The 80's were great with electro, synthpop, new wave all paving the way for house and techno to come. The 90's were the peak for electronic music, with genres such as ambient house, jungle, acid techno, breaks, IDM and many more emerging and taking the world by storm. 70% of classic electronic music albums come from the 90's. The 00's were decent as well. Minimal techno, glitch, electro-clash, even DnB all had to say something for themselves. And what does the 2010's have? Vaporwave, hypnagogic pop, PC Music. Slowed-down 80's music, chipmunk eurodance and MIDI diarrhea are considered genius and the best to come from the decade, even though they would've been considered a joke had they been released in the 90's or early 00's.
Am I missing something? What the actual fuck is happening here.
Pretty much every music genre is stagnating right now. Worst timeline.
Liam Roberts
My apologies for not succumbing to the hivemind and dickriding Arca, OPN, James Ferrari, Danny Blunt and whatever other hackist bullshit this board loves to circlejerk over, user.
Jason Cox
what is autechre you dumb fucker
Henry James
a 90's group
Xavier Fisher
One band
Whose best material was released in the 90s.
Logan Long
>Only listen to 3 artists >Wtf the 2010s are shit
I regret even giving you a (you)
Charles Campbell
>my apologies for not liking modern music and being the electronic equivalent of a dadrocker
Ryan King
you're retarded, their 2010's work is vastly different compared to their earlier releases
Luke Richardson
Listen to Neon Indian if you want to hear someone fucking around on modular synths and make great music and fuck off
Gabriel Baker
their 2010's work is actually derivative of their late 2000's material
Camden Collins
t. electronic equivalent of poptimist
Dylan King
>Why is 2010's electronic music so fucking shit? millennials and liberals
/thread
Robert Roberts
>OPN >James Ferraro >poptimism this board isn't for you
>OPN >James Ferraro >garbage music for people too afraid to explore good music simply because it's old and unfashionable pick 3
Hunter Parker
Much like the 90's were a callback to 60's culture, the 2010's are a callback to 80's culture. And as we all know it 80's culture was absolute garbage.
Here's hoping the 2030's are a callback to 00's culture.
Caleb Russell
Why put this much effort into a shitpost?
Logan Kelly
This might shock you but not everything that goes against your opinions is a shitpost user.
Connor Baker
Great rec user, Rolando Simmons is talented as fuck, can't wait to see what he has planned for 2017 . There's a lot of other up and coming talent out there as well, it's just harder to find not because there's a lack of good music as much as it is the sheer abundance of music you have to sift through with everybody on SC and BC to find whatever it is that resonates with you.
Michael Nguyen
>Missing the point entirely
It's not that OPs opinion is shit because of his taste, his opinion is shit because it's based on 3 fucking albums he's listened to.
Nathan Sullivan
Raime, Jam City, Demdike Stare. Don't DJ, Foodman, Emptyset, Lakker, Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith, Lee Gamble, Heurco S, Motion Graphics, Rashad Becker, Helm, Bruce, Heatsick, Gunnar Haslam are some people you should check out
Aaron Clark
sad that you got stuck in the past lmao
Juan Phillips
> 00' > good DnB How shitty are your tastes user?
Grayson Bailey
music that is not connected to the pop genre is rarely appreciated the most during its own time.
I theorize a few years from now people will look back more fondly on the 2010s
feel free to disagree
Ian Brown
>plebian 80s >contrarian 00s >patrician 60s
Aaron White
I love most of these artists but I don't think people like Heatsick are ever going to make it bigger than they already are.
>What does Warp Records mean to you these days? (laughing). Not a lot. The difference between them and any other record company is getting smaller and smaller which is why I’m not going to release any more records on Warp. One single maybe but I doubt it. I have to stop them all the time. I did a promo for the album and they wanted to release it as a single. If’ve got to constantly make sure that they don’t push me too far.
>Why do you release your new double album „Drukqs“ on Warp? Eh, that’s quite a good question. I’m sort of contractually obliged to release with them. I’ve got no problem with them at all, so it’s not a big deal. At the same time me and Squarepusher are starting up our own label. I released those acid mixes („2 Remixes by AFX“, MEN1). That’s our first release.
>Why do you want another label? Mainly because Tom’s got a real problem being on a label where there’s other artists he hates. He hates everything on Warp. He doesn’t like Autechre, he doesn’t like, mmh, I don’t know. He likes the old things. „LFO“ is probably the last record he liked (laughs). He doesn’t like to carry everyone along. I don’t mind being on a label where there’s shit people. I don’t like that music on Warp either. And I’m aware that they benefit from what you do. They’re like „Oh, we’re on Warp“ and people take notice of that and then they buy their records and stuff. But it doesn’t bother me as much as Tom. But because he’s a good mate I understand what he’s saying. So we prefer to do it ourselves because it’s more pure. If it was up to me „Drukqs“ would be on Rephlex but I contractually have to give it to Warp.
