23yo virgin here...

23yo virgin here, starting to think about getting laid "not really put any effort into getting laid all my life" i have no game and couldn't pick a girl up if my life depended on it. Any advice i can use ?

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Fuck some escorts. You'll no longer feel the pressure of being a virgin, you'll stop putting the pussy on a pedestal once you get some experience, you'll gain confidence with women in normal social settings, and you'll have fun fucking random whores.

Should have pointed out im pretty poor...well i have a flat and motorbike so not that poor but i would also never fuck a hooker.

You're screwed then, no pun intended.

Hence why in the last 23 years i have never been in a relationship, i have not been putting relationships or sex off its just i never get any chances...i could be rich and would still never get laid.

You just have to have funny pick up lines, cheesy, and not to pussy out. The 2 things girls will notice about you is that you are funny and that you have balls, that's all. You can be an ugly bastard like me and you can still get many pussy.

The two things i do have going for me are those two things....yet they haven't worked for me.

The best game to develop is through working on yourself to become successful. Spend your early and mid 20's on a career and make money. You can get the perfectly decent chick when you can offer what they want - house, kid, dog and 2 cars.
>relax, it's just sex

Try soon to be 29yr old virgin, come at me bro, I'm approaching wizard status! Long story short, fat kid all my life now I'm fit but still got the fat kid mentality. 0 self esteem. I work in family business and work for free, FREE! I just get some money for school and don't care about anything except work and school. I don't see where in my life a girl would fit in. Pussy on a pedestal? Yes, sole motivation to get better in life. Otherwise I'd have no motivation .

Also op, try hitting the clubs, drunk chicks are the easiest. Trust me fam, they will hit on you.

Never had a job and still don't know what i want to do with my life, living on benefits atm on 1k a month, have 0 friends and no connections to get me out in the world..so things a kinda stacked against me, i have tried in the past hook up sites ect but nothing ever works.

clubs arnt my strong point, last time i went to one a few years back i fell asleep in one of the booths.

Except then they're wanting someone to mooch off. I want someone who also has most of that herself as well but no kids. She must be my equal

Like wise a girl with a kid is an insta no go.

Go for a call-girl first dude and tell her the situation.

You'll get it out of the way, she'll teach a couple things, then you'll be able to relax and hunt on your own.

No thanks, like seriously people who fuck prostitutes to me are some of the lowest people out there...don't know why but thats my mind set on it.

Pristitutes are cheating, u didn't earn it on ur own. That cunt would fucked a corpse for money. Catch ur own fish

Thrill of the hunt, not that my hunt ever goes well

That seems to be a bit of a strong opinion without some sort of reason.

I've had sex for free with girls whose last names I don't know and really didn't want to talk to after.

As for call girls, I've had some great relationships, even aside from the business aspects.

Not to go all arm-chair-psychologist on you, but it sounds a bit like a hang-up.

>Never had a job
>things a kinda stacked against me
get a job dude, you're 23

Clearly you're seeing the wrong call girls if they fuck anyone.

I'm with you about the thrill of the hunt, but sometimes that's secondary.

I don't know, i feel its just a bit of a pathetic way to fuck someone its almost like cheating, anyone can pay for sex but i feel that unless the girl i paid for sex was well worth it then whats the point in wasting money.

I'm stuck with the mind set that i won't work unless the job im doing makes me happy...unfortunately very little in life makes me happy and even thinking about wasting my life away working isnt something i want to ever do.

It's really not that simple.

When I was 16 I fucked a 22 year old married women on the floor of a dirty mobile home, it a trailer park, with a bunch of passed out people around.

Then you said "thanks" and left.

Sure it was fun, and yeah, I felt like the man, but I'd hate to have ever been seen in public with her.

I can't say the same for some call-girls. The good ones are presentable, charming, and good with people.

>very little in life makes me happy
try a hard day's work, you will be happy to get home

It just seems like an embarising thing to do...like people would think "wow you're so shitty at picking girls up you have to pay for sex" also i live in a 97.7% white county in southern England where hookers are very hard to come by, i wouldn't even know where to start to find one.

I work in a motorbike garage, but only helping a friend with work i dont get paid i do it as a mate, yeah its pretty fun and we often get high at the end of the day but i have been unemployed for 23 years and living of the dole and tbh besides what you might think im as free as a bird, i can do anything i want when i want go anywhere at anytime...why would i give that up to work in a shitty job "i have shit grades so getting a good job isnt a high chance for me"

Dunno if you are still here op but best advice I've ever gotten was from 40yo virgin. Don't put the pussy on the pedestal.
I have faith in you

I never have mate hence why im only just thinking about getting laid, im just getting a bit tired of never getting any action from women. I have never really ever had interest from girls..shit i dont even get looked at by them often im not that bad a looking guy either and more built fat then built but i have nothing going for me.

