How do you feel about the fact that Beyonce is the most significant mainstream artist of the current decade?

How do you feel about the fact that Beyonce is the most significant mainstream artist of the current decade?


inb4:
>kanye
remember the trump thing
though overall he's probably the second one after her

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I want to see her get hit by a car.

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS

Another white girl? ugh

>remember the Trump thing
How does that make him less significant? lmao. At least he's not a globalist puppet like Beyonce.

it makes him less mainstream

this fact could make him less influential, the music is really not the most important thing in this industry

I don't care very much for mainstream music so it doesn't really change my feelings much. I don't think any single artist had that much of an impact. I would consider all the mainstream shit, Taylor, Kanye, Beyonce, even ones you wouldn't think of like Twentyone Pilots, all these artists had a similar impact on the niche they carved out within the mainstream. They also have crossover appeal, people that listen to one type of this garbage likely listen to at least one or more others.

But if we're going to be brutally honest Justin Bieber made better music (still not great) than all of them and despite taking many Ls in the recent past has come to a point in his career where his cultural relevance is no longer in question. He doesn't need to view any of these artists as competition.

While these morons are at each others throats, Taylor especially, snubbing Bey/Jay on the Tidal deal, starting shit with Kanye. While Kanye is embarrassing himself in new and unheard of ways. While Beyonce and Jay-Z want nothing to do with the Kardashian sideshow and lose a bit of the accumulated star power and link to the youngest generation... Well...

People are listening to shit like Twentyone Pilots, Justin Bieber, Shawn Mendes, Alessia Cara, and fuck knows what else. These fuckers haven't been on the radio in awhile...

Shit I should have mentioned The Weeknd, otherwise that list sure is awfully white.

Boy Beyonce is looking whiter and whiter w/every passing day.

Think she's trying to be the female Michael Jackson?

pretty ok

i don't care about her music but she seems nice

>otherwise that list sure is awfully white
>This is an argument on 2017* Sup Forums

Need at least one token in there

>This is an argument on 2017* Sup Forums

adele is the most significant mainstream artist of this decade and it's not even close.

She's the only artist with a 20 million+ album this decade, and she did it twice

>kanye
How does him talking about trump make him less relevant? A lot more people talk about him that Beyonce. At least internationally, Idk about in the states.

In any case, who fucking cares? If you don't like these people, don't pay attention to them.

STOLE MAH WEEAAAVVVEEE!!!#shook#blm#pressed

>that
than*

Why have i only just learned this then??

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because you don't care about popular music

look at how dark she was on this cover. something like that would never sell today

I want to bite that lower part of her ass cheeks.

And then slap it and watch it jiggle.

2004 was a year where every single #1 Billboard hit was by a black artist. Imagine the teutonic plate-shifting shitstorm that would've occured if Sup Forums existed back then.

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I really don't care about the mainstream. And she's not an artist - she's a performer.

It's crazy how much you know for someone who doesn't care.

You must first care to know but it is not a necessity to care after knowing.

>album sales
their bread and butter comes from touring, sperg

She's a big ass with some mediocre songs attached to it.

You might be onto something. Hating Bieber was also the greatest normalfag meme of the early 2010s

Longevity is key and beyonce's s schtick in 2016 will be left in 2016

She'll do another album and it will be huge, yeah, but it will be very out with the old and in with the new

Beyonce makes meme pop suited for the time of its arrival

She's been making either R&B or dance songs for a very long time.

#SLAY OMG THIS IS EVERYTHING

this is correct. it's in vogue if you're a black artist to play to the "woke" SJW/BLM crowd in order to sell records because they'll think listening to your music is a political expression

if/when the current racial climate in the states dies down, Beyonce/Solange/Kendrick/literally everyone else will disappear from the mainstream

>adele
Protip: it's because her primary fanbase ranges in ages from 30-80

it shows how many fans she has, even if she doesn't get a penny from it

not like her tours aren't sold out anyway.

I couldnt care less about an artist thats considered tho most significant mainstream at any given point because that usually just means they appeal to the lowest common denominator. I guess thats interesting in its own way but usually doesnt make for music id enjoy in my free time. Either way id say im her biggest fan if it meant i could put my tongue in there desu senpai

>Lumping kendrick in with those hacks.
what even

what did he mean by this?

>a hypocritical Sup Forumsdrone

i think he is implying that kendrick lamar has talent and is not just a nigger speaking fast about his shit life

>oh wait

but don't you know the world has gotten more nigger and liberal for every year these facts make no sense

>le rap is just fast talking meme
wew lad

his producers have talent that's for sure
that's also relevant to beyonce and solange

some of most reddit phrases:

all of my yes
for science
NOPE
you sir are a gentleman and a scholar
the hero ___ deserves

how do you know

Yeah no dip but its all about the feel, the image, the posturing, the thoughts of pride implanted in the listener

What i mean is those postured thoughts will just be swapped out for new ones that fit the times, and than slapped onto the musics frame

it seems like stuff they would say, judging from the memes about them.

>implying that rap isn't just rhyming words quickly over a simplistic beat

did you ever read dr seuss? shit was made for children. The same principle applies with rap. Why do you think niggers are so good at it? prove me wrong cunt

>Beyonce is the most significant
outside of America nobody gives a fuck about Beyonce

Who's the most significant outside the USA?

