What martial art(s) actually teach practical self defense? I used to be a mall ninja type and thought krav maga was the shit but after a few years of hearing others opinions I understand that its basically garbage.
I want to cultivate zen in my life and essentially learn something that keeps me fit and healthy, boxing looks fun but I don't associate with that crowd well at all and I'm not looking to fight for competition, but rather spar in the gym on a weekly basis.
I'm 6'4, 195, athleticish build, fuckin white mail.
I would suggest mastering the art of cock fu, but it seems you're already a 17th degree black belt
Zachary Williams
Krav Maga is for jews
Lucas Cruz
I study Jeet Kune Do, Phillipine Martial Arts and Kyusho-Jitsu
The best one for self defense (robery, armed assault, dissarming) is Phillipine Martial Arts Jeet Kune Do is for picking up street fights when you cannot break someone's arm or poke their eye out Kyusho Jitsu is great for taking care of the integrity of the opponent
depends on what you're looking for
Lucas Flores
Personally I would suggest studying Jeet Kune Do (because it's a mix of a few arts) and is very "street practical". I've done that as well as Filipino Kali for a few years.
Ayden Wilson
Aikido
Jayden Scott
Shaolin King Fu
Daniel Scott
this.
Michael Reed
Buy a gun you retard
Xavier Lee
>The best one for self defense (robery, armed assault, dissarming) is Phillipine Martial Arts >Jeet Kune Do is for picking up street fights when you cannot break someone's arm or poke their eye out >Kyusho Jitsu is great for taking care of the integrity of the opponent
Jeremiah Wood
What is he doesn't live in America
Jose Adams
Boxing or muay thai for striking Judo or jujitsu for ground That's it. Everything else is basically memes.
Elijah Johnson
Yeah, except for the fact that all of the best strikers in the history of UFC have a background in TKD, Karate, or Kenpo.
Never officially studied any martial arts myself but i've been in a lot of fights because I lived in a bad neighborhood most of my life. Had to fight multiple opponents without any "rules" almost every day so I picked up random things over the years. So my anser to your question is 'freestyle' or what ever you want to call it.
I'm extremely flexible and fast but big as fuck and bearmode so I usually can surprise most opponents and beat them up fast. However if the fight goes on too long I can lose stamina faster than some little fuck dancing around me like a faggot and it would give him upper hand for a while before I recover.
All in all find what works for you, there is no "lern only this one thing and win" martial art. Some styles work better with different people.
For example some of my friends like Karate, others Petiki-Tirsia Kali or Taekwondo.
Jacob Rodriguez
mma is the only one worth the effort. maybe karate also.
do mma, lrn2 destroy, become human tank
Juan Roberts
Yeah, it's inevitable that most people start with the memes because that's what is immediately available. Take Anderson Silva for example - he did tkd at one point as a kid, but then moved on to do both boxing and muay thai alongside bjj, I think. To find pure traditional martial arts fighters of the sort you're pretending exists you need to look at the early days of UFC where people who only did say, a form of karate were fighting. They invariably got their asses handed to them.
Jacob Long
You really just need to learn how to throw a few hard punches OP. Most of the random shit you'll learn in martial arts classes is a waste of time. Just take up boxing.
Luke Powell
This. user, you are absolutely right.
Wyatt Hernandez
definitely, i agree friend. youre one clever son of a gun ya know that?
Anthony Thomas
This
Michael Price
this 100%
Jackson Price
I fucking agree whole heartily
Jaxon Lee
Can't help but agree!
James Lee
I don't like the idea of running 30 miles a week
Blake Wright
Finally someone gets it. Nice going, user.
Mason Nelson
what a smart guy!
David Fisher
Yes, this guy knows his shit OP
Michael Price
What the fuck is wrong with you you fucking nigger? You lazy piece of shit
Ayden James
C'est genius! I couldn't agree more. I very much an in agreement with you.
Samuel White
Yeah, you need to man the cuck up.
Christopher Morgan
I think I triggered someone with a discount black belt in chop socky
Joshua Rodriguez
Yeah d00d
Robert Myers
this so much
Carson Collins
I uses to practice North Shaolin Kung Fu, the most traditional one, I didn't learn a martial art to actually fight, but it ended up happening.
Almost 16 years into it, I had to drop it out because of an car accident, I almost lost my leg, and I still have knee problem to this day.
If you don't have the time for a real learning go with boxing, I'm not saying boxing isn't hard, it's just faster to learn.
Camden Scott
Wow dude stop answering your own comment
Christian Torres
yeah, this guy gets it
Hudson Howard
Ninjitsu, best jew.
Jace Bennett
>What is he KYS.
Austin Reyes
you're fucking right mate
Brayden Bailey
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BOINC / ROSETTA HOME.
