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Bulgarian development edition

We might be the only country to go from communism to demographic growth

Bulgaria is the opposite

Haha, decent banter m8

lol that looks like sckopje

Sofia theme 2017
youtube.com/watch?v=bcuAw77J8_Y

Skopje theme 2017
youtube.com/watch?v=mUHDYlJHaOQ

>Already richer than Serbia AND Bulgaria

serious question, so i expect serious answer: are you retarded.

We are proud of our mosques, ancient history, economic growth, no crime and very high standards of living

youtube.com/watch?v=S-t9XX2PXXM

Allah is akbar as long as you live in Macedonia

We have more money in our system

Even if it doesn't go to our pockets directly it goes to our country.

This means our country is better than yours

>We have more money in our system
No you dont. The tax money are meme money that literally does not exist.

My question still stands, and i really like to know your serious answer.

Haha, good for you m8

>ancient history
>26 years since fyromian secession from yugoslavia

It does kinda look like Stara Zagora.

fyrom looks 3rd world compared to us on these maps. Guess it must be true that 100% of the budget goes to Skopje

We need more taxes on wages so we can fund big infrastructure projects like this one

youtube.com/watch?v=tjzgOFZUi70
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We can't reach for EU gibs like you

When we have them we can lower taxes and instantly increase our net wage because the money is already there.

How are we third world, because all our regions are getting funding? You epic imbecile.

youtube.com/watch?v=VsNoRFH506Q

Can you even understand what i was asking you?
The question was: are you retarded.

It's a simple yes/no question.

because you have blue, aka Africa tier regions

Macedonia is surrounded by shit

welp I guess the UK and Germany are worse than Serbia that map settles it

Will I fuck your mother tonight?

Don't answer that.

>map from 2012
>pottery

The Smilkovci Lake killings (Macedonian: мacaкapoт кaј Cмилкoвcкoтo eзepo, "massacre at Smilkovci Lake") took place on 12 April 2012. Five ethnic-Macedonian civilians were shot and killed by ethnic Albanians at a man-made lake near the village of Smilkovci, outside the Macedonian capital Skopje.

I can shitpost against the entire Bulgarian nation

Because they have zero facts and they are funny

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

>Bulgaria 59th
>FYROM 81st

AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

it was legit question. So far you didin't answer it, instead you spergposted. The answer is pretty obvious by now, but i was hoping to get one from your perspective.

Stay safe, i wont make fun of you any more because i really think making fun of the handicapped is a bad thing.

So 5 innocent kids were whacked by albanians

Now they are doing life , what's your point?

>literally better to live in the derelict favela murder arenas of Mexico and Brazil than in Fyromia

APEX KEK

How could a Shitfian make fun of anyone?

I would expedite suicide if I was you.

my point is that you try to shittalk our crime rate, while you regularly have such events on top of actual battles with albanian separatist, like the last one in Kumanovo.

also, guess what, unimportant backwaters do tend to have lower crime rates

It's so terrible here

I can't wait to immigrate to Bulgaria

I haven't had food in one month

>Macedonia 1st (first) world nao
>muh flags n sheeit
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>my point is that you try to shittalk our crime rate

Because you have Africa tier murder rates, crime and probably burglaries.

>while you regularly have such events
Mistake. We had ONCE. This is why you can't quote other such events.

>actual battles with albanian separatist
Those weren't separatists they were ex-uck monkeys from Kosovo. They came there and started shooting.

Our police got them we didn't even have to send in army.

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At first I thought you were memeing, but now that you spam these every single day, I actually am starting to think you really think that Macedonia is richer than Bulgaria (kek)

Yes, Brazil, Botswana, Sri Lanka, Suriname (wat?), Memedonia are above us in "prosperity". Does Gruevski make these graphs or what?