Isaac Long
1910=electricity started 1920-1950=classic electricity 1960-1970=golden age of electro for old machines 1980=perfect age for robot rebels 1990=improved good electro and also the year for techno and nightcore 2000=electro is still good and vaporwave songs start to appear 2001-2006=electricity is changing 2007=electricity music but good and relaxing like darude sandstorm 2008=some crappy electro is starting to appear 2009=crappy electro is spreading 2010=you gotta be kidding me this isnt music vaporwave 2011=R.I.P. electricity goodbye,,,
Jordan Bell
i mean thats kind of just whats popular right now or what has a scene to draw attention to it. the most forward thinking electronic music that came out in 2016 probably wont gain popularity until like 2018 or 19
James Phillips
If only more people on Sup Forums knew of PAN Records.
Michael Williams
lmao
Thomas Flores
>threading your own comment that consists of a shitty one-liner that doesn't say anything at all
Wew lad
Wyatt Robinson
Liberal millennial detected.
Grayson Jenkins
lole
Chase Allen
Listening to new music that is inspired by old music and is in itself unfashionable, how high are you?
Brody Brooks
>80s culture was absolute garbage >"but hey, let's have a 2000s callback, a decade that already was a callback in itself"
Brilliant
Jackson Rivera
Embarrassing
John Miller
Embarrassing.
Caleb Green
Every decade is a callback to a previous decade. That's why everything is getting so shit like, you can only copy something so many times until it falls apart.
Ethan Ramirez
This. I'll make a list of other good labels that come to my mind, some probably more well-known than other:
Halcyon Veil Classical Trax Symbols Planet Mu Infinite Machine Staycore The Astral Plane (!!) TAR (Tessier-Ashpool Recs.) Orange Milk Records (!!) Apothecary Compositions Quantum Natives Night Slugs Fade to Mind
Samuel James
This album alone is better than anything that came out in the 00s.
Hunter Perry
I'd add
Blackest Ever Black Diagonal Delsin Tri Angle Modern Love Stroboscopic Artefacts Text Records The Trilogy Tapes Subtext
Charles Bailey
90's was a callback to the 70's. The 80's callback was in the 00's. The 2010's are a shitty 90's callback.
Jordan Carter
all the shit from PAN sounds the same: glitchy sounds tangentially related to Arca. not worth anyone's time
Carson Adams
The 00's were all about minimalism you retard. The 10's are about """satirical""" consumerism aka the 80's.
Henry Cruz
? it's just jungle
Grayson Adams
>Exai was released in the 90s what the fuck
Robert Peterson
this
Aiden Evans
but it doesn't though, it's a pretty eclectic label
here's one of my fav PAN releases thats nothing like that
Benjamin Evans
Did you even live through the 00's you child? You don't remember the revival of 80's fashion and obnoxious neon? Pop-punk bands "ironically" covering hairmetal? etc
Lucas Bell
n
Gavin Harris
Those started to pop-up by the end of the decade, ironically enough.
Way up until 2006-2007 at least the 00's were all about TDR-esque futuistic minimalism, a style itself from the late 90's.
Grayson Foster
Nice.
The 2010s have tons of good albums actually, and quality movements like outsider house and UK Bass and whatnot. I honestly believe Vaporwave, PC Music and other post-internet jank will fall in the same trashbin that other overhyped shitty movements of the past did, like 00's gimmicky IDM/breakcore and 90's derivative big beat and progressive trance.
Juan Myers
trendsetters are moving away from the dancefloor, so what we get is either super edgy, heady, aleatoric culture-devouring-itself stuff (*snores*) or straight EDM garbage
Christopher Gray
Pic related is great
Alexander Kelly
Derivative big beat and progressive trance are still more preferable to vaporwave and pc music though.
David Russell
I don't know what he was thinking with that 5 minute intro track that just loops over and over again. The textures are top-notch I like how he takes these typical chiptuney sounds and make them sound placid and sinister. Also I freaking love that yoshi hatching sound.
Dominic Lee
Got too much wax in your ears, or hearing problems? Because this is objectively wrong
Grayson Scott
I miss breakbeats
John Barnes
You all should check out Abyss X - Nüshu
Jack Ward
>keeping it up this long
Brayden Cooper
Why don't you guys like PC music?
Robert Reyes
Uh, I actually didn't know half of that list. Are they all in a similar vein as the ones I posted?
Evan Torres
the list i replied two covered a lot of different stuff so i did to, Blackest Ever Black and Modern Love (Andy Scotts label) have a lot of moody dark stuff, Stroboscopic Artefacts and Subtext are labels on the deeper end of (dub) techno, Diagonal is Powell's label and releases loads of crazy synthy EBM type stuff
Aiden Jackson
>he thinks 10s pop EDM garbage is all that's been produced
Joseph Wood
Haven't got around to it yet, but it's on my list.
