Australian fag here...

Australian fag here. who is oddly interested in American politics but has little to no clue about either of the parties or what they stand for. Which political member is best? Should I (figuratively) vote for Hillary, because both Bernie and Obama are Democrats like her, or Donald Trump?

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You should vote for Hillary because the Republicans have turned into a complete joke

This is wrong. Republicans have ALWAYS been a joke, but then Trump came and pissed all over their self-entitled parade. "Vote" Trump.

You shouldn't vote. Both candidates are cancer

throw a molotov, not a ballot

i guess that's too radical even for the nazis

you're gonna be sucking dick and regretting it either way

>both
>not voting for Johnson so at the very least Libertarian party can get on the ballot

Another Ausfag here mate.

They're both shit honestly but Hilary is the worst. Both as a politician and because of her deteriorating health. She has miniature seizures whenever she's under pressure from interviewers or reporters.

I even doubt she knows what she's even doing. It's most likely other people telling her what to do.

OP: you seem to forget that in America they aren't required by law to vote. so most of them won't.

well, both are idiots.

hillary is a crook and would be in prison if she had not been famous and running for prez.

Trump is like a little kid, but he actually is the better choice.

I was democrat all the way until I got old enough to see how the world really works (at 25 years old).

I don't agree wholeheartly with the reps, but they are the far better choice than the idiots on the left right now. they've gone too far to the left.

You mean there is a country other than North Korea where people are required by law to vote?

>Hilary is the worst.

how many companies has she tried to run, and had them fail?

how much money does she owe contractors, employees, suppliers, that she hasn't paid because she doesn't feel like it?

point out where she tries to appeal to the lowest common denominator by saying whatever stupid shit comes into her head.

sometimes i hope trump will get elected, because that will be the end of the American empire. it's like Caligula all over again, except without the bestiality.

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I'd say the entire country by selling out secrets to other governments and those leaked emails.

Like I said, they're both shit.

yeah, it's like that here too. I'm just asking a general question on who would be the better president

>failed companies and money owed

you sure know nothing about any other US presidents

Is that pic for real?
Jesus FC

You must be underage? Do you just have no concept of anything? Look up what their fucking policies are and decide for yourself. They have vastly different policies and differ on practically every single issue so it shouldn't be hard.

in american elections only two votes matter: republican and democrat, I'm being incredibly facetious but most retarded americans actually believe this. Especially with non-voters making up a majority of the population

this, you should seriously consider lampooning an election in real life because the internet told you to

I do. I'm asking people who have their own opinions on who they think the better president is, and who I should vote for

yeah, she was invited onto Ellen and she dabbed.

This is accurate. The GOP has been fucked for years, the rest of the world has known this, and now most americans are waking up to that fact.

Also:

There are actually racist bigot motherfuckers that live in the country, and believe the dumb shit Trumps talk about. He sounds like a racist, so the GOP's official stance is that he "doesn't represent the Republican Party's ideals" which he bullshit. He does, he is just running his mouth and the bigots are buying it and then just outing themselves as such, bigots.

>also Trump was just a sandbag for a guaranteed win for Hillary. Which isn't super duper, but better than trump. Hillary is just more of the same, she's dirty like the rest of the lifetime politicians and she is backed by bank money. So it'll be back to business as usual, which is what this country is all about, money.

you think Hillary will win?

You should vote for Hillary so everyone in America can unite against the most hated and most establishment candidate to ever win the presidency which will then bring about change that actually matters instead of continuing the bullshit two party dog and pony show and illusion of choice we've been presented with for so long. If Trump wins and isn't the greatest president of all time (which is obviously not likely) all the liberal cucks will just say I told you so and pretend Hillary would have been a much better choice.

you think she won't?

The whole fucking country can vote for Trump and the electoral college will assure Hillary is president. Are you fucking 5?

Please.

Trump will never be POTUS. The whole thing was either a sandbag or a game show host that took an ego trip a little too far.

In the meantime, it's showed the world that are indeed racist faggots that call people nigger, and faggot, and believe in jesus, and want to deport people, and build walls, and ALL THAT CRAZY SHIT that he was talking about.

Don't forget, The President doesn't have a TON of power anyway. The crazy shit he's talking about like deportation, building a wall, would take an act of fucking congress and that will never happen. They would never back his ideas because they are stupid and racist, or impossible.

