Why do people believe that non-nude is any better or morally satisfying than nude? Isn't all CP the same...

Why do people believe that non-nude is any better or morally satisfying than nude? Isn't all CP the same, in that it depicts kids being victimized and possibly mentally degraded/harmed? I'm genuinely curious as to why some people on this board have tried to justify any of it. I think CP can only produce suffering, regardless of whether the victim is clothed or not. Thoughts?
>inb4 OP is a pedo/fagget/etc.
>inb4 white knight.

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Non-nude is basically just modelling, which is something most teenage girls used to want to do back when I was that age, just assuming they still do.

It's modelling, but its sexually explicit. Doesn't that carry the same weight as regular cp then? Also, idk how many of those girls willingly said "yes" to those photo shoots

No, 70-80% of CP produced in 2016 is made BY children FOR children usually with a smartphone or webcam

I don't know about where you live, but in the US the laws are written so that context of the image is what decides if it is cp. Nudity is not required. So even non-nude models, like the ones on candydoll can be considered cp, especially if the pic focuses on the genital area.

it's not inherently sexual a lot of the time.
But yeah, it's more about whether they signed up for it. When they have a hundred sets taken and have their own fan sites and stuff, I'm inclined to think they did give it the OK. Or at least their parents did.

lol this

kids are horny as fuck

Perfect example of statement here This image -could- be considered cp.

On the question of mental health, do you think that even though they have a huge following online and in "those" communities, that the sexualization of their bodies at such a young age has a big impact on their mental soundness?

Does cp even exist?

most non nude child models are not sexually explicit. If you ever saw a video you would know that these videos mostly show the beauty of children, being dressed in cute clothes. they don't bend over and present their panties.
Girls in these videos are not harmed in anyway and are paid for what they do. There are no adults in those videos either. Just cute girls being cute.

> b-but muh pedderfiles
Shit like instagram and twitter has turned every kid into an attention whore, even the boys.
You give your kid a phone with internet access and a HD camera then you wonder why they're showing people their little anus.

Parents are responsible for parenting their own children.

Why would their parents sign them up for that? What would drive them to abuse their child/children in that way? Think along the lines of the studios they shut down in Ukraine in 2004, e.g. LS Studios.

They all become whores eventually

The fucked part of this is you could get jail time and a life-altering label for looking at cp, but the kid who took the selfie you're going to jail over gets treated like a victim.

Not charged with producing cp

Not charged with aiding in the comission of a Felony.

How fucked up is that.

Is this younow?

There have been instances where Ukrainian child modelling agencies have photographed their models nude with genital closeups and in sexually graphic poses/gestures. Don't fool yourself son, those people don't care about the "sanctity" of childhood.

Money. The parents sit in on the photoshoots to make sure the kids don't get raped.
People in eastern europe don't give a fuck about anglosphere concepts like childhood innocence or "moral corruption". They know their daughters will be using their beauty to get money from eventually anyway.

not that user but I believe their parents do not want to abuse their kids. I guess their kids just have an interest in modeling, like many kids do, so they just sign them up for what they can find.

It's also possible that some of them believe they are doing a good thing by providing this sort of material to pedos, possibly preventing them from raping a kid or whatever

I legitimately doubt that anyone would ever get in trouble for having a cache of clothed pics, unless they were pleasuring themselves or something.

is looking even considered a crime? I thought possessing it and creating it were the only offences

At the risk of sounding like an grumpy old person, I blame music videos for a lot of young sexulisation. Watching kids imitate the "dance" moves they see is just fucking creepy.

because they wanted their little dears to be models.

if they show nude parts they are no non nude modeling company though. that's just your regular cp

just tell me this site and move on with your discussion

Seconded

Looking = possessing given that it needed to be on your computer to display it on your monitor. Even if only temporarily. This counts as "production" in some countries too.

Yes, please. What site it this?

They hid behind the disguise of a non-nude organization/studio/photography company for years. That really wasn't the case though, and the authorities found hundreds of nude and very explicit photos. The "non-nude" was just a surface facade

Non-sexualised nudity is legal.

It's inappropriate to direct sexual impulses toward children. Children want to be loved and will do things that are not appropriate to please the people they care about. Nude/non-nude doesn't matter. If you are sexually attracted to children, please get help.

