I need some help. The stakes are *high*

I need some help. The stakes are *high*

I have been court ordered to participate in a 6 month drug/substance program (they claim the ability to detect if I have drank within the last week). If I refrain from drinking/smoking/drugs for another 4 months, then I win, and the court drops a drug charge against me.

>weekly drug screenings by Quest Diagnostics
>I have produced my first month of specimens in an unsupervised, one-room bathroom
>full panel urine test: THC, LSD, EtG (ethanol), Cocaine, K2, Opioids . . .

But there's no fucking way I want one of my last semesters to be cocked by the court. Instead of producing my specimens in my handler's office, I will have to travel to Quest weekly and produce them there. I'm hoping I get the same setup as I have thus far.

>Is freezing a 3-4 month supply of clean urine a feasible/safe strategy for beating these tests?
>Is it possible for labs to detect "old" or "once-frozen" urine?

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depends.

how recently have you used illegal substances/narcotics?

I will give you my opinion once that info is produced.

not since early July

right now I'm completely clean. they let me know the results of my test each week, and i've been completely clear for like a month now.

have you considered synthetic urine?

They make that now.

It's a pretty serious lab and I think urine testing is a large part of their business

If I used synthetic urine i'd be afraid they would be able to detect that it's fake or not mine somehow

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I understand. I get random at work and I smoked weed for like 2 weeks almost straight recently because someone told me you could buy synthetic urine from the headshop and pass a test with it.

The implications of having to trust this shit to pass a Quest Diagnostics (the industry leader I believe) test has me pretty worried.

So I stopped smoking, hopefully it all makes it out before I get called to piss.

No way bro. They're going to slip something into your water, delay the sample, and test for it. Then you'll be sorry

I'm an HPLC chemist (what they use in quest diagnostics), there is no such thing as a "urine fingerprint." The fake stuff looks just like the real stuff when you run it through.

Source: Have run both real dirty urine and fake clean urine through my machine.

Ok.

Marijuana has a half life, that unless you're a lazy fat fuck, will usually leave the body after 1 month. Completely. In my experience even sooner than that. Other drugs usually leave the body after 1-5 days. Alcohol is just alcohol. No one gives a fuck about alcohol.

As for tests. Urine tests/ blood tests are the most precise but most expensive. Most government agencies won't bother.

Mouth swabs are a fucking joke.

It's been a month. Just keep drinking water, staying active and healthy. Then wait for the green light to be free and recreational.

They don't fuck around. I had two everything bagels the two days before one of the tests and I came back positive for opioids . . . (my handler called the lab and they said it fell within the range of foodstuff though)

Also, freezing shouldn't have any noticeable effect, but BE SURE to heat that clean piss to body temp. They test for temperature with that sticker on the seal if you don't see them actively doing it. Honestly, id freeze the urine and just make sure its at body temp if you have a schedule of when the tests will be,

You can't even go six months without drinking/drugs? Maybe you have a problem and should be in jail.

thanks for your input

so would you suggest going with fake urine instead of my own, frozen urine? And is there any way to determine if a sample has been frozen and reheated?

Zionist filth!

thats how fucking stupid tests and restrictions are.
my uncle got busted for dui, and the breathalyzer that allows him to drive flips out if he wears cologne or uses mouth wash.

yeah I determine the schedule of the testing. thanks for the advice

any idea of the most common ways that you guys catch people tampering with the test?

ignore this faggot

don't use frozen piss, why bother?

just use your own piss

the mid stream piss, not the first part or the last bit
don't drink too much water, it'll produce a diluted sample and too clear and the lab might be an incredible faggot and ask you to come back for another test. nigger lovers.

Holy shit...what a morons... Always try to make poor choice.. Nigger?

I'm cool with not smoking for 6 months

It would be pretty painful to be sober and not go out with my friends though

Fucking drug addicted useless asshole.