Nicholas White
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Alexander Myers
U dumb amerifag :D
Kayden Gray
/thread
James Edwards
True, just swing at 'em
Henry Ross
I'm going to call you out right now. You sound like the type that isn't going to commit to a real martial art, so I'm going to suggest Judo. Most people want to learn a martial art but don't actually put the time and effort into it. Here's my little explanation :
Judo is the best all around martial art if you're only going to study for 2-3 months. Throwing in a fight is your best defence apart from running.
Next in line would be jiujitsu. The rules of jiujitsu are a little better than judo, however, jiujitsu doesn't teach you throwing until you understand the concepts of ground game. (Which are also super important, but maybe after 2-3 months of learning to stand and throw someone, not all fights start on the ground.)
Next you'd go with boxing. Striking should be a last resort. You're most likely not going to knock someone out if it's your first fight. Most people don't understand how fucking weak their punches are ("Oh but I'm a really strong puncher", lol fight me irl) Maui Thai and Karate are not bad disciplines if you want to really get into it, but boxing and kickboxing are your easiest options if you're wanting to learn quick.
If you actually want to learn to fight against a fighter, it's going to take you 3-5 years at least. If you want to fight some random ufc fan on the street after the bar, learn judo, then jiujitsu, then karate/boxing/maui thai.
Henry Anderson
I second this. Don't register for competition and you can enjoy sparring, muay thaï sparring is the best, you get to fight with you fists, elbows, knees, you can kick wherever you want, block however you want, throw or swipe your opponent.. And the close combat is so much fun! It also teaches great values,would recommend 10/10
Cameron Morales
I completely agree.
Josiah Campbell
samefag
Matthew Rogers
This 100%
Mason Cook
agreed 100%
Austin Morgan
Tae Bo. Nothing better.
Hudson Jackson
There is only one martial art. Tai-Chai
Michael Garcia
totally Sup Forumsro i agree thats what i did and it worked out great
Caleb Clark
i heard wing chung was cool
Michael Robinson
Wing Chun is all about defense.
Carter Sanders
after all this horseshit over all the martial arts against each other and the invention of UFC it has come full circle and someone who is good a boxing and wrestling beats the dog shit out of everyone else. jiu jitsu is ok.
No shit. It's from a country that is completely surrounded by people who want to wipe them off the face of the earth. Can you think of a culture that is better at self-defense?
Benjamin Wood
I seem to remember that Bruce Lee developed a fighting style that was just the bare essentials without any showy moves at all. My cousin, who worshiped Lee, has it's highest belt. Fucked if I can remember what it's called though
Dominic Garcia
Yeah, it's called bullshitjitsu.
Alexander Rogers
Try to find someone who's willing to teach MCMAP to civvies. Look around for Systema too.
Aiden Fisher
Cham Pig Non is a good one
James Brooks
Judo, Hock Hochheim. Seriously. Judo teaches, throws, grapples and a variety of chokes/submissions. Hock Hocheim force necessary focuses on disarming people, using a variety of weapons, improvised or otherwise ad responses in certain situations. You have to stick with it though.
I knew a Hock Hochheim instructor. He has several students, women and men, ho have been in dangerous situations and applied training that saved them.
John Anderson
Jeet Kune Do I believe
Xavier Howard
Shin Ken Goishin Jitsu Ryu is the most versatile martial art
Ayden Roberts
Get a dog Self defense and zen
Nathan Sanders
I train Brazilian jiu-jitsu and most fights goto the ground I think it's pretty useful if combined with some dirty fighting
Henry Clark
judo and boxing...
seriously - no nonsense, widely available and cheaper than your average MMA gym... if you want to get into MMA later then the transition to brazilian ju jitsu and thaiboxing should be fairly striahgforwards
some krav maga lessons might be useful but really what you want it regular practice sparing and grappling with live, fully resisting opponents... judo and boxing offer that
antoher good thing is you're not going to get the shit instructors/Mc dojos you get with other arts - firstly neither are current fads and secondly you have to fight/compete
lastly - specifically to judo, if you've got a professional career and you get into a fight outside a bar or something... not some life or death situation just a drunk idiot... you don't want to risk potential police trouble - you'll look far better in court or in the eyes of the law using judo than throwing punches... forgetting the fact that hitting someone with a pavement is far more effective than hitting with your fists and that dumping someone on their head can do serious damage or even kill them the fact you can stand up and say you didn't even throw a punch and only defended yourself is golden if dealing with a cop after the event.
Blake Richardson
I trained Wing Chun in a "fight" oriented gym, but the lack of actual hard sparring bothered me. I switched to Muay Thai, and then later BJJ which I still do.
