Who's Sup Forums seriously voting for?

Who's Sup Forums seriously voting for?

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Libertarian Gary Johnson

He'll lose once he has to debate Hillary.

Libertarians and the Tea Party need to team up so that they can be a super-conglomerate of retards that think corporations will "police themselves" and that trickle down economics works.

Jill Stein

Honestly economic authoritarians have to be the most history-blind people on earth. Keep telling yourself that Sweden is socialist and that foreign intervention doesn't work but domestic intervention does for some reason. Maybe the next utopia of command economics won't work out like Venezuela, Romania, Cuba, and so on and so on

I don't like scary stories.

Republican Donald Trump. He's basically our only hope of not getting one up the ass at this moment.

go to bed kid

Lol I'm not anywhere near pro-socialist. Trickle-down economics is mathematically impossible since the excel-error fiasco, and no corporations have ever "policed themselves" like they're all magically supposed to.

>Libertarians and the Tea Party need to team up so that they can be a super-conglomerate of retards that think corporations will "police themselves" and that trickle down economics works.

Liberals and Neocons need to team up they can be a super-conglomerate of retards that think the government doesn't work for those fucking corporations.......Oh, wait, they already did.

Seriously fucktard tell me more about how the political parties that gave the banking industry and $800 BILLION bailout TWICE! are protecting you from the mean corporations.

she's the best choice unless Joe Lieberman's old ass runs as independent again0

>He'll lose once he has to debate Hillary.

I'm excited to see the debate because it's going to be an absolute shitshow that Hillary won't be able to recover from

Someone with sense, finally

this is what economic illiteracy looks like, kids


it looks


like a retard

Harambe

I'm voting for Trump to accelerate a better Democratic candidate in 2020. If we allow Hillary to win, the same moderate business bullshit will keep empowering the Democrats.

How do you figure?

>my opinion:
Everyone knows that both Donald and Hillary are liars... and everyone knows that only one of them is even remotely qualified to handle the position of POTUS. Besides, Trump has already pissed off our second largest trading partner.

Voting for Trump is only going to be a meme for a little bit longer, and pretending it isnt a meme will only outlive the former by a few extra weeks.

Yeah. Trump can debate. I'll be surprised if Hillary can get through the debates.

unless he doesnt like the girl doing the debate so he pussies out, takes his ball and goes home

I can see him doing that when supposed to hold talks with russia and china

Trump is still better than Clinton.

Trump

>mfw a Sanders supporter tries to economics

>Leaving America going to Rapistan to kill myself

All the candidates are cancer.

Trump is minor cancer.

Hillary is pure cancer.

When he leads the world'slargest economy and has the best funded military I don't think it will go against him. Trump might be an asshole, but I don't see him losing.

Just because Donald Trump gets a few zingers doesnt mean he will actually win. It will only become more and more evident how unqualified he is to do anything other than be a reality show personality.
>"I went to Ivy league schools... I know words, I have the best words"

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Sure

Not a Sanders supporter

Trump is a much better meme than Hillary.

So as long as he keeps trending and gets me likes and retweet, he gets my vote

So... wait, different user here but... are you guys trying to make the case that trickle down economics work? Please... elaborate for us.

If you think shillary is qualified to be president you should off yourself. You obviously don't know jack shit about her or the positions she's fucked up on.

Businesses use more money to invest in expansion of business which creates jobs

This user speaks the truth.

They'll just call you a retard, so don't bother. I didn't even insult Republicans as a whole, just the Tea Party faction and they're getting all butthurt over their austerity shit that violates the laws of math.ns need to find an example of un

Sieg fucking Heil

>Osama bin laden for president

Octogender attack helicopter-kin here.

I am. He's not as bad as Killery.

still going to write in Bernie

I see, so you think that spending 8% of our current annual budget (more than we spend on infrastructure and education combined) on the interest payments for our national debt is good policy.

And I bet you think all that money our government spends is all going to help the working man too ehh dingus?

Here's a question for you, if the government really wanted to help the working man, why not just write them a fucking check instead of fucking around with all the bureaucracy and corporate subsidies?

youtube.com/watch?v=xtpgkX588nM

>If you think Shrump is qualified to be president you should off yourself

>You obviously don't know jack shit about her or the positions she's fucked up on

Nobody who likes her does.
Nobody who voted for Obama knew anything about him either.

Nice unsourced infographic. Are we going to claim Hillary magically gets seizures now despite it not being a problem when she has been in front of flashing lights for 40 years?

Hillary Clitoris want to take away 'muh guns!?

Ain't she gettin away with that down here in Texas, 'm I right?

'murica fuck yeah

Jesus B is fucking retarded.

Hillary-im not sure whyd youd even think it's a good choice. If she wasn't Hillary shed be jailed multiple times over

Gary Johnson- dudes not even a libertarian. A vote for him or Jill stein is just throwing your vote away, might as well stay home.

Trump has the best policies. Most fit out of the bunch. Truly cares about this country. Will make America greater than ever before.