>If I refrain from drinking/smoking/drugs for another 4 months, then I win, and the court drops a drug charge against me.
Nigger you didn't win. They're getting exactly what they want, a cheaper and hands offs alternative. You're on Sup Forums asking for advice.

yeah it's so ridiculous.

I also am supposed to see a therapist once every week. I was away for a few days and I missed an appointment and they were riding my ass about it

Idiot. This is the kind of science expected from a fucking pothead.

nah
if you're really interested, I go to a top 15 school in the US and I am already employed. Start working once I finish school. Pretty nice signing bonus too

Tell them you're a junkie good-for-nothing.

well I do have one thing going for me, my company only fires based on "illegal" drugs. I know because my manager (who I'm friends and knows I party, but wouldnt be able to do anything about it if I failed a test) was tested twice and she knows opiates were in her system. They never asked for her prescriptions or anything

yeah that's not the brightest idea

it would also be too risky for me to do that because there is a decent change they would pick up a small amount of ethanol-related-substrate or THC when there should be none

it's simple man.

just give them what they want.

which will be your time and your money.

they are the government after all.

they care about you :)

so do what they want or they'll put you in jail

no, but fascism aside, therapy? that is very homosexual and they probably think you're a homosexual who needs to be coddled instead of just issued the fine right away like they do with most others. Just smile and wave, niggerlover.

combination of this and dumb marijuana laws

was caught with dabs (hash oil), which is a Class C, so this program I am on is designed for heroin/opioid addicts.

I have had no problem stopping, just would like not to have the first half of my year ruined

Lol... Do they know you are a worthless junkie? You can't make 4 month?

I work at a hospital in Canada... They will know... Don't even try to cheat ...

stay clean the multi panel test you will fail even with frozen piss the temp and specific gravity would fail you. Even if they only suspect u cheating its auto fail

do you expect me to apologize for being able to function at a high enough level to enjoy smoking weed on a regular basis while not fucking up school?

source?

this is what i was concerned about

Im currently in court ordered treatment. Schedueled test once a week at treatment facility, randoms at court usually once a week with no prior notice.

The drug treatment place I go to uses a lab to test.

Alcohol will be in ur urine for like 3 days. Also, calling straight up bullshit on the LSD

You can also look into SOME research chems. I'm abusing the fuck out of U47700. This one is like an opoid but it never shows on tests for anything. Been using it very frequently.

I also drink on fridays. The court calls me in the morning if Im being tested that day, so if im not called friday Im good for that night.

hash oil = heroin/opioid

THAT IS FUCKING HILARIOUS

Good luck on your piss test bro, but I highly doubt you need it. If what you say is true, enough time has passed and you're fine. The next couple posts will probably be some faggot trying to scare you into thinking you're fucked. Piss on that.

yeah I thought the same thing about LSD too, only reason I included it was because it is listed as one of the tested substances on the lab order

I was considering drinking just one day a weekend and scheduling my tests for Thursday morning. Thinking its a little risky if I overdo it once though

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Yeah believe me I'm an specialist

appreciate it

I'm testing clean right now, i went cold turkey with no issues. just want to find a way around this so i can drink at school

Jesus Christ, you don't have the strength to make it four more months? What happens to your dumb ass if you try to cheat a week? Is it worth the risk?

Why don't you just be sober?

I'll tell my grandchildren about you user.
Fuck this out of control. drug bullshit has gone to far.

Because I'm a worthless piece of shit

>laughs at your obvious habitual tendencies
>regularly visits Sup Forums

again, ignore these faggots.

bro just slit your throat best high you can get

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that's what i'm planning on unless I find a reliable and proven way around it

this shithead can forget about any children because fucking would require him to have a good time, something he is not familiar with

anyway...

thats me shitting on you

yeah fuck em, being all responsible n shit

woa broh sounds groovy

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FUCK YOU NIGGER APE!!!!!!!!

Just kill yourself. If you can't be smart enough to play the long game and realize that "one of your last semesters" isn't going to mean fucking shit, then you should just end it now.