Nozart

lance davis

>jazz is just random noises overlapping each other
>metal is just random flailing on drums and guitars while someone yells
>classical is just spamming scales up and down a piano while some strings follow along
youtube.com/watch?v=ooOL4T-BAg0
Lyricism and flow in rap takes as much technical skill as learning and playing an instrument.
t. guitarist

T Swift and Bieber

i don't think beyonce is not as significant as these

A lot more people talk about those two and Kanye than Beyonce, at least in Australia

ask any yurrupean

That's "ask anyone where I am" episode

I'm from Australia and I don't think people care about Taylor Swift more than Beyonce, they're at least equally unpopular nowadays
They sure talk about Kanye much more but that's because he's the biggest attention whore

Why is old Beyonce so much better than nu-yonce?

I think it's cause her old songs were a lot happier, she's went to far with the whole slut/black empowerment thing

youtube.com/watch?v=Ob7vObnFUJc

>if/when the current racial climate in the states dies down
So never?

this is correct. literally every person knows who adele is and can enjoy her music. no other artist has universal appeal like that

What a total cuck

4 and the s/t are way better than lemonade holy shit

XD so edgy bro!

I was about to say I don't like her but I remembered how much I listened to this:
m.youtube.com/watch?v=-evuKPEp3KE

It's just fucking Brandon

i want to fuck her butt

You can say that the voice is an instrument that requires as much training as any other, but rapping is nowhere near as difficult as playing jazz or orchestral composition. That's just disingenuous

Peaked caps on women = fuck yes

i don't like her either; i mean every person has the capacity to enjoy her music. uptight suburban moms don't have that capacity for kanye or even a lot of beyonce's music

Also you need to just listen to one modern mumbletrap song to know that the lyrics, wordplay, and vocal dexterity hardly are what matters

Do black people like her?

The answer to this robot's question is "no" because will smith is just a black rapper

>woman doesn't look like a boy
>Brandon can't handle it
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Kanye is the most significant mainstream artist of the last decade too desu senpai

based uptight suburban moms

>remember the trump thing
In what way does that tarnish Kanye's significance as an artist? Dali sold out to the fascists and he's still widely regarded as one of the most important artists of the surrealist movement.

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I can't tell if you're agreeing with him on the whole "slut empowerment made her shit" line of thought, but her s/t album is far more political than Lemonade (that, apart from "Formation", barely has any ouvert feminist discourse without its visual album), so your point would be moot.

Careful lad

>some of the most reddit phrases:
>all of my yes
>for science
>NOPE
>you sir are a gentleman and a scholar
>the hero ___ deserves

>it makes him less mainstream
No, it doesn't. It make him more controversial and maybe he'll sell a little less because of that, but he's still very much influental in today's pop culture. The operative word here is "significant", not "popular", and while those two usually go hand in hand, it doesn't mean they're one and the same.

I probably don't fully agree I'm just saying I like those albums more. Beyoncé prior to those two albums I mentioned is not a Beyoncé I'm very familiar with desu

it literally makes him less popular after the hype is done

Wtf I love Dali now

>The operative word here is "significant", not "popular", and while those two usually go hand in hand, it doesn't mean they're one and the same.

I'm glad that I minced my words while still being able to make my point, then.

>Beyonce is the most significant mainstream artist
>mainstream

Do you think Beyonce has been fucked in the ass?

Oh great another mulatto cunt for edgy shitlibs to listen to while they talk about how woke they are

eh, he will more or less retain the same level of popularity or presence in the mainstream for the time being, but i can see how he would become less influential as an artist because people are less inclined to take him seriously

Kelly Rowland was actually hotter than Beyonce in her prime during Destiny's Child.

They both operate on the mainstream and they're both more popular than Jesus. If you want to make this a popularity contest pure and simple, then by all means take the cake to Beyoncé, but if we're talking about significance (i.e. popularity plus political, social, cultural, artistical significance), there's a case to be made that we're living in Kanye's world.

no one outside of america even knows who kanye west is

if not for his marriage to a lite-pornstar and a reality tv show star

also he has zero artistical or cultural significance
prove me wrong

>if we're talking about significance (i.e. popularity plus political, social, cultural, artistical significance), there's a case to be made that we're living in Kanye's world

that's arguable

Do those countries listen to other rap at least? Because Kanye influenced them.

Well, I'm not from the U.S., I have plenty of friends (indie-geeks like me and casual music listeners alike) and all of them know about and praise Kanye West's music very much. As for artistical and cultural significance, I could list hundreds of artists, both from and outside hip-hop, that have been influenced by him, but I'll just name two: Frank Ocean and Bon Iver.

Oh, it's definitively arguable, but, as I said, there's a case to be made, just like there's one for Beyoncé.

You clearly have no idea about the world "outside of america".

>another
she's one of the main ones I thought

Not arguments.
Neither of you have proven that user wrong and you're just being elitists with no substantial rebuttals.
Explain why rapping isn't as hard of a practice as another instrument, by technical standards.

There's obviously a skill gap between the likes of Vanilla Ice, Project Pat and Mighty Casey to Eyedea, Immortal Technique and Kendrick Lamar. But you'll just select a few strawmen just to generalize I'm sure.

Who am I kidding, you're probably just looking to ruse.

Bob Dylan can't write a symphony either, your bait is trash.