The choice couldn't be much more clear.

this is the very definition of hypocrite

Saying that and supporting Trump at the same time. Holy fuck.

This response (trolling I presume?) encompasses basically everything that anyone over 18 knows about Trump and his "policies". There is no reasoning, no math, no statistics, no history, no logic... just a vague, subjective, blanket statement that is offers no insight, but which is able to rile up a handful of retards who will inevitably parrot the snippet back and forth for days, until they have to defend their preferred Presidential candidate for:
>saying he will build an expensive, useless project that will piss off our second largest trading partner
>Flip-flopping more than his opponent and somehow managing to maintain the notion in his head that he is a straight shooter and honest
>Getting sued for fraud
>Claiming he will extort money from small businesses
>Advocating war crimes
>Arguing that he would use nuclear bombs on Europe
>Arguing war with the most key nation in US-Eastern relations who is currently our ONLY ally in the region
>Trying to fuck his daughter

It does work to a degree. I'm not claiming it's the best way to run things, mind you, just that it works.

"Trickle down economics doesn't work" is false, you've just heard that phrase so much that you believe it to be true. It's trivially provable that money would flow from people who have it to people that don't. I give the left credit, they've parroted that phrase so much that people believe it, which is a victory for them.

As far as how well it works, it's better than the trickle up poverty of Socialism, but doesn't offer the breadth of opportunity of capitalism. inb4 "capitalism doesn't provide opportunity", yes it does, as long as you're willing to work.

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lol

You're dodging the link I posted where the entire economic basis of the Tea Party was brutally invalidated.

I didn't say what was going on now was "good" or that I liked it. All I did was say that the libertarians and the Tea Party need to team up in fantasy land so that the rest of the world can be adults.

Right, right, except that history and statistics and facts have proven time and time and time and fucking time again, that the vast majority of profits that businesses receive do not go towards reinvestment when amortized across an economy. Im guessing you just forgot that?

None of those are true. But decent attempt ctr

peri.umass.edu/236/hash/31e2ff374b6377b2ddec04deaa6388b1/publication/566/

It doesn't work. It's only supporting model was completely invalidated by an Excel error. It is complete garbage. It fails on scales. The end.

Except that's not what they are doing. They are using their millions in tax braks to invest in automation to eliminate jobs.

Ask a CEO anywhere if he'd rather have pay a bunch of people to do a bunch of things or one really tired person doing the things.

The economic basis of the tea party is based in fact and centuries-proven economic theory. You may not like it, but its basis in fact doesn't require your approval. Sorry.

Don't worry, all of the examples of unregulated businesses in South America and China really show the Libertarian ways and that the corporations will definitely self-police for the good of man!

Im not advocating socialism like the Bernie fags here, but trickle-down does NOT work, at least when compared to trickle-up economics (not poverty). History has proven time and time again (see: England and Netherlands debate over interest rates and banking during the 1800s for a rather cut and dry example) that giving money to the wealthy and hoping it trickles down does not have the same positive effect as WELL-INSTITUTED social-welfare programs (like accessible healthcare and affordable loans).

An intelligent person would have written what that fact is in the post....

I added the phrase "Ah tell ya wut" between every other word or so in this. I also pictured it being spoken by my crazy hillbilly uncle who post year old right-wing memes on his FB.

Gary Johnson all the way!

Seriously, Hillary. I voted for her in the primaries against Obama 8 years ago, so i'm not even a 'best of the worst candidates' voter; i actually think she's awesome.

We're fucked either way. I'm going to buy a bunch of popcorn and guns and wait for it all to blow over.

Haha wow... now THAT is some quality trolling. You know school is starting soon? You should get to adjusting your circadian clock. Go read a little bit about shit that Trump has said... people tell me all the time that reading makes you tired... I guarantee it, folks.

Capitalism needs some regulation. Nobody sane will argue that. But well-regulated Capitalism is by FAR the best wealth generator for the most people that the world has ever seen. And now, of course, we're moving away from that system because loud people want free shit.

I'm not voting but I'd say Trump lol

Yeah no, trump actually has sound plans for the future. Hate to burst your bubble but he's a lot more attentive than Hillary ever could be.

>You're dodging the link I posted where the entire economic basis of the Tea Party was brutally invalidated.

I'm not dodging shit dumb fuck, I'm not reading a fucking 20 page thesis and you knew that I wouldn't when you posted it, so you could say......oh you're dodging the question.

>I didn't say what was going on now was "good" or that I liked it.

So you concede that our crony capitalist government regulated economy doesn't work for the people and yet you conclude that the people who think that government doesn't work are delusional.

We have tens of thousands of regulations, most of which serve lobbyists and corporations and yet you think that people who want to cut down on that regulation are wrong. Do you really think the government doesn't have enough power?

Nope, businesses are in the business of creating profit, and employees are the most expensive part of running a business.

Their goal in expansion is to increase operational efficiency in the generation of revenue.

Yeah, welcome to 'murica. Where we're all too dumb to recognize our own hypocrisy.

>The End

Woah, one graduate paper from the University of Massachusetts at Amherst......well, there it is folks, the end.