That's the thing though, there are people out there that legit think we would make a good president. Spooky.

>enforcing immigration law is racist

modern liberals are mentally ill

lincoln was a republican.
kkk were democrats.
all in the past but still..

you're trying really, neoliberalist shill

either believe in the 2 party system or don't, right?

its not like alternatives exist, and a majority of the population not only understands that they exist but they're viable solutions.

maybe you're a baby boomer, that'd actually make sense

gotta pull myself up by muh bootstraps, muh greatest generation

>modern liberals are mentally ill

I'm not. The whole idea is a logistical nightmare. What are gonna do, round everyone up and put them on a boat them push them off into the Atlantic Ocean? And who is gonna pay for these boats, and round ups.

FFS.

wanna try again without using a buzzword every other word? I literally can't even comprehend this garbage.

Like the goddamn Democrats aren't even more of a joke.

no, you just self deport them by cutting off their ability to work and send money back to mexico

this.

>>how many companies has she tried to run, and had them fail?
>I don't know how businesses work

>>point out where she tries to appeal to the lowest common denominator by saying whatever stupid shit comes into her head.
>I don't know how professional politicians work

>>point out where she tries to appeal to the lowest common denominator by saying whatever stupid shit comes into her head.
Shit man, she's always switching sides depending on whatever is currently popular.

>how many companies has she tried to run, and had them fail?
yet Trump is extremely wealthy, in order to become rich you have to take chances and start up multiple businesses. Do you think he cares that some of his companies have failed? No because hes still rich in the end and you're just a beta male cuck who wants a fat saggy ass criminal woman to come and dominate you, you stupid fucking piece of trash fucking retard shit bitch. I'll fucking find where you live and fucking kill you and then fuck your bitch except you don't have a bitch so ill fuck either your pets or your body pillows you fat fucking cut piece of shit.

fags

Oh, it's the mexican thing? I thought we were supposed to be scared of terrorists. And dangerous ideologies like Islam, and Isis.

>which has been his platform for immigration reform this whole time

There is a difference between enforcing immigration law and throwing out bat shit cray ideas that are logistically impossible, too expensive, morally/ethically questionable.

Also
>mexicans aren't the problem

Mexico
>im not paying for that fucking wall
Stop the 25 billion flowing to mexico in illegal funds and you pay the one time fee of 10 billion in half a year and you have that wall paying dividends.

In that process you create jobs and increase wages.

> C-c-can you p-p-please type that ag-g-gain? I c-c-cant understand what you're saying because I don't know big words.

no, stopping terrorists, drugs, human trafficking is why you build a wall.

I don't care what you think the problem is. I'm just calling you an idiot for crying racism when people care about stopping illegal immigration.

You should be concerned with muslims.
Their doctrine is to breed like rabbits disrupt society and take over after which they kill people off in "legal" shaira executions.

>im going to ignore everything he typed because it's easier to call it a buzzword

im implying:

>you're being sarcastic/ironic as a defense for trump

>obviously better alternatives exist

>a majority of americans have been shit on by this system for years

>millennials are actually the one generation that feels compelled to fight against this, and are smart to vote against the neoliberal bullshit that drowns us

I don't care if you vote green party, constitution, yellow or fucking orange party as long as independent votes are being cast when people stay genuine to their politics instead.

the media will have to report that independent votes are making a change in the american political landscape. We may still end up with a bipartisan candidate but baby steps my man. A few steps closer to having a varied and fair democracy.

Its either that or fascism, blue or red coloring doesn't matter

The Libertarian party is trash, and trash belongs in the gutter, not in public office. Incidentally the commienazi fags who run my city are suing me for throwing my trash in the gutter, but that's where it belongs, right along with the Libertarian Party.

>Stop the 25 billion flowing to mexico in illegal funds and you pay the one time fee of 10 billion in half a year and you have that wall paying dividends.

yes type it again please. I'm just a dumb conservative who barely passed 6th grade I don't have a PhD like all you highly intelligent liberals.

Fucking Australians , their country is so big they dont even know other countrymen already have to deal with aboriginals.
Now they want arab terrorist and african niggers.

> C-c-can you p-p-please type that ag-g-gain? I c-c-cant understand what you're saying because I don't know big words.

