I want to have a proper discussion about the whole trap/gay thing, no angry or hateful comments with no basis, just an open discussion:
Why do people get so furious over other people liking it ?
Why did it begin?
Do you believe overstimulation leads to stigmatic fetish's like traps and such?
Do you enjoy them? If so why and if not why ?
Let's sit and talk Sup Forums, grab a coffee, fleshlight, water or piss and begin ~
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not my cup of tea, looks hot but i go on the principle
What do you mean by principle ? Elaborate ?
I guess I'm a bit old fashioned I just go with a trap is male and boner killed
But is sexual attraction not a skin deep force ? Are we not animalistic in that way that it is all visual and aesthetic rather than practical, I mean we like fake tits and high lighting porn knowing that is unrealistic and so with that being said is attraction to a trap really a bad thing if it is just as shallow as the rest of our primal sexual desires? I'm not saying I'm right, I want to just explore the topic
I find the idea of a guy dressing up like a girl kinda humiliating, so I get turned on by that angle of it. It's the perceived submissiveness.
But then should submissiveness be considered less than dominance sexually ? Surely like everything we should have moderation in our roles so that we are balanced, I feel too much dominance or submissiveness is dangerous so maybe having an equal medium is what we need
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+ perhaps submission is humiliating to us males because we have a strong roll to hold up in this era of lost males amongst a strange time for gender rolls, unisex clothing, feminine males being sex icons, skinny men being romanticised. Perhaps if we accepted submissive sexual acts as well as dominant ones, we would be more comfortable and less insecure about how people perceive us
I'm sorta weird like that, sure I masturbate and whatever but I got a sorta line between yeah that's hot and the person being hot and me liking them personally makes them a lot more attractive
Come on man get out anyone who is in here having an actual intelligent conversation isn't going to herd over your trashposting
Well then that is a good sign for you, it is a good thing to still enjoy a personal touch to your sexual desires, part of Sup Forumss problem with sex is that it loses its personal side and becomes more a spectator sport, you should cherish the trait you have
what do you think OP?
humans, most of us, by born, are bi. logically percentage of pure straights should be equal to the percentage of pure gay, which is pretty low in numbers.
Well I'm the guy that has been replying to the previous posters but you can ask me specifics if you want , I think its a very interesting subject matter and a unique one in human history
>they should fuck off to a site of like-minded people
>can't say
>no
>no. they all dress like the type of women i like so i get tricked a lot
Why though ? There are people here who are lawyers, policemen, waiters, unemployed, gay, Arabian, black, white, white trash, nazis, sjw's, Jews, people who like scat or child porn and they don't have to leave so why the traps ?
we don't have 24/7 lawyers, policemen, waiters, unemployed, gay, Arabian, black, white, white trash, nazis, sjw's, Jews, people who like scat or child porn threads
the trap threads are probably run by people trying to normalize traps
That is true but they are vast and if they are trying to normalize it what is actually wrong in that? Yes their motive would be questionable and pretty depressing but is it bad in and of itself ?
yes it takes away space from other threads that aren't just ads for trannies
Okay so then you disagree with the method not the motive, I think this is part of where the anger stems, the anger which by the way is justifiable and I empathise with that, is a reaction to the posters but because the people can't pin point the posters the anger is directed at what the posters are spamming which in most cases aren't linked to them really
It really boggles me the fact that the US is only 1% bi. Too many people are scared to come out the closet I guess
>because majority hates anything thats not "normal" by social standards. these standards changes overtime.
>begin what? trap thing or the hate? traps were always there. when i went through my history(indian subcontinent), almost all the kings would have a hermaphrodite collection in their harems. "hijra" is also not very uncommon here. by nature they are very low in number so only privileged ones would have access. but today we have advanced in biology and internet which makes the production and access easier.
for the hate part..... im not sure.
>if you already like it may b u will like it more. if not at all, i dont think it will make you like it.
>yes. they look pretty. and im bi.
Well, I think the opposite actually. Gender fluidity and transgender people are so normal now, along with the idea that gender is a construct, that people growing up now won't fetishize traps like some people do now.
To me, the idea of dressing up a boy to be a pretty girl and then fucking her is incredibly dominant, and that's the key to the whole thing.
Also, I'm not attracted to vaginas specifically, but the general concept of femininity.
>I'm not attracted to vaginas specifically, but the general concept of femininity.
same for me
See I agree with you and would have opened the thread with the social standards but that usually gets people angry and I CBA with it being spammed by a bunch of guys with blind rage but yeah I'm the same way you are, I think any happiness or new experience that you enjoy that you can have ? Grab it
I don't understand what you disagree with , can you explain clearer?
