Should college athletes be paid?

Should college athletes be paid?

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Maybe not.
But if they are not, then neither should their coaches be, and they should be less active.

Yes. But not because the sport makes so much money. They should be paid because the NCAA literally obligates then to working 20 hour work weeks no including time spent traveling, watching film, full time spent playing games, etc. It's a job that cuts into academics and doesn't complement it like lab research. They should be paid.

Should anime forum janitors be paid?

Of couse they should
>inb4 muh scholarships

The guy in your pic is paid

I don't think many people think they shouldn't be paid but the problem is legally the schools would end up having to pay a bunch of women's teams and the programs don't generate that much money to begin with that you'd be looking at a fairly minuscule payment to each player

Alternative to this, the NCAA student athlete schedule should be less demanding, but fans and boosters probably wouldn't be OK with a less intense season and teams basically playing one step above intramurals.

Yes.

They should just automatically deduct x money from their college tuition per season

Teams should disband from the NCAA and form Football/Basketball only leagues which retain revenue for themselves and distribute among members. That way they aren't forced to keep Womens Shuffleboarding on life support.

your mom should disband from this dick and you should stop cucking her when im on that shit

Indubitably

yes.

Lets take away their full scholarships, dorms, meal plans per diems and free athletic gear in exchange for paying them minimum wage for practice and games. Lets see how well that goes for them.

So you enjoy watching college sports be crippled by women's life support?

they're paid with a scholarship.

Yea, sure. D1 at least. Most of these athletes are putting 40 hours a week into their sport, on top of class. At least enough per week to eat well.

Seriously. Very few people in society have a better deal than a college football player.

I STILL CAN'T AFFORD DEM RIMS FUCKING WHITEY WE NEED TA EAT DUH EN CEE AY AY KEEPIN US IN CHAINZ

>Literally obligates
It's a consensual commitment the players make. LITERALLY nobody is forcing them to play collegiate sports. It's their responsibility to balance their own schedule, whether that means prioritizing sports, academics, or both.

I'm not opposed to some sort of financial stipend for them but your argument is a very weak case.

idk, they never pay for a single meal or a drink their entire college career, and they get a free education.

and if you're good enough and not a complete thug, some alumni will hook you up with a cushy salesman job

No ofc. Colleges are non profit organizations so student athletes should not make any money.

d1 programs that starve their athletes? this is something that doesn't exist.

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athletes generate hundreds of millions of dollars for tv rights to show games and other business deals such as team gear and other goods. college coaches make about 5 million dollars. why would the athletes get paid minimum wage? are you fucking retarded?

you literally dont know how to apply economics to real life situations. please leave now. you have proven you are shit

For video games and promotional shit yes, otherwise their education and everything else is free so no.

>minimum wage
Except their talent is worth more than that. Otherwise your ass could be out there playing. The fact that kids are scouted and recruited is proof enough they should be paid. The fact that what they are recruited to do does not in any way complement academics and in facts hinders academic performance is further reason to pay them or decrease what's expected out of them.

As I said in an earlier post, college athletics isn't like lab research. Kids are expected to put in 20 hours a week (and that's only what's recorded, really it's more like 30 with travel, meetings, lifting, extended game times, etc.). Getting that much time cut out of college work weeks, usually during hours which could be used for class, studying, or meeting with a professor adds up. There are a lot of dedicated souls that get the work done, but they really should be getting paid for what they do because they aren't able to maximize their full academic potential as a result of what they are required to do in season.

Of course he is

There are over 100 players on my uni's football roster, even if you paid the coach nothing you're looking at an extremely small amount of money per player

Socialist pls go.

They should be paid for their image, like the NCAA videogame. That was scrapped. One could argue that they are being showcased on national television for free at a chance to get signed to a multi million dollar professional contract, and be required to pay the school.

>They're paid with a scholarship
True, but that doesnt provide money for clothes and other neccesities that require cash. Many of these guys are poor and likely wont be getting help from mom and dad. And unlike other students they dont have time for a job.

Also keep in mind that that they are fucking up their bodies (football players at least) as this is one of the few routes they have toward a good education.

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What job requires you to lift, run, jump etc. for 20-30 hours a week and only pays you in owner controlled housing and meals? Nobody has a deal like that and most wouldn't agree to it because they'd rather be paid for their work than have their owner control every aspect of their life. College football really only works because it's the bona-fide feeder program for the NFL and boosters and donors have built powerhouses. For many athletes it is also their only chance at going to college, but even in that case it should be similar to a work-study program. Ample time for studying and then as a player you are recognized as an employee of the college and paid for working.

My football team lost a bowl game a few years back, and every single player got a $500 best buy gift card. They receive constant kickbacks.

Not anymore I guess. But a few years ago certainly. The NCAA didnt want colleges giving athletes too many meals or whatever.

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They should just be college employees and get no tuition help. If they want to attend part time, they can pay themselves or get an academic scholarship

That was his point, the deal they have now is much better than min wage. If you go to an expensive school on a full ride, that's a mid range salary already. College ball player is great place to be. They hardly need it any cushier, at the expense of the rest of the school. If they were getting a raw deal, athletic scholarships wouldn't be a goal for thousands of people.