The way the law is written it all becomes subjective. A jury decides if the image is lewd or not.

Some girl twerking on a YT vid, probably not. Some chick bent over in front of her webcam flashing her camel-toe, yeah, you're gonna get time fo dat

Not true. Not at all. They punish stupid fucking kids and teens all the time for taking pics of themselves underaged. It counts as production

>Some chick bent over in front of her webcam flashing her camel-toe

younow gets me time?:/

Kids are sexual beings...as are adults. It's up to adults to teach kids self-control and restraint. And not to fuck them or jerk off to pictures of them.

There is always bad eggs
I'm talking about known and trsuted companies like candydoll

it is but tell me?

Only in the USA do they actually punish the kids for it.

INB4 op can't inb4

but why tell me***

No, it actually doesn't

How on earth is candydoll considered "known and trusted"?

Running across it innocently? No, you probably won't get in any trouble.

But they WILL go through your browsing history and attempt to establish a "Pattern of Behavior" and prosecute you for that.

Candydoll was forced to shutdown recently because of pressure from the US and europe, even though it was completely legal in japan

and UK actually.

That's just fucked up man.

Never heard it happpening here in the UK

If you save a lot of that shit, possibly, yeah.

They are popular in asia
theres magazines talking about them and shit

So basically the fbi monitors everyone's computer in the world now?

in the US they even put a 6 yo boy in jail because he dared to watch his 2 years younger sister wetting the roses.

> fucking autists

seriously? damn

You must have a keen interest, keeping tabs on different countries cases like this. Interesting.

Is it? That's because you're parroting the official line of the country of your birth. If you were russian or ukrainian you probably wouldn't give a fuck.

Check pixs.ru/gallery for an example of a russian image website.
Its randomly generated so don't blame me for what you find

You're acting like sexual attraction magically begins at the arbitrary age of 18, stop kidding yourself and everyone here

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:^)

>establish a "Pattern of Behavior" and prosecute you for that.

Nope that just gets you on a very very long list. if you then get involved in actual Cp (producing, rape of minor) they will refer to the list to see if youre in there and proceed accordingly
the list is there as a data base to help form suspect list when theres a discovery of a pedo ring/major bust of a cp trading deep web site

we're all in some list but it doesnt really matter if you dont fuck up big time

Yeah I don't think that's how that works

This is only a recent practice, like within the last 5 years recent, and often only used on the boys that share an image some girl sent them.

There was a case before that, though, were a 15 year old kid video'd him and his gf having sex. He got time for production, she got a shoulder to cry on even though she helped set up the camera

It would've been only a matter of time tbh. A site like that couldn't have lasted very long on the international stage

only if you're on windows 10 :)

Hot but the songs sucks
Then again I doubt they made the video for the music

vladmodels rules. candydoll and Sandra too. I love nn cp

All in all the whole legal age thing is a fucking joke. Laws circumventing a girl's ability to get pregnant? Making a girl's bodily urges come with jail time? Welcome to China niggas

well theres stll candydoll reborn

You keep on believing that. I love optimism.

My experience is otherwise, though

Can't tell if bait or childhood ignorance

can you post your full keyboard please?

Im pretty sure OP just invented the term nn cp today

So lets say you stopped watching it for years on end. Would that magically make you any safer?

never heard of that. is it basically candydoll or some fan project or what?

Go to librechan hebe board and have your mind blown.

Just because its banned on Sup Forums doesn't make it illegal.

So you actually went to prison huh?

There's nothing I can really do to get help for it.
After researching it the popular opinion seems to be like it's incurable and therapy does really nothing to stop it. I also fear if I tried to get help I would just get a lot of negative attention and probably have to deal with authorities in one way or another.

I mean I recognize the attraction is wrong and unnatural and I don't want to act on it ever. Although 2d loli threads trigger me but I try to stay away from them.

don't live your life in fear m8
just accept it and enjoy the kids playing in the streets. loli doesn't hurt either

Would the people with candydoll accounts get jail time though?

Candydoll was always 100% legal but the jews shut it down anyway because they want you to fap to interracial and tranny porn, not cute little girls

so if I created an account on a non-nude models forum, would I be arrested or charged?

You shouldn't be convicted, but you could still be arrested and charged because pedos are enemy of the state #1 and an easy target for scum cops

The law is not on your sidr