GDP Per capita:
Bulgaria 20,116
Macedonia 14,530

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There is nothing more to talk about.

incorrect, your police """"got them""""" cornered before NATO intervened and cucked you so hard you actually gave them what they wanted

while iki the turk is fucked in the head, your condition is greatly influenced by the ridiculous fyromian culture of disregarding fact and replacing it with fiction

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We arrest albanian isis and put it on youtube theyre such a joke

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We arrest corrupt cops and cleanse our forces

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I am talking about a different event, stupid, they had to enter Kumanovo with armored vehicles and burn some houses, it happened a couple of years ago

sorry I lose track of Albo separatist wars in FYROM

oh I remember now this is the one where Boyko openly said our troops are preparing to invade them to "keep the peace"

Read If living in Bulgaria didn't make it clear to you, your average is less than 500 euros. Our surpassed that like 2 years ago.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

lol, 2014

2016 now Macedonia surely is leader in terms of homicide in Europe after another civil war has lead to dozens of dead people. If id be a young perspective Macedonian id go away, otherwise there is always risk of dying in civil war or by terrorist action.

and yet you have way lower purchasing power. That's pretty funny

It was Lavrov the Kremlin clown who said we were preparing to invade them.

no Boyko said "our forces are looking at strategic points" I'm almost quoting him here

Could be.

but yeah Lavrov put out some strong bait that us and the Albos were gonna partition FYROM. As if we don't have enough shithole regions of our own

Memedonia:
Average gross salary
32,794 MKD / 606 $, monthly (Apr. 2016)[4]
Average net salary
22,356 MKD / 413 $, monthly (Apr. 2016)[

Bulgaria:
Average gross salary
Increase BGN 11237 (annual, 2016)[7]
Average net salary
Increase BGN 8900/ € 4550/ $ 5000 (annual, 2016

It's obviously not.

I do not care that our median wage is slightly higher than Fyromian, autists do not undersand variance is much greater within the sample sets than between sets. It does not matter.

What matters is that there are thousands of Fyromians studying and living here, while the opposite is not true.

>If id be a young perspective Macedonian id go away

Move away from one of the best countries in europe because there is a "potential of civil war"? Faggot

If there is I am so ready

>thousands of Fyromians studying and living here

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

The opposite might not be true because there is no way for Bulgairans to get in here. Otherwise you would.

Neither do I, what's important is the purchasing power and how much you can buy with it. Even if Memedonia has a slightly closer salary to ours, they can still buy way less with their money than we can with ours.

HOWEVER, this Monkeydonian is wrong in spills bullshit every time he types so I'm just correcting him

They remain isolated and hated by their neighbors. Even Serbia has started placing Fyrom signs on the borders. They are openly and publicly humiliated in Greece (stickers on cars, empty signs on highway exits to Skopia), and they don't ever go to Albania. And yet autists like this one here chooses to banter us, the only country that welcomes them.

bgn 11k means 1k per month

1k bgn is 500 usd

The only bugarophilles in high positions here are our minister of foreign affairs Antonio Milososki and ex pm Ljubco Georgievski

The rest don't know we are Bulgairans. shame I want us to get back to being Bulgarian too

Actually, you're wrong again.

1 Bulgarian lev=0.54339 U.S. dollars. That's quite a big difference from 1 dollar worth 0.50 lev.

Anything else you want to embarrass yourself with? Post more of the same roads you've been posting for 30 consecutive threads?

stop shitposting

realistically, where on the HDI index do you think you need to be to be considered first world? I'd say top 35

>they can still buy way less with their money than we can with ours

We get more infrastructure because more tax money goes in the budget (hence can build projects without getting in debt) and our cost of living is lower.

Everything is cheap here except real estate and land.

I dont know about HDI but both Bulgaria and Macedonia as well as any other country in this region except the Greeks are miles away from 1st world, Greeks doing everything they can to leave this status as early as possible. With GDP per capita you can measure it pretty good, >30k is pretty much first world.

GDP pc is not a great indicator because it ignores everything else like inequality. I think Equatorial Guinea was like top 10 in GDPpc recently but there's 5 billionaire guys and millions of starving ones

and Greece is 29th in HDI so they're trying hard to slip my 35 border

Post Bulgarian rural development

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And what? You think you're the only nation in the world that is building roads? Your public debt is 40%, ours is 12% less, so... what's your point here?

I can look at your cost of living, but it's not necessary since your PPP (probably the most accurate way to measure wealth, although it has it's flaws) is 8,000 less.

Unfortunately, even the HDI isn't the best tool of measuring wealth.