>no, stopping terrorists, drugs, human trafficking is why you build a wall.

You think a wall is gonna do that huh? Gonna stop all those things from happening? Got news for you son...

At least Australia can handle gun laws.

voting third party is only a good idea if they actually have a chance at winning. to have a chance at winning you have to convince everyone they have a chance at winning. the current system does exactly the opposite of that. anyone who isn't an absolute retard knows this.

>that racist wall won't stop 100% of crime therefore we shouldn't even consider it!

kill yourself

>Got news for you son...

a little bit triggered are we?

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lel nice meme friendo xD !!!!!

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you like my buzzwords? I got plenty more where that came from you cuck.

Theyre both terrible but i want trump to win just to see the massive chimpout

Oh a non-American trying to vote in America?
How are you trying to move here friendo?

I remember reading this story the government taking the guns of austrailians.
Your home invasions rose with 900% or something

There is only one savoir of western civilization.

dude no one knows how anything works here in america. it's outside of our control. no one gives a fuck, we just go to work, come home, watch netflix, and do it all over.

That wall got passed by congress in 2006 , obama just never finished it.

The places with wall sections have remarkably low crime rates for a mexico us border section.

>figuratively

I thought it was merkel

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The democrats have always been the better choice, but since the Reps have a majority in Congress or the House (Dutchfag so I really wouldn't know what's what), any laws the Demmies would want to pass will get blocked by the Reps anyway.
America is either going to turn into a shitshow where the nukes are wheeled out before the Don even is inaugurated, or it's a 4-year standstill because Hillary hasn't got the balls to do anything worthwhile. Either way America isn't going anywhere with these 2.

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I don't see anything but white people behind that wall and you can't be racist against white people! White people are immune to adversity!

bullshit

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>until I got old enough to see how the world really works (at 25 years old).

Oh trust me, you ain't seen shit yet. Not that I'm saying you are wrong about Hillary. It's just that this big stinking pile of shit you've been handed by the older generations, it gets worse, and worse.

>the idiots on the left right now. they've gone too far to the left.

The US effectively has no left. We have a centrist right, and a far right. The far right collectively thinks Hitler was a liberal and a communist, and that the world is only 6000 years old. The centrist right are seemingly a little more sensible but all they really care about is turning the world into a modern feudal kingdom run by corporate conglomerates, with the majority of all people being turned into serfs. We're fucked no matter what.

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you underestimate the sway former "3rd party" politicians had in this election. Bernie was a democratic socialist who took up the democratic label, and got smeared by the DNC and neoliberal agenda. Trump is a conservative revolutionary who's being currently smeared by neoliberal /idpol/.

You're seeing this as a noose that is closing fast, when in reality we should be seeing this as a small victory for fringe and unheard voices of america

Shame we'd call ourselves American when we'd fall upon the comforts of conformity

>Shit man, she's always switching sides depending on whatever is currently popular.
I believe you're confusing Hillary with Trumpie

youtube.com/watch?v=kSE-XoVKaXg

Trump wants to enforce the border

Ban Muslims from entering the country, which is a good thing when you look at Europe.\

Make other countries build up their own military instead of relying on the US, or just pay the US.

Considers NATO obsolete, and would like to end it, and just have a standard alliance instead.

He's non-interventionist, and opposed the Iraq & Afghanistan wars, opposed the bombing of Libya & Syria, and opposes the build up against Russia, and would like to improve relations with Russia.

He supports import tariff's, which will make it more feasible to manufacture in the US and remain competitive.

Opposes Nafta and the TPP
And so on. He's better than Hillary, who is pro intervention, pro TPP, not interested in improving relations with Russia, and supports the continued build up against them, wants to bring in millions of Muslim refugees & migrants from the middle east & north africa, turning the US into Europe, she thinks independent right wing media has no right to exist, she wants to end the 2nd amendment, and so on. How can anyone actually support her?

I'm fairly certain Trump isn't actually a racist, he just plays one in the media.
It's a thermonuclear ratings bomb, even if it causes pervasive radicalization and severe lasting damage to the country both domestically and in foreign policy. But like Trump gives a shit.

Bernie endorsed Hillary Clinton "because Trump must not become President". Your idealism is nice but it's completely inapplicable to this year's election.

2012 she was doing okay and was able to hide her faults.