If you're worried about that, you don't have to tell anyone.

Better still, if that's where you are I'd skip the locals (you'd need to be in London for quality, and you'll pay a lot).

On the bright side, make like the stag-dos and head over to Tallinn, Estonia for the weekend.

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buddy i often don't even have enough money to feed my self come the end of the week, i cant afford to fuck anyone or go to fucking estonia, unless you can find a good hooker for £20 i aint paying for one.

Doesnt matter if u live in a white yelloa brown country theres always hookers
Here r some tip to find one near u
1. Type in google escort +ur city(100℅ succ rate, safe, from the confort of ur cave)
2. Little harder, try to search for poor areas (risky)

>don't even have enough money to feed my self
then become a male escort!

What the fuck is this shit?

Hum i am 8" so maybe i might do well.
this is trying to convince a fussy low life to pay for sex.

Gotcha.

On the other hand, there are plenty of flat-fucking-broke dudes that not only get laid, but manage to get women to pay for them.

Follow the advice of the "don't put pussy on a pedestal" dude, cultivate an irritated/mysterious look, and delevop a disdainful persona that says: "I can't be arse to work for stupid shit for no money. I've got a plan and if you don't like it go fuck yourself."

You wouldn't be the first guy to make this work.

Option 1
1. post your pic on and get yourself rated
2. aim for women who have a lower rating than you

Option 2
1. go to the gym every day
2. get cosmetic surgery
3. hangout at bars

Option 3
1. find yourself a woman of the night


Personally, I would go with option 3.

uhhh...i hate to say it but that is pretty much me now.

Im not sure i want to fuck a vampire.

So you'll be fine then.

Just get youself in front of more women.

If you're 23, stick to the lowest locally legal or go up 10 years.

That's not to say you can't stay within your group, but the other two will be easier.

16 is the age of consent in my country, i would bang a milf in a heart beat if they're hot enough.

Just be witty. Bitches love wit.
If that doesn't work talk to bill Cosby.
Seriously tho I dated a guess jeans super model due to timing and confidence. I'm not ugly but she was way out of my league.

So you're golden:

Find a young little hottie with little experience, a lot of enthusiasm, and hates her dad or a jaded housewife mad that her husband is fucking his PA.

Not bad really.

dude i fucking wish...i would do anything to slam the shit out of a 16-19 yo

You've been given the basics of the playbook mate.

The rest is up to you.

Again, you wouldn't be the first (whatever the things you worry about are).

well wish my luck as i crash and burn

Good luck mate.

Don't worry when that does (it will...happens to everyone).

Remember: it's a numbers game.

Great, im useless at maths

Is picking up chubby girls at a diet plan meeting a good idea to practice game/quick lay?

i hate fat chicks.

Which do you hate more being a virgin or a complete lack of self dicipline?

would rather be a virgin then fuck a fat girl that for sure.

op im 22 and have no "game" whatsoever but still lay girls at my college and even just girls at the supermarket/pharmacy/around.

the absolute #1 key is this:

HAVE FUN.

That's it. Do fun shit that you like (not just smoking weed thats boring). Have a sort of a positive, fun attitude. Even if you're depressed (which i am), it doesnt mean you can't still laugh at the world. Because frankly, its fucking absurd and needs to be laughed at. Master a certain smile and train the ability to pull that smile out whenever you need it even if you don't feel all smiley.

Once youve got this down, you can walk up to a woman and just talk to them about anything. or even compliment them on something, and It'll just come off as a nice dude making small talk. Example, i was skating and this older woman's dog started barking at me. I got off and started talking to her about how dogs hate skateboards for some reason. She said "oh yeah?" and played along until i walked away. A hotter woman saw me do that and was walking towards me looking straight at me in the eye with a comb in her mouth. Why she had a comb in her mouth isnt important. Whats important is that she had it in her mouth as she made direct eye contact and didnt take it out of her mouth until i passed her.

Another example, i asked this hot girl at the pharmacy for help in finding something. As she was leading me, i complimented the tattoo she had on her back (ie, if im checking out the tattoo on her back chances are im checking out the rest of her too, and she knows this). She smiled and thanked me and continued smiling as i left.

The only thing that girls want is a fun confident dude that isnt afraid to go up and talk to anyone for any reason. You don't *need* to be a happy fun dude. But you do need to fake it in some way (by faking it i mean faking it to yourself, not just to other people). Once youve got that down, girls will be more receptive when you talk to em

Don't reproduce op

Not like i have a choice in that atm

theres no shame in gettign a hooker op. chances are your dad got one when he was around your age. its a historical rite of passage for dudes. its only recently in america and europe that its seen as bad. the indians at my college fuck hookers, yeah. but those hookers are baaad bitches and they spend less money than i do on 2 dates with an average girl. in reality, they're playing it smart.