So Sup Forums they just discovered that next to the star that is closest to our solar system is a habitable planet...

So Sup Forums they just discovered that next to the star that is closest to our solar system is a habitable planet.It is 4 lightyears away.How does this make you feel?

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I was your ghost, OP.

Jealous of the cunts that get to see it.

We're never fucking leaving our solar system because humanity is fucking garbage and nothing like the movies so it feels about the same as yesterday

I'm not saying space travel isn't possible, but theoretically we could build a Generations ship. Make it completely self sustainable with THOUSANDS of different protocols in order to make sure that the mission goes well. Multiple ion thrusters on the back of the ship allowing us to reach 5% the speed of light. And somehow if we actually manage to get ALL of that together we would still run into the issue of

>Blocking out harmful UV rays so everyone on board doesn't get cancer
>A star cruiser with enough rations and material in order to get to said planet.
> a vast number of mechanics to fix the ships EVERY NEED
> if they manage to get to the planet they are fucked if it's not actually habitable.
>It would take a few hundred years going 5% the speed of light.
>Possible chance of inbreeding


We got this guy's. The world won't shit itself before we inhabit another planet.

Why do you have to ruin my dreams faggot?

how can it be a star and also a planet?

You're a fucking retard

4LY away
EZ
the apollo 11 could get there in 110,000 years

Fam going at 5% the speed of light it'd only take 80 years...
l2mathfggt

you dont understand how time dilation works do you?

also
we already use shielding to block rays and radiation on our current spacecraft with pretty good effectiveness
due to time dilation it honestly wouldnt require tons of supplies, if they can make it to mars which they're currently planning to do, they can make it even further out
you dont need a "vast number of mechanics" stop being silly
cant argue with number 4
it might take "hundreds of years" but due to time dilation, the people on board the spacecraft would only age a fraction of that
inbreeding would not be a real risk once again due to time dilation

also the faster the craft goes, the more time dilates, the only real issue is slowing the craft down but that can be done using the gravity of the destination planet

its actually all very possible. and its not as science fiction as you might think

Exterminate xenos in the name of God Emperor.

>>It would take a few hundred years going 5% the speed of light.

It would take 80 years, you fucking retard.

Anyway, not gonna happen in our lifetimes.

Nooot to mention the amount of doctors on board to make sure no none gets sick.

A platoon of people to hold order in the star cruiser.

Maybe 5-6 Dozen vertical artificial farms.

Constant recyclable water

Living quarters for x amount of people on the ship. (This includes children)

actual experienced travel time would be even less than 80 years because of time dilation

a round trip would be out of the question though, at least if the people intended to ever see the same people again

you're an idiot who's too immersed in science fiction, reality is a lot more simple than all that shit

Wtf is Sup Forums?

>habitable
The Alpha Centauri system has no planets that are known to be habitable to humans. All we know is that we just found out that Proxima Centauri has a planet that is within the possible habitation zone for a planet.

All that means is that if there is water there it could be liquid if the atmosphere is correct. We also don't know anything about the contents of the atmosphere or the planets ability to reflect radiation.

It is not known to be habitable by any definition.

Plus 20 years for slowing down again.
Are our computers Even Smart enough to navigate in a completely unknown system?

People are talking about how close it is but shit we can't even get a probe there in our lifetimes yet. What makes this interesting is that when we are ready for insterstellar travel/probes, this system will be the first simply because it is the closest to us.

Even considering that our radio waves have been travelling through space for the last 80 yrs at the speed of light, there has been plenty of time for an advanced species to receive our radio signals and maybe respond back.

tl'dr: still don't have the tech to reach it, probably no intelligent life as we know it, even if it can support life.

>if they can make it to mars which they're currently planning to do, they can make it even further out

You fucking moron, mars is our next door neighbour.

Look, think of it like this.

The sun is 90,000,000 miles away and it takes light about 8 minutes to reach us from the sun.

So in effect, the sun is 8 light minutes away.

This new planet is 4 light YEARS away.

Can you even begin to comprehend that distance?

4 light years is 2,102,400 light minutes.

The new planet is 262,800 times as far away as the sun.

You don't believe in Sup Forums threads?
Well you better start
>because you're in one

yes, it will take 99.9% of the time, thank you for correcting the record

>new planet

Yeah, brand new

Do you think there blood is also red?

Basically, if you scaled down teh distance from the Earth to the sun to 1cm, this new planet would be 1.63 MILES away.

Just think about that.

the distance between the Earth and the sun is about as wide as your fingernail and this new planet is 1.6 miles away.

Herp derp they don't use the same technology as us, they must not be an intelligent race

Not to mention the fact that even if they do use radio waves to communicate, how the fuck would they be able to understand us

Typo but also works

WE MUST CONQUER THIS PLANET NOW! What are we waiting on? THEM.... to conquer US?!

