What are your guys' thoughts on Roger Ebert...

What are your guys' thoughts on Roger Ebert? I definitely do not agree with all of his views but I felt that especially later on in his life he had a lot of interesting insight in his reviews

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Wildly overrated

He put the human story at the center of everything, and understood cinema as an art form to connect people from completely different walks of life so that they could understand one another.

He'd have tore the Warcraft movie a new asshole.

deservedly

>To the Wonder
>Tree of Life
>The Big Lebowski
>Badlands
>The Killing
>Mystery Train
>After Hours
>Nights in Cabiria

>4 stars

He was great. I find it sort of interesting how the last film he reviewed was To the Wonder, to which he gave 4 stars. Glad someone appreciated it.
I wonder how his impending death impacted the viewing on the film.

I unironically like him, but I think he truly shine when he was with Siskel, they truly compliment each other.

I felt his imminent death had a lot of influence on the films he watched especially later on. He even went back and watched movies he hadn't seen in a long time and reviewed them again with his different outlook on them. It's very evident that is illness had an effect on his reviews but I don't really think that's a bad thing

to the wonder is one of the most underrated and underappreciated films of recent memory tbqh familia, its literally "i dont like it because it makes me sad": the reviews. i do think he gave it 3.5 tho, not 4. could be wrong.

as for ebert, i disagree with some of his views and think he was kind of a pleb at times but i think his real value was his honesty about his tastes and his function as a medium/bridge in regards to accessibility. also he was right to rate movies based on what they were setting out to do, how they worked, etc, as opposed to just rating them against each other and making inappropriate comparisons.

Ebert for the most part was based

Siskel was was a fucking bitch tho

He was a pussy with no imagination, and his opinions reflect that.

The way I see it, the main purpose of a critic is to express their honest opinions in the most compelling way possible. Ebert did that better than just about any other critic. Even if you didn't agree with him most of the time, or any of the time, you knew what kind of movies he praised and which kind he trashed. So, you knew what to expect based on his reviews.

He is significant in the importance of reviewers in our culture, but he was honestly a shitty reviewer.

>Anything with profanity or violence is bad, except when it isn't
>Doesn't pay attention to movies, then acts like he did when he gets entire concepts wrong
>Of he isn't sold on one specific nitpick then the whole movie is bad
>Needs his movies to be insanely serious or buttfuck stupid, but shits on anything that attempted to balance them

Don't like that he shit on all Horror. He really should have kept his mouth shut on video games though because that it damaged his legacy a bit.

All I know is that he *LOVED* Jaws.

I don't think it's a bad thing either. To the Wonder and Tree of Life are a fitting few films to watch at the end of your life.

I agree 100% on everything. He was wrong quite a bit, but when he was right, he was right. Plus, I think he couldn't care less about general opinion and politics. He's interested in human stories, plots driven by characters and the human condition.

I loved reading his reviews of his 'great films'.

hack

DUDE BINFINITE AND THE LAST OF US ARE ART AND ON-PAR WITH LITERARY WORKS LMAO!!!

Fuck off. He is right.

"a game with a story is like porn with a story" - John McCarmack (not verbatim)

i saw Dark City on his recommendation
first and last time I ever do that. What a fucking lame movie. Everything that was decent about it? Has been done better. The worst was the last fight, just ridiculous, I don't know how he can see something so cliche and like it. He's seen a thousand times more movies than I have.

I'd still consider vidya music art. What is Nobuo Uematsu's work if not art?

Scores are entirely different.

kek. KYS

Not as much as siskel. Nigga actually had shoah as one of his top 10 movies of the 80s.

Art is not exclusive to Story you retard fuck. Music, visuals, etc.

Notice how you immediately named off AAA games? Ebery was probably as ignorant as you.

Ebert was the GOAT because he always reviewed the movies based on their genre and what they were trying to accomplish. He gave 2012 4 stars because he said it was the best disaster movie.

The only review of his that's complete garbage is the Home Alone 3 review. He says its better than the first two and Siskel destroys him.

Normally i agree with him but sometimes he just gives dumb fucking reviews that astonish me

>Phantom Menace three and a half stars
>A Taste of Cherry, one star
>Die Hard 1, two stars (then he gave die hard 2 a three and a half star review wtf? )

He and siskel had some top bantz too. I love that interview where that old crotchedy mean critic is bitching about star wars and they just rip into him for being a nofun allowed psuedointellectual

What are you saying then? The Last Guardian and Journey are high art? Lmao, stop trying to justify your juvenile hobby. You probably think comic books are 'art'

His review of The Thing illustrates almost every one of your points

Everything is art.

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do you think she used to tell him "you're getting two thumbs up"?

Who do you guys use for critics now? Since ebert passed I just use Mark Kermode. I agree with him almost everytime desu.

Ahh, yes. Post-modern 'art'

>tfw the ebert site is full of unreadable reviews now
I know it was Eberts idea to keep it going that way but holy fuck could they at least pick some better critics?

I'm just happy he was Catholic and not a Jew.