I thought some of it was cool at first, like EasyFun and Danny L Harle. It just got dated really quickly, and to be honest, I think there came way more interesting music out of the whole cultural obsession with accelerationism, than the alienating pop pastiche of PC Music.
Gavin Peterson
Thanks, will check them out!
Kayden Cook
here is what actual 2010s bleeps and bloops sounds like, maybe you should diversify your listening past internet memes
i dont like people that have no taste yet think they do
Sebastian Harris
>i miss breakbeats
here
Ian Hall
im not saying those are 5 life changing bits of music its just the ones that sprang to mind
Nolan Kelly
(not true, btw)
Chase Fisher
What is Exai What is Elseq
Joseph Flores
Saw this in a /bleep/ thread the other day fucking love it. Been listening to all of their music lately.
Grayson Thompson
not their best material
Luke Harris
Avery is a hack that relies on ghost producers
Isaac Cruz
Not him but beyond Confield yeah it is.
Isaiah Perry
how pleb are you
Noah Long
I think OP just made a sneaky rec thread and you all fell for it.
Wyatt Evans
Autechre - elseq1-5 Jam City - Classical Curves Actress - RIP Andy Stott - Luxury Problems Aphex Twin - Syro The Caretaker - An Empty Bliss Beyond This World Clams Casino - Rainforest Dean Blunt - Black Metal Demdike Stare - Liberation Through Hearing DJ Rashad - Double Cup (yeah I know the sound originated in the 90s but was never this rhythmic) Emptyset - Demiurge James Holden - The Inheritors The Knife - Shaking The Habitual Kuedo - Severant Laurel Halo - Quarantine Machinedrum - Rooms Mala - Mala In Cuba Murmuure - s/t Oneohtrix Point Never - Garden Of Delete Pita - Get In Prurient - Frozen Niagara Falls Shackleton - Music for the quiet Hour/Drawbar Organ EPs Terrence Dixon - From The Far Future Pt. 2 Third Eye FOundation - The Dark Gesloten Cirkel's stuff in general
There, some stuff that's kinda different from the usual all released in the 2010s
Carson White
>quality movements like outsider house and UK Bass and whatnot In contrast to the current experimental club scene headed up by artists such as Lotic, Ziúr and the NAAFI collective, lo-fi producers are almost exclusively white and male. It would be easy to say that these artists will be judged on the quality of the music and not their names, but while the music is arguably better than you’d get from the average Ibiza tech-house DJ, the lo-fi scene is currently still a microcosm of the diversity issues that affect house and techno as a whole.
Luke Morgan
>Oneohtrix Point Never - Garden Of Delete
his worst album
Alexander Turner
Literally tied for his best.
Carson Fisher
one third of those is trash and the other third is by artists from the 90's and 00's
Luis Martinez
I love the 90s too but half of jungle and DNB was just amen breaks shoved through a sampler on 50% of "classic" tracks, which wouldnt get you 100 soundcloud followers in 2017
the technology has increased so much that almost nothing is impressive anymore.
Jonathan Cook
Nah it's his best. It just attacks the listener with a very large variety of sounds, rhythms and melodies within a short amount of time, so it takes a lot of time to digest it.
Give us some names. Not to mention that either way the topic's about newer stuff being done in the 2010s, and I posted that.
Brayden Hall
these here
also add these labels: Token Horizontal Lobster Theremin 100% silk Avian Norther Electronics Opal Tapes (a lot of shit here though along with the good)
Literally have a starter lists here of several entire labels who generally put out more good music than whatever bullshit OP reamed from Pitchfork best of lists that seemed to make up the entirety of OP's music knowledge
Liam Sullivan
The technology has increased but the effort has diminished, as evidenced by vaporwave.
Elijah Hernandez
gesloten cirkel, shackleton and maybe demdike stare are the only salvageable artists ffs
Gavin Hernandez
Garden of Delete is precisely the type of memetronica OP is having a grudge against.
Ryder Morris
Just shut up, guys. Electronic has always been shit. Very few artists knew how to use electronic music the right way
Anthony Wood
outsider house is fucking shit delroy edwards killed that genre long ago. fuck off
Colton Bailey
i think making the really weird vaporwave stuff is a lot more difficult than making this "classic" breakbeat track, which is literally just 4 chords from a Korg M1, a non-chopped Amen Break, and a sample of a dolphin
the problem is that most of the weird vaporwave shit is boring and isn't designed to be catchy / danceable
Something like Vaperror's Acid Arcadia or any of Machine Girl's stuff has a lot more effort put into it than 90s dance tracks, by far.
ALSO PIC FUCKING RELATED, its still possible to make really cool catchy creative shit, but almost no one does it.
Christian Anderson
is this p4k
Anthony Foster
excellent bait, it deserves a (You)
Wyatt Foster
I have yet to read an strong arguemnt on why people hate pic related. its always some buzzword attack like "hack". classic example if its anything out of their comfort zone its "bait" or "p4k" not logical arguments being made.