There is exactly no indication that there is life of any kind on that planet. The only interesting thing is it sits on the habitable zone of the star.

We do have the tech to reach it. The reality of the situation is space travel between habitable planets will always be a slow process.

Even if the EM drive turns out to be the holy grail people are hoping it is, it is barely any better than an Ion drive.

The funny thing is that people keep thinking you need a planet to go to instead of the ship being the goal and planets just being big piles of resources.

""""""habitable""""""

Same

the problem with being in space is that you have no escape if some fag decides to commit suicide with a wmd. One mistake could end the species if we were all in space.

It sounds like you don't understand highschool physics. Radio waves aren't parallel to any other wireless communication. They are vastly superior and more reliable than light signals and we know they travel through space well (although slowly). There may be better technology that we simply haven't discovered but radio waves are significant and any species that has evolved to the technological level to discover them will understand their significance for their own uses and if and when they advanced beyond its use they would still understand that radio waves would likely be how a species first reaches out from its planet and monitor that traffic.

Also you don't even need to understand what is being said. The fact that you can see a deliberate message from a different planet tells you a great deal about them.

Self sealing bulkheads. Segments of the ship automatically close to maintain atmosphere.

The physical danger is not really any different here on earth. Also the analogue here is some fags are poisoning the planet because its the cheapest way to deal with their garbage. Where is your escape?

What if we discover the planet is habitable, but has INDIGENOUS LIFEFORMS?

>will understand their significance for their own uses and if and when they advanced beyond its use they would still understand that radio waves would likely be how a species first reaches out from its planet and monitor that traffic.

I hope for the same reason they will still recognize us as life, even when they are billions of years more advanced than us, and still find us interesting.

Then we bring them Christianity and freedom.

We give them pock infested blankets.

utterly indifferent

if there is water... there is feelz

We just marglar their marglar

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pretty much this

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>speaking of doctors
PLEASE STATE THE NATURE OF THE MEDICAL EMERGENCY.

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Get back to me when we can travel at light speed.

>a vast number of mechanics to fix the ships EVERY NEED

>Doctors

What do you guys think astronauts are?

Google. All major news networks have released the story.

The story is that a planet has been newly discovered orbiting proxima centauri abd ut sits in the habitable zone.

Nothing else is known. We don't know if there is water, we don't know if there is oxygen, we don't know if there is an atmosphere, we don't know if there is a magnetosphere.

Saying it is habitable at this point is completely false.

I'm proud that we have the technology to understand and observe this astronomical discovery but im also a little worried about what kind of careless destruction this could bring to the Earth. And there could always have been a miscalculation and this isnt actually habitable. One of the main rules of science is to remain skeptic.

completely agree

IMO what we really need is:
>the ability to construct extremely large rockets
>a rocket that doesn't use stages, but instead continuously sheds weight for maximum efficiency

Unfortunately I suck at calculus so I can't figure out how much mass you'd need for a given speed.

So that's where these fuckers are coming from.

>Rockets

What year do you think this is Jerry? Ion drives don't nee cumbersome solid fuel tanks and we are literally trying to figure out how our miracle EM drive, that uses electricity for fuel, works.

Building a interstellar ship in space or on the moon removes most of the need for solid rockets.

>Scientists discover lifey planet
>Shlomo catches wind
>Oy vey, the goyem will go live happy lives there!
>Spend hard earned shekels on rockets
>Tfw evil Jews from another planet

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400 views. Hows do you think it makes me feel?
Let it be tits in public and you'd have the next viral video...

But that would be unfair to do that when it's their marglar
We don't have the marglar to do that

What do you expect? Even if we found out tomorrow, without a shadow of a doubt, that it was habitable. It means nothing to people alive today.

an ion drive works by applying a charge to a fuel source, yes a fuel source, but non-combustible and its attactted to its opposite charge, the charge cancles and particles are flung out in a direction.

since the particles go in one direction they push the space craft in the opposite direction.

you can build one yourself out of some balsa wood, aluminum foil, and a neon sign transformer. its fuel sorce is atmosphere and can generate enough thrust to actually lift it off the ground, not with the transformer mind you.

CUMBERSOME.SOLID.FUEL

reading comprehension.

A big tank of xenon isn't going to take up the weight or room of a solid rocket. And thats if you wanted to still use xenon.

Also grats on the cherry picking. What about the EM drive. Sure its unreliable because we don't understand why its producing thrust but it runs on energy which you can collect during the voyage.

Rockets have no place in interstellar travel. Their only purpose is to exit the atmosphere.

Am i supposed to feel something about a planet?
Or would you rather hear what i think instead?

