Is Sister Ray the first Heavy Metal song?
Or at least, Porto-Metal.
Is Sister Ray the first Heavy Metal song?
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fuck off metal baby
definitely Porto-Metal
Wow never heard of this ! Thanks OP ! Very obscure ! :)
It's a me, Mario!
I don't know if it's Porto metal but at the very least it was extremely influential on post outhouse
>noise=metal
Excuse me what are you trying to prove
obviously Porto-Metal
Once again the Velvet Underground were beaten by the Beatles, who introduced the deliberate use of feedback to rock music in 1964
obviously Porto-Metal
>this
But not Heavy Metal.
It was porto metal
Metal songs had already been made by then, sorry m8...The Velvets were anything but metal anyway, that's noise rock...metal is one of the very few genres of music they had little influence on (mainly because it was a garbage subgenre for a very long time until the late 80's when death/doom/sludge and the like took off which are more in like with the Velvets)
Any good metal bands from Portugal?
no, syster ray actually sounds good.
if it sounded atrocious, then yes.
>Helter Skelter what's that?
beatles fanboys are so insecure
this seems accurate
At least we are musically intelligent
>Yfw Sister Ray came out before Helter Skelter.
>yfw Helter Skelter sounds like proto-metal but Sister ray doesn't
That's not rock music, it's surf
>This came out 14 days before White Light/White Heat
Works for me
neither of them sound like "proto metal"
The obvious predecessors to metal are bands like Led Zeppelin, Blue Cheer, Deep Purple, and The Who, not The Beatles or TVU.
looool
Incorrect.
The established musical parameters of the genre are all present in Helter Skleter
Just being realistic. It's a lot more likely that the early metal bands got their inspiration from various "hard rock" or heavier versions of psychedelic rock than from a single Beatles song (which I still don't believe sounds like a "proto-metal" song, but whatever). There are certainly genres that you can give credit to the Beatles for influencing but I don't think there's a great case to be made for their impact on metal.
Except Ozzy Osborn was a Beatles obsessive
surf is a subgenre of rock
its fair to differentiate it from the blues/R&B-based rock that was popular at the time but it's absolutely still rock
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You zealot Beatles fans are retarded. Link Wray and other rock artists were using feedback before The Beatles.
This is the stupidest thing I've read on here all day. It's called surf ROCK.
surf =/= rock
Try again.
It's called surf ROCK. It's a rock n roll subgenre. Stop posting.
>It's called surf ROCK
No, we are discussing surf, not surf rock.
Try again.
Helter Skelter
Surf music is a subgenre of rock music associated with surf culture, particularly as found in Southern California. It was especially popular from 1962 to 1964 in two major forms.[11]
its proto punk
this is like saying that psychedelic rock isn't rock, it's psychedelia. makes no sense
>surf culture, particularly as found in Southern California
Not what we are discussing, is it? The Beatles were not a Surf band
psychedelic rock =/= psychedelia so you are not making much sense
>psychedelic rock =/= psychedelia
Okay let me clarify
psychedelic rock is part of a larger culture called "psychedelia"
surf rock is part of a larger culture called "surf culture"
both are still subgenres of rock music, the fact that they are influenced by other subcultures does not exclude them from the rock n roll genre
i mean most critics that I know of would classify Link Wray and Dick Dale as rock music so this isn't some controversial point I'm arguing.
OK I admit I am pretending to be retarded
fair enough
Obviously Porto-Metal, a lot of the soloing uses a very Portuguese scale.
Just wondering if I could successfully defend the feedback thing. I can't but I do stand by Helter Skelter as proto-metal
little walter was the first artist to use feedback