>socialist please go

you do realize that State Colleges are paid for by the state and therefore are paid for by the taxes of the people. that is socialist. Coaches for state colleges are capped from making more than a specific amount of money. in California its capped at $5 million because it is State run school

please go

They are obligated though or else they'll lose their football scholarships, and it's not like for many of them they have much to go home to.

It's bad enough that student loan money goes towards enriching universities at the expense of the student and the taxpayer, so let's not further worsen the situation by paying a large sum of cash to some dolthead for throwing a ball.

Yep you get gifts for bowl games

next time you want to throw around the word "socialist" because of "muh politicians said so"
you might want to ask yourself a god damn question. who pays for public schools, the post office, public libraries, DMV, transit, food stamps etc

stupid fuck

yes, working for free is un-American

You do think an scholarship is enough. A measly 40-60 thousand/year compared to be hundred millions, possibly billions that the NCAA make on them?

You know that you would need necessities and the like outside of that still?

t. guy that watches sports for 4 hours a day

>lets line the pockets more for those who are already rich
>lets give the coaches money for coaching said dolthead for teaching them football

you sound like a fucking retard. if the coaches and college staff get paid handsomely why shouldn't Jerome? he is putting his ass on the line every day when he is on the field and god forbid Jerome gets hurt cause he loses his scholarship and his career before it starts for free. fuck the scholarship cause he isnt going to get an education because he is busy being the best at what he does and that doesnt involve books.

Socialism = the abolishment of capitalism from society and the collective ownership of the means of production. Just because the government runs something or something is funded by taxpayers doesn't make it "socialism" you fools.

Should let the do endorsements then if they are actually good enough then they will be paid

Once they actually pay full price for their tuition, food, housing, books etc. and manage to actually get through their degree programs without being babbied through it by the schools then sure. Until then they can fuck off. Jesus, NCAA athletes are as bad as fucking natives. You can't have your cake and eat it too, if you want a nice place to live move off the reserve and give up your benefits.

>if the coaches and college staff get paid handsomely
They shouldn't. At least not with taxpayer funds. As for privately funded ventures however, they could pay their players a million dollars a year for all I care.

Why are you all pretending that athletes are "students". Come on. Maybe on a few ivy league schools but the rest are surely not there to study. Especially not football players.

>this is one of the few routes they have toward a good education
Okay and what about the other poor people who aren't athletic, they've got no routes to a good education. Take what you're fucking given

Yeah... by a separate company so they aren't in college. My tuition money shouldn't go to Tyrone to pay for weed and high shelf liquor

Ok so they dont have to go to college, just play football? And they will be paid more than minimum wage. The real question is why we pretend that any of these D1 football players are students

I feel like the paycucks are always BBC loving faggots.

Jamal gets a 50k scholarship that is worth 115k when it is paid off. Free living expenses, free food, free clothes.
But you guys want to give them some money to go buy some sticky icky and try to flash it around at school. How fucking sad

Stay sucking that cock, paycucks

>b-b-but Alabama is popular and that means the Western Kentucky Hilltoppers players deserve to be paid a cool 50g on top of their entirely expense free living

Why are you so anti-capitalist you fucking commie

>your post
>sense

Pick 1

I feel like anolitionistcucks love the BBC. Jamal and Tyrone get free food, free housing, safety, and everything their tiny minds could want. But you guys want to give them some money to go buy some sticky icky and try to flash it around at home. How fucking sad

Stay sucking that cock abolitionistcucks

The first college who decides to pay will grab all the best players, and soon others will follow.

They already are in the form of scholarships and an easy degree.

wow you are the fool

just because we are a democracy that doesn't mean that the govt cant apply other forms of govt to it. if you want to run social services such as the ones that are posted like DMV or what have you that doesnt mean that it isn't socialist.

you need to stop googling and start reading a book cause googling isn't knowledge just as copy pasting isn't knowledge

a degree these niggas will never use cause they didn't actually learn the skill to use in a real world appliication

>doesn't cover stuff like clothes and stuff
So fucking what?

They don't have paid thousands in tuition, get tons of benefits like free dorms and kickbacks.

If they really can't afford FUCKING clothes that their own problems.

Oh tough shit. Well I guess I'll just pay even more money so they can use it on frivolous things since they don't have any actual expenses

No fuck you underwater basket weaving is worth millions of dollars. These are student ath o letes LALALALALALALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU

>college athletes

And who fault was it to pick a shit degree?

Yes. Simply from the fact that the NCAA, TV networks, apparel companies etc. all make tons off money off the players' likeness

Dude all the football players are covered head to toe in under armour apparel. They have no expense at all unless they want to buy a delivery pizza, booze, and pot.

And my school isn't even FBS

>you need to stop googling and start reading a book cause googling isn't knowledge just as copy pasting isn't knowledge
The fucking irony.