Second

Bored and tired. We know nothing about it other than where it is and that it is in the "habitable range" and already people are shitting themselves saying it is habitable and likely has life.

i guess you don't know how magnets work

LOLOLOL

Humans will never ever ever ever reach another planet in this domain, Mars maybe, but they won't make it back. 4 light years lololol. One light year is like 6 trillion miles or some shit. Good luck retards. We have a perfectly habitable planet right here that has been here for over 4 billion years, we will be wiped out and the next life-form will be wiped out, and the next, and the next, and the next. Humans sure are full of themselves.

FUCK YEAH BRO! BIG ROCKETS! NUKE Proxima b!

Protip: I don't know how magnets work and [spoiler]neither does anyone else[/spoiler].

you're correct with "rockets" having no place in interstellar travel, solid and liquid alike. solid can't even be "turned off" once started.

robots might live past us and survival on other planets on this/other solar system

"We needs no monies fo dem progamz!"

"We don't spend enough on those wars and occupations! Thank a veteran!"

Of course. Artificial life can be made to live anywhere much better than an organic. That's why AI is such a heavily used theme in scifi.

not true

there are many theories

gravity is a theory, yet here we are stuck to this spinning ball and it works just fine

my personal favorite is the lines of force are a representation of 4th dimensional space being inflicted on our 3rd dimensional plane when ferrous materials molecular poles align.

we just don;t have the technology to test these theories and probably never will for a couple centuries.

It wouldn't surprise me if a whole Star Trek or Star Wars thing goes on there in outer space and everyone just doesn't drag us into this because we are the most retarded species in the Universe. I mean a Gigantic majority of roughly 7 billion people allows a tiny minority of not even 500 million people to control them although they just use this power so they can fill up their own purse and we let them do that for whatever reason

And none of it has been proven. So you don't know how it works.

>molecular poles align
Nigger you must be joking. Molecular poles is a debunked theory. Magnetic field orientation is determined by electron spin.

OP stop getting our hopes up

If the universe is infinite this is literally happening somewhere.

In all likely hood it is also exposed to radiation far surpassing what the earth is.

yes but calling a technology unreliable because we don't understand it is like asking kids why they like apple jacks when they don't taste like apples.

magnets are in use everywhere

so what
I'll never make it there
the journey with our current tech would take ~100 years
>toolatetoexploreworldtooearlytoexploreuniverse.jpg

Unreliable as in it can't be accounted for so no one is going to risk astronauts lives with it on a generational mission.

Any planet that would be habitable for humans, it would have to take many generations to adapt to the planet. The human body was made on earth for earth. Besides, the people that would be traveling interstellar would have many problems to the organs/blood pressure due to no gravity

fucking weird trying to comprehend the relatively short distance involved.

Less than 80 and even less than that for the crew because of minor time dilation. EM drive could also in theory go faster than the Ion drive which would cut the trip time down even further.

>you dont understand how time dilation works do you?
I do know you need to be traveling faster then 5%C (our current capability) to experience any effects at all

>Sup Forums

>no gravity

Son. Please. The interstellar vessel would only have to have constant acceleration of 9.2m/s^2 to mimic earths gravity. You could also accelerate slightly faster with no ill effects.

Also, it is impossible to adapt to a planet that is lethal to you. You can't simply evolve to not need oxygen or water.

Life evolved on this planet for the conditions of this planet. You're going to be hard pressed to find a planet we're going to easily adapt to even of it is hosting other life. We belong on the earth.

Read somewhere that they -might- have figured the EM drive out.

Turns out the actual thrust production is radiant energy, photons in the microwave frequencies, that have had their charge neutralized. Being charge neutral makes them nearly impossible to detect, so proof is a ways off.

Don't believe you

We belong wherever the fuck we want to go but the reality is that permanent settlements would likely be biodomes for many generations before terraforming becomes reasonable.

If we don't elect Trump, the Aliens will come out of hiding and let us know we passed the test.

We'd have free technology, brah.

It's been addressed.

You don't have to but its high school physics if you ever get interested. Acceleration and vectors.

Why have any particular feeling why would you want to spread the human race across the galaxy just to promote Western culture and eventually exhaust it of all it's resources

But the trick is figuring out why the thrust produced is a net gain in energy by all account.

the bigger problem is packing enough fuel to accelerate constantly for ~100 years
even LFTRs (assuming they work) require more than half the vehicle's mass at LEO (or even HEO) to be fuel

Great, so in 100 years we can start to ruin another one.

Not true.

An experiment was done using briefcase-sized cesium clocks on an airliner. The dilation was in the billionths of a second (Maybe less), but it -was- measurable. And it was at the speeds typical of a commercial airliner on a trans atlantic flight

Ruin what, exactly? You think we're even realistically going to get off this planet to another solar system in 100 years?