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>even the HDI isn't the best tool of measuring wealth.
not wealth but standard of living. Some Norse reindeer farmer may not be "rich" but he has good hospitals, roads state services available

...and in the end, whatever the quality of social services, he lives in fucking Norway.

norway is pretty mang

Yes, we're aging. You, Turkey and Albania are not. Congrats.

Yeah, I can agree with that. However, that puts smaller countries with less people and territory at an advantage.

You're correct, of course, but I prefer to measure the wealth of countries rather than their development index.

>watching a documentary on milosevic and his reign after the bosnia war
>it's literally Gruevski 0.1
>same media control, same rhetoric, same counter-protests, same election rigging

How the fuck are we where Serbia was 20 year ago? And more importantly why the fuck was Gruevski so retarded to think he would end up any differently from Slobo?

We were never the same as Serbia

Have you ever considered people keep voting him in because he's just really good?

no seriously, it's literally the same rhetoric

it's like slobos ghost possessed grujo and is speaking through him

Not really you impressionable faggot

Gruevski is pro-west he's not a russian plant that genocides countries

Also it's pretty clear SDSM is winning the next elections so I don't know why you're crying. It's not liek we don't have democracy

I thought SDSM and VMRO were totally equal

also where is Stojance he's my favorite

>I thought SDSM and VMRO were totally equal

VMRO won by like 1 mandate. Dui shqips will coalition with them just like last time

The results were surprising because no one expected SDSM to do that good. They won all of Skopje.

>Stojance he's my favorite

Irrelevant. They won as many votes as Levica

Im not crying i know grujo is gonna die in prison, but thats only because the west cucked him, same as slobo

DUI will coalition with SDSM

it's over

He's in a coalition with Georgievski, but they didn't do good, the macedonian vote is split between SDSM and DPMNE

>grujo is gonna die in prison

More like he'll step down and chill. He's not an impulsive serb faggot.

Gruevski will not go in prison

>DUI will coalition with SDSM

You're saying shit that makes no sense.

Enlighten me with an article or video of DUI saying they'll coalition with SDSM.

Btw I'm subscribed to like at least 2 opposition channels that shit on them all day and 1 shqip channel. I know the tv stations too. If you want opposition shilling it's so easy to find.

They had protests, revolutions, etc. We're not draconian

lol of course he will

not because of war crimes obviously, because of corruption

DUI plays by the american tune, the americans want grujo out, that's all there is to it. And even if they do coalition with grujo it will be the end of their party, no albanian will ever vote for them and a lot of their elected ministers will defect.

Baga-mi-as pul in ei turci bulgari si albanezi, chan romanesc cand avem si noi?

There is nothing wrong being greek

You provide no source for DUI coalition with SDSM

I noticed their entire campaign was based on lies. like they lied about immigration and promised no action plan except "Hurr 1000 eur average wage"

>the americans want grujo out
They love him. He's active in NATO and collaborates with them all the time. We got almost as much American gibs through USaid as Albania.

>And even if they do coalition with grujo it will be the end of their party
Wrong. DUI voters don't mind coalition with VMRO. They just vote because Ali Ahmeti was the leader of UCK and they stay loyal to him even though he was in the wiretaps too. The other Albanian vote leaks to SDSM, all the Mk and Alb progressives vote for them.

>tfw almost 10 years in a crippling econ crisis
>tfw the hdi climbs year after year
Why are we so perfect?!

Because you are a Greek

very good post
You want to be greek too?

lol at the butthurt Bulgarians in this thread wanting Macedonia to fail. when it's miles ahead of Bulgaria in 30 years, you'll eat your words fags

Da

>Greece To Rebuild the Colossus of Rhodes

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Your move, macedonians.

>tfw you'll never be as based as this guy

Bulgarians also "want to" build a skyscraper but we already built 4

You have drawings

>the only "my wife's son" google result in bulgaria

>tfw erdogan implements a "no kafir policy" on your malls

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avem. chanon.ro

>We have already built
>Shows a picture of an unfinished building
Varna cucks all of your cities except MAYBE Skopje so don't compare Sofia to your shithole's capital.

kek
post long bike roads

chanon este singurul chan decent

puteti face si trafic de droguri pe chanon

haideti pe chanon!

Add the Spaniard.

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