That sound incredibility gay

agreed, I appreciate the whole carrying on his legacy but it's not even worth the read anymore

Never heard of him, I'll have to check him out. I've mostly just stopped reading reviewers altogether since he died. I'll check out AV Club admittedly here or there but 90% of their content is shit and is only getting worse

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The AVclub commentators are holier-than-thou. I can't stand that place.

A.A. Dowd tbqfwy fämiliäm

That was the best part about Ebert. He was never up his own ass.

I liked that review familia. he seems very human and down to earth and I respect that. definitely going to check out some of his other reviews

asd

Ebert, and all critics...are like art critics in the sense that they seek depth and validation over the pure fun of creating. It's like being a kid; making a gun out of a fallen tree branch. Breaking off a few pieces here and there, and now you have Rambo's 50 Caliber...and you're loving it until...

A prick like Ebert comes in and judges "the composition of the work"...hmmm this branch lent itself to so much more, but you chose to go in "this direction"...it speaks largely to the needs of a masochistic few to turn a branch into a gun...and why do we ignore the leaf, anyhow? The leaf represents life, the branch is dead; it should be the so-called bullet for your gun, you five year old fucking shithead...

So then the kid makes a stick-gun according to the response, and is met with "I BAAARELY kept my eyes open...I mean, using a leaf to illustrate the lifeblood of a stick-gun...not only contrived, but it also made me laugh at how phony and shallow of a person you really are, you fucking worthless cunt"....

Critics, largely, are people who wanted to make things but never did. Then they take their frustrations and attempt to claim superiority over the creators by "analyzing"...which is nonsense. Let's talk about talking about talking (without actually having ever spoken). So this is for all critics: PRODUCE YOUR EFFORT FIRST, then criticize. Oh, you didn't like that film/album? Well, let's bring YOUR VISION to the forefront and let us judge which is better--the one you're taking shit on, or the one you made. Your work first. Then let's compare the two. That's where critics end and creators begin.

>You are not a chef
>Therefore, you are not allowed to say whether a beef wellington is good or not

Exactly. The prime example is the episode where he gave a thumbs down to Full Metal Jacket but a thumbs up to Benji the Hunted.

He justified it by saying Benji was a decent movie for kids to see, while Full Metal Jacket, obviously a better film, has a great first half but is not a totally satisfying war film.

I loved that he always gave movies their fair shake, regardless of genre. Unlike the Academy which only considers movies if they're serious, dramatic, history or biopics.

He approached a movie on it's own terms. Horror, fantasy, animation, whatever. He was never above it.

You can't say you've agreed with every one of his reviews but he was a damn good critic. Miss him.

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Everyone passes judgement on things they couldn't do themselves. Everyone does that. You do that. Ever see a painting you think sucks? Or listen to a bad song? Do you have to paint/compose a masterpiece before you're entitled to your opinion? No.

Ebert said himself his reviews aren't about telling you objectively if a movie's good or bad. He was primarily an essayist and took the approach of detailing his reaction and feelings toward a movie.

Ebert was one of the few legit critics around.

Surprisingly civil discussion of one of the greatest movie critics to ever live, even from those who disagree with a lot of his opinions.

I'm proud of you Sup Forums

So people hire thousands of artists to not make art?

>third year in media design
>school gives us monitors and internet access "for research purposes only"
>everybody spends their time on YouTube watching Graham Norton and Nostalgia Critic
>school bans YouTube
>they did not have the prescience to ban siskelandebert.org
>kickass archive with majority of Siskel and Ebert episodes from all their incarnations
>have a dope year watching these two geniuses either teaming up/facing off to praise/destroy a movie/each other
>die laughing watching them sing karaoke in one of their Christmas specials

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Gets paid for reviews and has shit taste. Deserved the cancer

I was overjoyed when I heard on Sup Forums that this charlatan had finally died, but I was also saddened by the fact that he hadn't suffered that much before deciding that he could insult film criticism no longer. The pain and suffering that he went through is only a fraction of the evil that he inflicted on the millions of cinematically illiterate teenagers. When I found out that the old fart had finally decided to not assault the public with his adolescent approach to art, I pulled off the framed picture of Armond White from my wall, kissed it reverently, and immediately embarked on a Korine marathon. Good riddance, you jawless hack.

A true genius. I was amazed when I saw his list of 10 greatest movies of all time. All films were true masterpieces and each one beared an outstanding idea. I started to respect him after his review of "Tree of Life". Roger was truly dedicated to his job, he watched 2 movies a day and to this day he is the only movie critic whom I respect and listen to.

I'm reserving judgement until I finally see Beyond the Valley of the Dolls

kek

for me watching a movie and then reading the ebert review is such a nice ritual. those are two things that have to go together. his death was the first celebrity death that really touched me, since him not beeing around means that my rituals stopped for movies 2013+.

never understood though why he didnt like most of jarmushs work. especially the ones i really love

I haven't read one of his actual reviews in awhile (I know he's dead), but I remember feeling like that whenever I did read his reviews, it just felt like he watched movies purely from a casual moviegoer wanting entertainment point of view. Not like that's a bad thing but I guess it'd be why he's well known.

I'll never forgive the fucker for giving Blue Velvet 1/4

he loved broken flowers tho