like in Philadelphia so there's no escaping the man...

And I completely disagree. Nebraska is considered better because song for song, it's a stronger album, also it has better melodies than TGOTJ.

like -> live