We need a #Bexit

We need a #Bexit.

Good luck with that.
Too many cuck'd liberals in Europe, specifically Belgium.

we need a revolution

Yes we do.

I'm scared by the trending rise in nationalism.

War soon I feel.

We should blow their targets before they do. That'll show them.

America invented the formula for cancer. Now it's our turn.
Nationalism isn't the problem it's the solution. The problem is what should scare you.

Since when is nationalism a bad thing? Caring for collective well-being is bad?

curing cancer*

This happened because of (belgian) intelligence services being incompetent not because of the european union

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Nationalism is only caring for a smaller collective. The world has managed to come together so much in the last 100 years. Now because some dumb fucks pushed it too far it is all coming undone and coalitions are breaking apart.

Hahaha nice try Soros.
>It's Belgians fault let's all just hate ourselves and let shitskins destroy our nation.

>EU pushes and promotes growth of islam in europe
>islam creates problems
More muslims, more terrorism (which is the smallest problem with islam actually).

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Imagine you have two groups of people. One is closed and focused on its own prosperity. The other one is 100% open and doesnt prefer itself over the other group.

Which group will survive?

Societies without nationalism are temporary anomalies, unable to survive with competing societies.

t. no knowledge on history nor nationalism

How is the way your justice disfunction linked to the fact that Belgium is part of the EU ?

The first world,
we all still collectively exploit the third.

>exploit
How *exactly*?

I didn't know Belgium was still a thing

No EU, 80% less muslims.

And this kind of thinking is what scares me. I can't dispute your argument but I think it's pretty far to the right. The "Us Vs Them" idea will only lead to aggression, it's basically tribalism on a bigger scale. Some degree of nationalism is most likely required in the current global setting but too much and we will stop cooperating.

Well, its pretty much a non-country.

By purchasing goods from abusive companies with no regulations whatsoever, simply because it's cheaper

>inb4 "they agree to it"

Because somebody agrees to something does not make it just

>inb4 they're better off

No they'd be better off with a government that wasn't trying to make money, rather one that stood by its principles of helping the people


This is mainly talking about China but can be applied to almost all other developping countries

Blame the anglos for not letting France and Netherlands annex it

You still dont get it, do you? Its the same thing as pacifism - its a beautiful idea, but it only works if ALL societies obey it. If even a single one doesnt, everyone gets fucked by it.

Your kind of thinking is what scares me. Its the people like you who will make europe fall to islam.

Extreme selfishness (nazis?) is about the same dangerous and destructive as extreme altruism and selflessness. There needs to be a balance.

Every entity must preserve itself and defend its own existence, otherwise it will perish sooner or later. That works for animals, humans, nations, civilisations alike.

>it's pretty far to the right
Wanting to survive is now "far right"? What a wonderful world we live in.

>I can't dispute your argument
Thats because leftism is based on emotions and not logic. Therefore it inevitably suffers from logical inconsistencies everywhere.

Take us away to a better place Farrage.

That is the injustice which, in trying to be addressed, is causing all this discontent. "Why should we share our wealth with people who don't deserve it?". "Because it's the right thing to do" isn't a good enough response for some people, especially when those we are trying to help seem to be killing us.

You need that congo back

Nationalism is not a solution to anything. It's a way to get morons to join the army for free when the toffs want someone invaded. It's monkey thinking and it needs to die.

The problem of Europe is the governments breaking the social contract with their own citizens for the sake of catering to rich fucks, which is painted as liberal agenda. Minorities get favored treatment when they commit crimes, they are not put under any pressure to integrate, more and more of them are being let in without any selection process. I know the whole point is to reduce the cost of labor, thus making our products more competitive on the market, but us down here on the streets won't feel any benefits from that. We just get to guess if one of the towelheads who just moved in is a terrorist plotting to hit the local school.

Pull out of Middle East, let things settle, help them rebuild. That's the solution. That's the only solution.

That doesn't mean it isn't there,
or should not be acknowledged.

I think the biggest issue is a complete lack of respect for themselves, coupled with the migrants own disrespect for the hosting countries. Nationalism isn't necessarily a bad thing, provided your pride in one's own country's achievements is counter-weighed by a healthy respect for the accomplishments of other nations achievements.
The only real problem with nationalism is when you start to devalue the accomplishments of others.
It's really saddening to see what's happening in the west right now as someone who has spent their life studying world history. . .

I think you're misunderstanding me.

>One is closed and focused on its own prosperity. The other one is 100% open and doesnt prefer itself over the other group.