No need to discuss economics anymore, socialism works, the government is doing its job and our tens of thousands of regulations all serve the working class and we must have more of them.

I very much enjoyed watching that video. Thank you.

I was assuming you could just read the abstract and conclusions in 30 seconds like a normal sophmore in college should have learned.

I'm not able to concede anything if I didn't say it to begin with. I simply expressed disgust at the Tea Party and Libertarians.

For the final time, stay on course, explain to me how the Tea Party shit that violates the laws of math is acceptable.

>sound
Cute... Which of his plans sounded "sound" to you? Just curious... no pressure ;)

I think Trump is smarter than he looks. He says what people want to hear. I think Clinton is legitimatly evil. Neither are good options, but I distrust Trump less.

The economic science behind that (on cellphone gonna be brief) is that poor people are 100% liquid. Give a poor person $100 and it goes back into the rest of the economy inside a week, not into his 401k. They spend it a mcdonalds, the liquor store, buying school supllies, whatever. Trickles up instantly. The rich are in the business of getting richer, poor are in the business of redistributing wealth.

Yeah, Milton Friedman's negative income tax is good shit.

I've yet to meet a leftist who could explain why government spending is better than just cutting the poor a check.

Donald J. Trump

Trump.

I'm seriously voting for Hillary

trump

>tfw we might have the first president who told America to check its privledge

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Trump

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I loved both his idea and the discussion in general. A lot of people think everyone should have a guaranteed income of X. But if you don't implement it the way Milton suggests you're only giving low income people incentive to not work. It's like suggesting buying every homeless person a house. I'd become homeless in an instant if that were the policy.

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Exactly my point tho... do you even conspicuous consumption?

Firms only produce when there is demand. There is only demand when money is being spent on goods. What part of this is not obvious?

When the rich get money, it accumulates like a blood clot, and does not get spent or reinvested into the economy. The decrease in the overall money supply means less investing overall, which means less jobs, which means less spending which means etc.

I refuse to take part in this fucking circus. Fuck this country.

I'll be surprised if HIllary manages to walk up to the stage.

>we arent privileged?
Know how when you are driving and you see the police lights come on behind you, and you get nervous and feel like shit because you know you are getting a ticket and your whole day is fucked up? Imagine if cops had been shooting people that looked just like you and they were getting away with it, and there was nothing you could do to stop it? Try laying on your back and putting your hands in the air...

Better yet... apply for a job anywhere, and do your very best to pretend your white employer isnt as racist as you are...
>gg

Hillary Clinton is old school politics, backed by old school politics, and is just same-old same-old old school politics.
Donald Trump is not a politician, he is THE POSTERBOY of corrupt good old boys corporate greed, he lies, and he's a hypocrite.
Having voted in the previous 5 presidential elections, and reviewed most the history of the 20th century, these two presidential candidates are the WORST that have been offered to any US voter still alive.
I would have to vote Trump though, because Clinton will be boring, Trump will be 4 years of hilarious tragedy.

>cuck detected

>I was assuming you could just read the abstract and conclusions in 30 seconds like a normal sophmore in college should have learned.

So I should read the abstract and just assume that its correct? Even a college sophmore shouldn't be that stupid.

>I'm not able to concede anything if I didn't say it to begin with. I simply expressed disgust at the Tea Party and Libertarians.

Yeah, you don't say much do you smart ass? You say they're wrong, don't explain why, don't offer an alternative and paste down a link to random obscure economic essays as indisputable proof.

>For the final time, stay on course, explain to me how the Tea Party shit that violates the laws of math is acceptable.

Violates the laws of math?

The fucking paper you cited only claims that governments with over 90% ratio of debt to GDP can get 2.2% growth instead of 0.1% as concluded by another paper that I've never read. That's hardly a glowing endorsement of government debt and considering how much government debt has been forgiven since WWII (the fucking Marshall plan) I'd say the data on spending cash that you don't fucking have might be a tad deceptive.

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>Not participating in the ascension of memes from the internet into sentient beings that immediately assimilate and take over human politics.

youtube.com/watch?v=k61I1srYHW0

lol, yup the rims makers may hire 100 blue collar workers to make 1,000 blinged out dubs a day, which are then bought by 400 poor people a day. Those 400 poor people pay the paychecks of the 100 rims makers, not the guy who owns the company making the dubs.

The whole Trump campaign is based on an unsustainable model, like his politics. Im psyched to see him come debate time... are you?

Ok so let me get this straight, I can vote for a politician who will sell out my country and interests to billionaires, or I can just vote directly for said billionaires.
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It does both... but which model causes more accumulation of wealth at the top? Giving money to the rich, or giving money to the spenders? The increased demand is reason enough to invest more to produce more.

Not even close to literal definition of hypocrite. Learn to dictionary.

That's actually the best description I've seen. The main difference is with Clinton half the billionaires will be in other countries.

Hillary is so fking hot

She cheats and is a lair and yes he has had people killed. Funny how someone is killed in mugging but nothing is taken and they are shot in the back.