Fuck no they shouldn't. They get a free ride in school and then sit there and do nothing in class. If they are good enough to want paid then they're more than likely going to the NFL and will get paid millions soon enough. The free schooling is generous because it allows them a chance to fall back on something after they blow all their money and have no career in ten years or so

>it costs you nothing
>we make billions
>if you didnt spend any money you deserve none of the revenue

>Paycucks: Mandingo Johnson should receive money for playing with a ball at a place of education
>tuition goes up even higher
>#FeelTheBern, this is outrageous

Almost nobody goes to the NFL. Colleges make more money than it costs to put players through college. Its not hard. They shouldnt really go to classes anyway

Most college athletic programs are in the red, I don't know where this idea came in your head that these gigganiggas are slaves.

I'd happily trade my position with them.. the position of me paying for school, housing, food, and clothing

If they shouldn't go to class what should they be in school for? Why the fuck should a state school pay Tyrone Smith money to carry an egg

>what is a business
>why should businesses pay their employees

They get paid already. Their tuition is paid for, free travel, food and they get stipends. They walk into this situation knowing what the deal is. I do believe that they should be able to profit off their own name (appearances, vidya, etc.). There isn't enough $ to pay all of the athletes AND keep the school going (other sports programs especially). If they're not getting paid, where does all of this money for tattoos and high priced kicks come from? Someone's giving them some money.

If they did pay them, it wouldn't be a lot because the schools couldn't afford it. They'd have to pay all athletes including the womens sports. Then you'll run into the problem of the star (insert player and position here) being upset because he should be getting paid more than the (insert 3rd string player at a position) because they're more important. It would never be enough.

I wonder if they could refuse the scholarship and choose to play the sport and pay the tuition themselves. That way they're not under the scholarship umbrella and maybe not subject to the restrictions of other athletes.

This isn't a bad idea.
I also like the idea of paying players according to the level of classes and grades achieved. A+ in Weight Training and Bowling.. $0. A+ in Calc 3, now we're talking.

But it isn't a business. It's a school. A school that costs money. Which they don't have to pay since he can carry an egg as well as anyone in the state.

Also adding to this, if they do pay them they should also pay taxes.

The vast majority get more than they produce, so they should be very pleased with status quo.

But there are probably hundreds each year who are grossly underpaid relative to productive capacity. The fact remains that you have voluntary labor being supplied to a massive revenue-generating monopoly at doesn't technically produce profits, but has huge executive salaries among its expenses. And this labor is legally banned from unionization. There's not really precedent here. sticky situation, I'm not sure what the right answer is.

Why not just take an ad out on Craigslist to get fucked by a black bull?

If you want to suck BBC so much do it on your own time and don't fuck with others tuition you cuckolds.

Wouldnt call a 40+ hours a week fulltime job a "free ride", also they are preetty much school employees in a highly dangerous job that generates millions upon millions for such schools, so yeah i do believe they are entitled to some profit, at least for the usage of their likeness and shit, or an ensured scholarship in case of carreer ending injuries, its bullshit that schools pay a student in charge of managing the football equipment and not the athletes themselves

Why do paycucks always say this shit about profit? Most schools athletic departments are running at a loss. We are quite literally supporting them and it isn't good enough because Trayvon Jones can't buy dank weed, just sticks and stems

>I don't think many people think they shouldn't be paid but the problem is legally the schools would end up having to pay a bunch of women's teams
Bingo. Colleges are already forced to have 100 women's teams in shit that no one cares about, then they would start demanding to be paid just like men's football and basketball players.

>college football
>not a business

Cmon bro its an internationally broadcasted sporting event pulling millions a year

when billions are made with the sport they are playing - sure

Good thing the players have every expense covered than

I think athletics should be removed from universities.

If it means we will get a new NCAA game than yes. If not, fuck those nigger slaves.

>Seriously. Very few people in society have a better deal than a college football player.

They deserve it for being exceptionally good at a job that is in demand and highly competitive. College football makes massive amounts of money and players should get a piece of it. Everyone else involved with college football makes money off of it. Why shouldn't the labor force?

They are getting payed with white pussy

this isn't a sufficient argument that they are being paid according to the value produced. they give labor to a monopoly and are legally banned from unionizing

They should at the very least be able to sell their tickets and profit off their own name and likeness

its absurd that they can't even sell their personal belongings.

>getting paid the same as what buying a drink at a bar will get you

they shouldn't but the money should get taken out of NCAA anyways

This is a big 10 ridell mini helmet set my ex girlfriend got for me last year, now it wasnt some cool souvenir she got for me in a trip to the states nor a particularlly rare item either, no ncaa merch is quite available in México, and im from guadalajara, nowhere near the border and not a city with a particularly big american football following, ive seen fullsize oregon helmets be sold at around 1000 dollars in México city, ncaa games are broadcasted on basic cable, and is not some recent fad my grandma still watches the probowl because of the parade and in her youth it was broadcasted on national tv, do you really want me to believe that this programs dropping millions on coaching staff, owning sporting venues with 50000+ capacity, bowls sponsored by big companies, with huge tv deals inside and outside of the united states...are running on a loss? Get the fuck out of here nigga

Rosebowl

Fuck autocorrect

Except most athletic departments are at a loss so literally one penny given to them is more than they deserve

You're comparing a handful of the top school powerhouses to the hundreds and hundreds of other schools.