The idea that people think this is a representative description of the global climate is what scares me. If you honestly think that this is accurate then you are far more right than you think you are as it is totally unreasonable and choked in fear.

>no regulations
Regulations are created by local governments. It's part of the law like anything else.

>inb4 "they agree to it"
They dont?

>Because somebody agrees to something does not make it just
So they are little children who cant decide for themselves? Take it or leave it. Noone is forcing them at gunpoint.

>No they'd be better off with a government that wasn't trying to make money
No money => no police, no healthcare, no education.

>rather one that stood by its principles of helping the people
Your people making money is the best way to help your people. Actually, the only way.

Build a wall around the Middle East and make the Jews pay for it?

sorry to say as a person from asia i can tell you towelheads are nothing like the first world has ever seen. they are united so you will require something similar nationalism is the answer.

>liberal-tards ACTUALLY believe the capitalist system is desirable to third worlders
kek

Of course it doesnt reflect reality *precisely*, there are thousands of individual societies. It was an analogy.

Let me ask you again: do you think that a nation being 100% selfless and altruistic (that what you propose) can survive against those who arent?

How the fuck can someone who's been sentenced for 9 years walk the streets again in (less than) 4 years!?

I am not a liberal. Quite the opposite actually.
topkek indeed

Nazis are one of many groups in history we can look at to see why socialism is the true us against them mentality. In order to have a socialist rule, you need everyone to agree to the conditions within that government. For someone to disagree is for someone to then become part of the out group. Nazis used race and religion, surprise surprise, the current hardcore left is using race and religion. I say hardcore left deliberately because leftists love the "not all..." argument.

war against muslims in Europe would be perfectly fine to me.

Certainly not. I wish there was a easy fix but it will take decades at-least of comprise to even start changing the way things things are.

Oh! Thank you. Another out group nazis used was "rich jews". Now we use simply "rich fucks". Still, the out group should be hated. Almost forgot about that one.

Why are you bringing nazis and socialism into this? There is no relevance.

Stick to the topic and answer my question.

Nice strawman.

Nobody here proposes that some "out group" should be hated. Where do you see that?

How come leftists here cant show logical arguments and use only fallacies instead? O.o

Anyone notice that when you take a neutral stance against someone who is either far left or far right you always get accused of being on the other hand?

To answer your question, No. But I think that if you condone being part of a country only looking out for its own interests then you are no better than the side you are so fearful of.

I wonder who's behind this post.

Thx for answer.

I dont thing that a nation should only look out for its own interests. Thats actually against its own interest. I think there should be a balance (I think I wrote that already, not sure now).

This.

Have you seen Empire of Dust?
That's what kind of shit they get to govern in all those shitskin countries. No hope.

I said I'm against leftists. No idea what you're talking about.
I'm not going to answer your question because I agree with you...

We are even building a wall. It's not finished yet though.

Belgium isn't a real nation anyway.

Atleast we don't have a rigged presidential candidate.

"nationalism is an infantile disease. it is the measles of mankind"

albert einstein

If you don't care about the place you live in then why would you care about maintaining it?

You are right. We shouldn't fight back to anything we should
#alldietogether Who are we to decide whom may not decapitate people because we are all le human race even though cults are the problem.

Tell that to Prussians or Tartars. They got fucked and murdered en masse for not being able to form/sustain nationalism.

Albert was no doubt a great scientist, but he was wrong on many things, even in physics ("god doesnt play dice with universe" on quantum physics etc.). Doesnt mean everything he says is holy. Thats an argumentation fallacy.

I prefer to hear sociologists on the topic of society, dont you think thats better?

I will fight for my beliefs. I just don't believe in my country, and nor should anyone. If you do, I suggest thinking long and hard about why that is.

>I just don't believe in my country, and nor should anyone.
So you dont care what happens to your country and its people and you take pride in it?

I am starting to think that you are just a troll, because this is incredible.

Wait. So what are your believes and what are you implying I'm confused.

Why would I be proud of my country, I didn't make it or work for it? I can care about the people who live in a country and still not give two shits about the name of the bit of land they live on or the nationality of the governors as long as they govern in a way that I agree with.

Generic stuff; freedom, justice, human rights, ect. My point is that those beliefs are separate from my nationality, which is literally just were I happened to be born.

he's referencing a cod death quote you dingbats

But those people = nation. Nation isnt some abstract something, its literally the people.

Thats what it is, you contradict yourself.

>Why would I be proud of my country, I didn't make it or work for it?
If everyone in history of your country acted like you, it wouldnt even exist and you would live in central-africa-tier shithole (where nationalism practically doesnt exists, what a coincidence)...