The world only works that way because all you weak fucks abandon the fight to stay at the feeding trough.

If even 10% of you maintained a spine instead of giving up in your 20s it would be enough to shift away from this boomer shitshow.

Did you say racist?

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Did you read my post or are you hipfiring memes at buzzwords?

she was against same sex marriage in 2012, yet she was 'doing okay'?

>hillary is a crook and would be in prison if she had not been famous and running for prez.
>what is mens rea
Shes been convicted in the court of public opinion. Every other court of investigative body who doesn't consist of Youtube commenters, has thrown it out. But then the same people still insist Obama is a Kenyan special agent spreading islam..

>court of investigative body
*or

are you seriously implying marriage as a meaningful argument?

go Beauty and the Beast alone in a dark room with some Ben & Jerry's you fucking faggot.

I kinda dont understand why we are not pro Hillary.

She is for segregation
pro rape
PRo pedo
Anti gay

>marriage
>definition: union of man and woman

>same sex union of man and woman
>??? logic

There is no such thing as "same sex" union of a man and woman. This has ALWAYS been the main argument from conservatives. Stop re-defining institutions.

If gays want unions, let them... nobody cares. But stop stealing words and definitions.

Ftr Trump isn't the one openly calling for terrorist attacks and militant separatism.
The problem with Trump is that Trump is irrelevant. Whether he gets shot, gets voted in, or voted out, the outcome is the same. Trump has been the catalyst for alt-right radicalism. Just as jihadists are on the cusp of passing the torch in global terrorism focus, Trump's sort is laboring intensively to take it. Across west Europe and north America they've been intensifying activity and ramping up bomb hits and other attacks, but they were a crazy fringe nobody took seriously. Now they have over one hundred million supporters in the US thanks to Trump, and an equivalent amount in Europe thanks to local contemporaries running the same scam. For reference, ISIS at its peak had 25.000 supporters. Good luck in the coming 40 years westerners, you'll need it..

2nd photo is a shoop. Robert Byrd joined he Klan in the 1940's and renounced them in the 1950's and apologized about his his mistake for the rest of his life.

Trump has gone from democrat to republican
Trump has gone from pro-choice to pro-life
Trump has gone from Universal healthcare to none
Trump has gone from pro gun regulation to anti gun regulation
and the list goes on and on and on...

He has done a TOTAL 180 just to pander to the only people stupid enough to vote for him; the in-breds and rednecks in the red flyover states

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i'm not using him as the absolute voice for freedom, but it's undoubted that he was a voice for 3rd party interest. I'm sure the clinton foundation more than paid for his shitty house in vermont. Plus he still had seats and influence in congress to defend. Any congressman running for president takes a major risk. Any American should know this

I'm not adhering to any political ideology outside the basic interest of democracy

What I'm trying to say is rome wasn't built in a day. Still Interest in non bipartisan candidates should be taken seriously

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You take that out of contexts.
If more terrorist attack people might realize that muslims are bad, this is good.

You dont understand that these Muslims have been every ones enemy for 1400 years and they will continue to be every ones enemy until they rewrite the book, win or all die.

Stop getting so worked up over how people experience personal issues inside their head.
You're crying oppression over your right to blanket mind control being called into question.

What about hillary fighting to re-segragate nigga

News flash democrats have been playing your black ass all this time.

Atleast in my family they carried on the storys.

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You are missing the point. Lots of people take third party candidates seriously but nobody will vote for them because they assume they have no chance at winning. It's a self fulfilling prophecy and the current system weighs heavily in favor of the two establishment parties.

Its so twisted, who is the best to do the uranium deal, hillary.
Should we make one, no

Pro life pro choice, his words on one hypothetical, "i guess so"

>What about hillary fighting to re-segragate nigga
u wot m8?
also
I'm as white as they come kid
also
it's spelled "stories"
stay ignorant

Tim Kaine will be president after, at most, 5 months after the election.

Trump is a no-win bluff. The GOP vote will be divided and Shillary will win.

Shillary was pushed to the top of the DNC by the workings of the new world order on account of her being a woman and in poor ailing health.

She'll either degrade quickly after the election, or mystetiously die and POTUS will shift to the VEEP.

And Time Kain is halfway decent except for the fact that the NWO owns him and our puppet government will finally be complete.

Screencap this shit. Its going to happen.