Is it true that some countries in Europe have a general attitude that being "on the dole" is a respectable way to live life? My brother's roommate is from Ireland, and he told me that kids there get free NEET bucks all the time, just for existing.
Do the Germans basically pay lazy Irishmen, Italians, and Iberians? Is this reparations for both WWIIs?
>Iberians
Wut? Where do I have to go to get free monis?
Ofcourse it is not respectable, but most people who live on BUX live in rental houses in neighbourhoods filled with other people who also live on BUX. So to them it is absolutely normal and respectable. They probably even think they are pretty smart for not working too.
Someone needs to come up with a final solution to this problem.
someone already did, look how that turned out
Just follow Jesus' example, expell the foreigners to return the nation to its former glory
Its actually the opposite
Probably either Barcelona or the Basque Country
Lol
>Do the Germans basically pay lazy Irishmen, Italians, and Iberians? Is this reparations for both WWIIs?
Sort of. When the EU formed its monetary union (the Euro), this meant that less financially-sound countries like the PIIGS could borrow at an interest rate comparable to Germany's, given that all their debt obligations were effectively collateralized with Germany's strong economy. Several countries started to go on spending sprees, making massive tax breaks coupled with expensive social policies like low retirement ages, ample breaks/time off work, pensions, public spending, etc. They kept running deficits and procrastinated the bill to a later day. Then in 2008, the credit bubble burst and creditors weren't willing to keep lending to the PIIGS, and without money to foot the bills, they turned to Germany for cash. Germany started to negotiate austerity measures and countries like Greece protested because they felt like they were being manipulated by them. Germany just saw the Greeks as lazy and who couldn't keep up their way of life without improving their labour market productivity and cutting out some of these lavish social policies which they can't sustain economically.
The story goes a lot longer, but the gist is that Germany has subordinated many of the smaller European countries to their will, given that they have significant influence over their economies. And cleverly, whether it planned this from the beginning or not (I think they did), Germany has used the PIIGS' economic mismanagement as an excuse to pass "fiscal policies" across the entire continent, basically creating a political union. Their reasoning is that they need to enforce a common set of laws on economic spending policies, and constant judicial implementation of those laws, to make sure that countries don't simply abuse the Euro and spend at a level that the rest of Europe has a say in deciding.
There are 0 foreigners living in my town, yet we have a lot of bux leeches here.
It isn't seen as respectable, but I heard somewhere that in the UK, for example, unless you are making the equivalent of 70k CAD (a respectable middle class income here) it makes more practical sense to get on the bux.
That isn't how shit works in Canada. Our welfare system is "better" than the American one, but it is still barely enough to survive. You are MUCH better off working for minimum wage than to be on welfare. The only time it makes sense to be on welfare is if you are a single mother, those are our "welfare queens."
Basically the problem with welfare in the UK and Europe is that it actually makes more financial sense to collect bux than to work a low-paying job. That's not how it works in Canada for the most part.
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This "fiscal union" shrinks national political power over important topics. For example, EU countries have no control over intra-EU immigration. Those in favour of the union argue that a functioning labour market is perhaps the single most important economic input to ensure a thriving economy, and the immigration policy effectively increases every European company's access to potential labourers by tenfold... this ensures that companies have much better selection for workers and (in their view) should reduce unemployment.
But the other side may argue that the fiscal union controls way too much and cuts into the notion of the Westphalian nation-state model. By having no control over intra-EU immigration, the borders of each EU-member state nation are blurred, or are made porous, by a potential population with a right to move in and work there which significantly outnumbers that nation's population. And of course, the flow of immigrants is primarily driven to the stronger economies, and away from the poorer ones, which has the effect of overwhelming some countries with migrants (ex. UK), and at the same time, depriving other countries of a labour force by stealing away all of their young workers and leaving seniors behind (ex. Poland), which presents a demographic struggle and reduces the quality of life for those left behind.
It also prevents certain countries from effecting policies which target some of their downtrodden workers in sectors that have been ignored or crushed by EU policy - for example, the UK fisheries industry is a sorry shadow of what it once was pre-EU, and the nation is helpless to save it because the EU controls fishing (manages access to the resource commons that are the seas).
Credit flows to banks who lend it to developers, government taxes sale of developments and uses the tax take to fund public services. credit cut off, banks bust, developers down, budge source lost.
I don't know about other EU countries but here you must earn your neetbux. You get 4 months of neetbux for every 12 months that you have been working.
thats pretty fair i think
is that a pension or actual neetbux for when youre unemployed
Its not respectable, its rightly viewed as shameful.
>kids get free NEET bucks
We have a benefit payment for parents, irrespective of their income.
It's unemployment benefits. Pensions are a different thing. However, I don't think our generation is going to get pensions when we're older. There won't be enough young workers to sustain the legion of old farts that is coming.
My country is particularly affected by this because we are the country with the second highest life expectancy in the world (after Japan). Fuck the Mediterranean diet and functional socialised healthcare desu, people should drink and smoke and eat bacon burgers so we can save money.
We have a similar program called Employment Insurance, but it's not the same as neetbux. It's a mandatory insurance program, you have to pay into it when you are working, and you collect from it when you lose your job through no fault of your own (like a lay-off). Welfare is something different altogether, it's not as much money as Employment Insurance but it can be collected by any unemployed degenerate.
In that case, we probably have the same welfare system. Part of your salary goes into taxes, part of it into social security / pensions, etc. I don't think we have got anything like Hartz4 i.e. a basic salary even for those who can't be arsed to work.
Why everyone always thinks that the EU gives us money when in reality is other way around? Italy is a net contributor.
And there's no neetbux here.
>tfw $1399 every month and not even doing anything
French state give 470€ per month for evry french over 25 with no jobs
You can also have 270€ if you rent an aprtment
I don't really understand the notion of being a NEET in Europe. 40 days of paid holiday, 30 hours a week with complimentary Fika.
but you guys have like 25% unemployment
how does one survive without job and benefits?
>Do the Germans basically pay lazy Irishmen, Italians, and Iberians?
First of all, Italy has no NEET bucks. And we don't get money from the Germans, we give MUCH more money to the EU than we spend. The EU budget will already suffer from Brexit, and it would be fucked if we left too.
This is unironically a very good and informative post
Yes, it's pretty sweet. I get €188 a week for doing nothing and they ask nothing in return, they also give me a 3 bedroom house even though I'm living alone and pay for my fuel allowance.
It's socially acceptable to be NEET as well since we're such a negative society everyone will readily accept the excuse of the government being so shit that jobs don't exist. People also believe that for jobs that do exist the blue collar is taxed so heavily that it isn't worth your while working and the white collar is subject to the begrudgery and presumed they are either corrupt or didn't get their position on merit.
You're seen as a bit of a loser in this country if you're not either NEET or an emigrant. It's unfortunate but great for people like me.
I actually only spend about €50 on food and essentials every week, I just spend the rest on video games and anime figurines.
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