What you need is a Terraxit. Get out of the universe. Monsieur Poirot.

>My point is that those beliefs are separate from my nationality
LOLWUT? Are you being serious? This must be a bait, kek

the problem is not enough muslims
if u had more muslims he would have felt more welcome in your country and less of an outcast
so just keep aquireing more muslims and soon you will have everlasting peace

i guess everyone is a retard

look at the pic, you'll see it's edited

either OP is a huge dumbass or bait

>Human rights
Getting away with murder isn't a human right.
>Freedom
What forced Burka?
>Justice
Yeah look at op pic you chump.

Tom Van Grieken will rise.

I never said I wasn't part of a nation. By the definition of the word, I am. Hell, I am probably what would be considered a model citizen of my nation. My beliefs and morals have been shaped by the morals of the nation I grew up in.

But, if that group of people, that "nation" start acting in a way that I don't agree with then I will feel no need to go along with it just because it's "My nation".

I'm probably coming across far more contrary than I mean to.

Get that shitskin out of my thread.
I got it from reddit Vlaams Belang. No it's not edited.

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Only because you are a nationalist doesn't mean you want to destroy other nations or people, wanting to keep your country and culture unmixed and pure should be anyone's right.

>But, if that group of people, that "nation" start acting in a way that I don't agree with then I will feel no need to go along with it just because it's "My nation".

I strongly agree with that. Seems like you westerners have some weirdly warped and deformed idea of what nationalism is.

Decades of leftism have some effect I assume.

the problem is you're still breathing
i hope you fuckers are sterilized you dont have a right to reproduce since you do it so fast anyways
cant blame u dough
what is there to do in buttfuck nowhere desert land?

gas em!

Holy shit that poor innocent Mudslime. Fucking white racists we need to all just let it go.
Who cares about borders and laws and death and despair.

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Yeah, look at Japan.
There is something very nice, special and comforting among living in a society where everyone has a shared history, a shared culture.
Theres a sense of unity and togetherness like you're all in the same boat.
I think societies like that are much nicer then the countries made by big Government globalist control freaks where the native people and the native culture is constantly demonized and all the shittiest cultures like Islam are celebrated over your own in your own land.
Yeah... I'll take Japan like ethnic Nationalism over today's absurd no borders no discrimination globalism.

If communist or gay if you want to kill muslims you cant be a bad guy IMHO

Merkel get out!

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Did somebody say Trump?

Just grab your guns, take to the streets, and take your country back!

Oh wait...

Serbs are basically Christian turks

Ga nog wat aan je lul trekken op foto's van Filip Dewinter vuile kakhoeren!

Why you guys simply don't vote for politicians who support immigration, and vote for politicians who don't support?

>Points out logical fallacy
>Proceeds to generalise that all leftists are illogical and incapable of creating arguments that aren't flawed
I don't expect you to understand why you're a retard

Yes kill the King!

>Nazis used race and religion, surprise surprise, the current hardcore left is using race and religion

>implying Sup Forumstards only ironically hate whole races and religions because to generalise a race or religion as being the source of all evil in the world is a perfectly sound idea

>implying we don't have guns
Belgium does have weapons including guns.
>implying the king have any sort of real power

we have 6 governments. And voting doesn't work, since there are a bunch of laws and rules in place to keep the current parties in the gouvernement at all cost.
Losing an election by having 0 votes will result in only 1/3 of loss in chairs max. If a small party doesn't get the minimum votes in any city, the votes in that city of that party will go to te current biggest party. Not voting is voting for the current biggest party.

What a self hating cunt. She is the worst German ever. She will be the end of Germany and Europe as you know it. And the European faggots eat this shit up and sit idly by as her and her supporters welcome a violent culture in with open arms. Better not defend yourself next time a raghead decides to spontaneously combust. It'll be the gulag for racism. Also don't call erdogan a goat fucker. Remember you fucks do NOT have freedom of speech

Your gun rights are so neutered that you might as well not have any to begin with. How many laws do you break if you defend yourself with a gun?

Wow! How it got to this point?

It's all rigged. It's Europe what did you think. I heard before that they take away votes to fit their dictatorship.
Tom Van Grieken when?

>Just grab your guns, take to the streets, and take your country back!

It is so ironic to read this from an American... a country that is run my special interest.
The Land of The Free which has the most unfree (aka in prison) ppl in the world.

Your owners are so sure about it, that they give you the choice between Trump and Hillary and they think you still won't see reality!