Darmok and Jalad... at Tanagra

Darmok and Jalad... at Tanagra

Shaka...when the walls fell.

Temba, his arms wide

Sails unfurled - bye!

Darmok, and Jalad... on the ocean

that episode was horrible. torture to watch. so stupid. the writers were on crack that day.

Trump, when the wall fell.

Sharpie in pooper, deep!

Sokath, his eyes uncovered

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Temba, his arms wide

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Chanology, the black faxes

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saved

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Tamok! The river Tamok!

Turn on MeTv right now!

Riker, his stomach large!

come and play faggots

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If the writers were on crack it the episode would have been kickass

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lol

Have a sip of Tranya, mutha fuckah!

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Come on! One sip won't killya!

i SAID turn on MeTV!

THIS IS THE COMMANDER OF THE FIRST FEDERATION SHIP FESARIUS.

YOUR SHIP WILL BE DESTROYED. IF YOU HAVE A DEITY WE WILL ALLOW ONE EARTH HOUR FOR YOUR PREPARATIONS

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Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.

How do you have a language entirely composed of metaphor when you have no base language with which to teach the metaphor? How can you teach a new person that a complicated metaphor like "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra" means "let's work together" when you can't describe what Darmok and Jalad did, who or what they were, where or what Tanagra was, or why it was important?

Picard eventually deduces the meaning but it's impossible to confirm precisely what that particular metaphor means beyond that elementary understanding. Is teaching a Tamarian baby as complicated and frustrating as Dathon and Picard's unfortunate first meeting? Years and years of hysterical crying frustration, screaming "DARMOK AND JALAD AT TANAGRA!" into an uncomprehending babby's face. And that's just one sentence.

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Temba, at rest. ;_;

perhaps they once had a "normal" language which evolved over a long time to what they have now

Or DEvolved... like a civilization going from sentences like "How are you? Would you like to go out later?" to sentences like "how r u u wan 2 go out l8r"

Look, quit being such a retard. Their language was built upon metaphors and allegories. outsiders had little to no chance of learning it because they couldn't have the references.

Still impossible to teach a baby without first knowing the normal language.

And if you learned the normal language in order to learn the metaphor, you still know the normal language as an adult. Which Dathon did not. Single words meant nothing to him.

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there is no such thing as deevolving

evolution only works in one direction

You are a fucking Andorian
> and a troll

Look, you simply can't have a completed metaphor without the underlying language to give each word meaning and order.

The whole concept of "metaphor for a language" is a paradox. It can't exist.

I mean, even the Universal Translator was able to translate Tamarian into English so that Picard can actually understand the words "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra," so obviously the words have meaning. Dathon wasn't speaking English.

So if the words have meaning to the UT, they must have meaning to Dathon as well. Except they didn't because it was written by silly, baked hippies. Dathon just raised his hands in confusion when Picard tried to use single words, even the single words Dathon himself spoke.

I love Star Wars too man. But get over it.

There is plenty of evidence of language deteriorating... stop being a neck beard and getting hung up on semantics.

In the 50's, blacks spoke proper English... when jive (precursor to 'ebonics') came on the scene, it slowly turned from slang into a patois of English. Now "ebonics" actually has its own language rules and legitimate structure... but at its core its a degradation of (de-evolved) English proper.

Mirina Siritis used to go on stage at Trek conventions without panties and would discreetly flash people in the first row or two of the audience. She quit doing this when phones with cameras became common.

degradation/deterioration =/= de-evolvement

your fallacy is to assume that evolution = advancement, evolution is in fact adaptation, if that means a degradation happens, that is also classified as evolution

WHEN THE WALLS FELL

kek