In my opinion the easiest way to win a fight is to shoot a decisive doubleleg and just mount them and punch (or grapple, if you know how to). In my experience there is no way krav maga / WC etc will stop a strong double leg. The techniques I learned worked great in practice, but when someone committed wants to take you down they will. Add adrenaline (and or drugs) the chance of stopping it is hard.
Against multiple oponents youre fucked anyway, so why bother training for that?
Jet Kuni Do does not have belt ranking, unless HIS/YOUR teacher decided to do so, which would just go against the philosophy of the jkd itself.
Jordan Adams
Me again, shit I forgot my main point. I wanted to say to OP that you shouldnt think you dont "match " with boxing or MMA crowds. I train at the most serious (some UFC fighters etc) in my town, and people are very polite and respectful. I think it is due to sparring being humbling. At least you should not let that opinion deter you from trying any specific art.
Angel Kelly
Wing Chun.
Zachary Cooper
Screw you buddy I'm being cyber-bullied here - I need a safe space
Easton Gomez
my god...
Henry Perry
>fight oriented Win Chun
Ryder Reed
It is fake humility.
Jason Jones
>Against multiple oponents youre fucked I've trained Wing Chun as well, brother, we had a sparring against 3 opponents/attackers, but, as you mentioned, maybe was the lack of sparring at your gym.
Mason Gray
Muy Thai and judo are great for self defense. Muy Thai has crushing offense and judo will always win against an untrained opponent.
Dominic Perez
yeah all you need is hard punches.
Liam Stewart
GOOD JOB user!
Michael Gomez
Uh, Krav Maga is the Jews' martial art for their military. It's pretty good.
Muay Thai is also pretty popular amongst MMA practitioners, as are Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Karate, and Judo.
Really, though, the thing I think is the most important about any martial art is to worry about how you're moving and adapting to the people around you.
Martial arts teach you a specific way of doing things, which can always be used but may not necessarily be the best.
Btw, Bruce Lee's martial art is called "Jeet Kune Do," meaning "the Way of the Interrupting Fist." Bruce Lee actually abandoned his own brainchild later in life, claiming that it was too limiting.
I think the gist of what can be gained from studying any martial art is a sense of how to move and how much energy and focus you will be granted in a fight. Lots of gyms have you train physically before they start teaching you the art because that's about how you're going to feel in a real "no rules" fight; you're not going to be at your best.
If you want something for zen, try a Chinese art. They're really focused on the mental/spiritual aspect, so they talk about shit like Chi a lot, but if you ignore that bit you'll gain a good zen from it.
More importantly, though, if you're looking to spar occasionally, a kung fu school might let you spar (or they might do slow-form sparring), karate schools like sparring, and I would assume most of the non-Chinese schools would be pretty into sparring in general. BJJ and Judo are all about sparring; it's hard to learn joint locks if you can't ever use them. And Muay Thai encourages sparring, as well, from what I know about it.
Gavin Foster
What He meant with >I trained Wing Chun in a "fight" oriented gym It was not a traditional dojo.
Caleb Fisher
>Sparring three on one >Everyone using the same martial art How does this make any sense - your martial art teaches one person how to take on three, but doesn't teach the skills needed for three people to beat up one?
Hunter Bailey
I've done Tae Kwon Do for years. Quick strong attacks meant to end the fight immediately. It's a lot of fun too. As a side note, although I don't have a belt in it, we practice judo as well at our dojo because when a kick to the face can't happen quickly, you can at least get them on the ground and stomp their face.
Kayden Baker
Yes, judo is the king of martial arts.
Colton Cruz
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Dominic Price
So did we.. And I don't mean to be dick but if you sparred against 3 opponents and came out with the conclusion you would be safe in that scenario, I dont think you learned much.
Benjamin Bennett
It was supposed to represent 3 non-trained attackers. Maybe doesn't makes sense to you, I don't know.
Lincoln Garcia
So three of your classmates would pretend to be retarded? Sounds like a great technique for training man.
Carter Hall
Firearms training.
Juan King
I recommend starting with Wing Chun then strengthening your body with Hung Gar. The important thing is repetition. The point of learning a martial art is to repeat until the movements become reflex. You don't want to be consciously thinking of how you want to attack or defend, you should let your body automatically do that for you through learned reflex.
Camden Fisher
yea user, boxing will be your savior.
Cameron Parker
>Against multiple oponents youre fucked anyway, so why bother training for that?
The United States, because they supply israel with all their weapons.
Thomas Lopez
I've never did that assumption. You just need to be prepared for shit, you know. I've had the chance to go to Iran to see their training of Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu, where basically was 6 on 1, shit was cash.
I don't think you understand, but ok. It's not like attackers on the street knows how to fight as well. They didn't act like chimps, if it's What you are thinking. They just try to grab you, punch you like usually happens in a street fight.