And yeah I used to think that but the more I look around the more I see it is just a tiny minority that screams louder than the majority and so it creates a bigger silhouette than they are actually able to cast
Op again, yeah and I also thought about your last bit and its true! I had never thought about it that way but you are right in my case and I think most cases
Keep the replies coming, impressed so far
>began to watch porn
>female with a dick
>ohshit.org
Now they are the ones i cum the hardest too besides Ariel Winter
Just go with the flow
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A lot of people recommend baking soda to clean traps but it can be hard to apply. Easier to just remove the trap.
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The drain in the sink which we use for mouthwash consistently gets clogged by a very repugnant slime. I've tried all the common drain unclogging products (Drano, Liquid Plumber) as well as some non-standard remedies (e.g., boiling water, vinegar + baking soda), but none of them seem to help. Which means that once a year I have to remove the traps.
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I will probably post later and try and get a wider response if any of the earlier guys want to join
i'm bisexual and i am attracted to femininity
so females, femboys and transsexuals are an interest to me
>Do you believe overstimulation leads to stigmatic fetish's like traps and such?
absolutely, and overstimulation doesn't just lead to this stuff, it also leads to way more hardcore stuff like zoophilia or... cp
I know this because that's what happened to me. I m well conscious that it's very wrong and I m trying to stop watching porn and masturbating too much because it's a vicious circle
I agree (op)
Pure CT the post.
Just trap lovers trying to bust a nut.
and I do admit I have fetishes and fantasies but I also think that many anons here are going way too far and that's why it's a pain to see trap threads on every Sup Forums page
It isn't just a boy dressing as a girl that some of us see as a submissive act, it's femininity as a whole. Traits that have historically (in Western society) exemplified femininity? Naivete, being demure, pretty, childlike in features and actions, deferring to men etc. We are trained to think of ideal females as submissive. So when a boy takes that role, we see the trap the same way. There is definitely a humiliation aspect to it for a lot of people, like the trap is giving up their birthright of masculinity (something in this case seen as superior) and choosing to be feminine.
as if i'm going to believe that
I been posting traps here for years and tbqh I love it when shitposters go on a rage.
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posting the same troll for years and not being bored of it yet? that's not gonna happen
There's alwsys newfags to annoy.
but they're all going to reply with basically the same shit you've seen over and over for years
Every once and a while someone surprises me with something I haven't seen.
You make it sound like it's a full time job.
Well, I don't care about who likes what, but it's kinda annoying when this board is spammed with tranny cocks and other gay stuff. It's not like I can't hide those threads but still irritating in a way.. like ads during movies.
Traps are just gay guys. I can't think about them as females.. no straight people can. It's ok to be gay, but at least admit that.
Overstimulation always leads to a random fetish.. I experienced it myself. But being gay is more than just a fetish I think. I couldn't find any men attractive or think about sucking cock.
i still can't believe people fall for the liking traps isn't qay or the feminine penis meme
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Gay men don't like traps, they like men who look like men.
Your logic doesn't hold up even in the arbitrarily binary 'worldview' you live in.
But traps are gay themselves
im sorry, but whats sjw?
not necessarily, traps are just effeminate males who want to look more feminine in order to relieve some form of gender dysphoria.
Its about gender, not sexuality. Plenty of traps/ trans women exclusively date women.
OP back again any questions like before ?
Talking about myself, Im just curious about Male genitalia (dicks+balls) but not attracted to men. So traps are nice to look at for me
This is more realistic than anything else.
It's obviously not a black/white thing, there are cd's that "trap" that are straight and would never be caught dead with another guy, it's a bunch of different fetishes all jammed together under one roof.
I can't agree that trap threads take space away from other threads. At any one time there are 150 active threads on Sup Forums. The vast majority of threads generate little interest and quickly 404, to be replaced by new threads. There are only ever a few trap threads going on in Sup Forums at any one time: you can't realistically claim that they're crowding out better threads.
What I really don't get is the people who hate trap threads with such a passion that they'll sit in them for hours, obsessively posting scat and furry porn, to try and auto-prune them.
Across Sup Forums, there must be several thousand threads active at once: when I come here, I find the ones that I'm interested in, look at them and ignore everything else. Spending a significant part of your day actively trying to disrupt threads that you claim to hate is a really odd thing to do, when you think about it.