study for12 years trying to become a surgeon

> study for12 years trying to become a surgeon
> study for 3~4 years to become a professional interpreter ( already fluent in 3 languages and studying my forth)

trips decide.

>pic unrelated

Stay a NEE, faggot

>> study for12 years trying to become a surgeon
do it nigger

surgeon

12 years fgt, you'll have no life

Surgeon you faget

Surgeon

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jumpin

Surgeon, OP.

Be a bum.

who is she

become a nigger hating cop instead

>forth
Your language career is deemed to be fucked. Surgeon.

> ITT weeb NEET high school dropouts giving advice

You need to watch more porn, mah.

excuse my autocorrect bro

seconded, who's this semen demon

i know, i will if you tell me her name

buuampign

binning

rolling to see OP performing mad language skillz

Both, never stop learning, go the further you can in knowledge.

if dubs join Isis

Here's a question. How're your high school grades and did you take all honors courses?

Many will tell you college is different in high school and even if high school went bad that college is different. College is more of the same (at least here in the US), if you sucked at high school, you'll suck at college.

Also, you realistically need sky high SATs for both.

Also, how are you with languages? Did you ever struggle even a bit? Because college language is a whole different ball game and even then our language courses here in the US are retard mode compared to how they teach them in Europe.

After 3 years of any language course Americans will, at best, speak like a 3 year old in that country. They may be able to read/write like a semi-retard in that country.... once again, at best.

And here's the thing, Euros are multilingual from birth learning 3 or 4 languages from fucking kindergarden. They can *truly* speak fluently in all of them (which require regular constant use which given the size of Europe and the fact that a few miles away people actually "speak" that language, they practice constantly by just living their life)..... Euros are far better translators than ANY American, even guys that have a fucking masters in that language.... so Euros tend to get nearly all translation jobs. There will not be a market for you if you're American.

Did you know about 95%+ of guys with a pre med degree never get to medical school? Even with a 3.5 GPA, it's very very very hard. Your grades must be perfect, and you must have preferably many of the "advanced/honors" versions of regular classes.

If you do languages, you will not do well enough, even if you have a 4.0 GPA, Euro linguists (even non formally trained ones) will be better.

If you do not have perfect grades, honors classes, scholarships, and a fanatical work ethic towards academia you will never make it to med school, even with a B average at pre med.

Just giving you a dose of realism

Dude, at least from where I live, getting a job as an interpreter is hard as fuck.

t. someone who studied french for 4 years

kill yourself instead

Listen to this person OP

>forth
You still haven't learned English faggit

idfk, interpreter?

horrible grammar and spelling, should've stuck to the native language

Don't know which european you met but in many countries they can barely speak their native language, not mentioning the fact that they barely know their language grammar

> Italyfag
> common as fuck in my country

Just be homeless OP

Just giving you a dose of realism because here in America kids are instructed to "reach for the stars" without truly grounding them in what is actually possible.

College is *very much* a cash grab these days and most either fail or get degrees that are useless (and both of these will be if you don't give 110%). The advisors and particularly the college ones encourage kids to try for degrees which are either useless or remarkably unrealistic given their aptitude because truly all they care about is to keep the money rolling in.

And I didn't even realize you said "surgeon" earlier.... you have to be the cream of the crop even in the field of fucking medicine to do that. 95% of premed guys aren't even accepted into medical school, to be accepted as a surgeon you must have a fucking flawless record.

I also did thisMy 2 cents is that both are something unrealistic. You should probably shoot for something that has good-ish money like a 4 year computer program from a reputable state college or a 4 year engineering program instead.

These curriculems very much ARE possible for a laymen (but you still must give 100%), but you likely won't wind up with a B average in pre med (which is useless just like a B average in pre law).... Or get a degree in languages when honestly any 10 year old average Euro would make a better translator than you even after a fucking masters in languages.

I've typed out 2 very long thoughtful posts because I fucked up my college experience by being a dreamer and a ran out of fucking money.

Also, without scholarships (which if you're even considering medicine you SHOULD have scholarships), your ideas are probably very poor ones.

I'm in EU actually, moved here not long ago, and yes I am fluent, had no problems with languages and always felt like they "clicked" easily learned and understood.

Never been to Italy but Netherlands and Germany extensively. Everyone I knew spoke English as well as us Americans do (and sometimes better) with just a hint of an accent. Most spoke French too. Some guys knew Russian also.

Pretty much everyone knew at least 3 languages with full conversational fluency (something even college graduates majoring in foreign language never seem to get in teh US). Us teaches us with people speaking very very very slowly.

sounds like you're a polyglot

just become an interpreter and master as many languages as you can

10k € vs 3k € monthly
-let me think about it

doc has very different cases, studies and possibilities
interpreter translates day in day out

-oh, please

by the time you become a surgeon you can live happily as an interpreter.

Still, you gotta consider that it's something ALL Euros can do and do well (well nearly all). Meaning the job market is flooded with guys who can do that job better than you with no training.

It's unrealistic.

And surgeon is likely unrealistic too.

I'm gonna say this for a 3rd time because it's super important... 95% of prelaw students that graduated (and most don't graduate) DO NOT make it to law school. Even a B average generally is not good enough for admission. They like to see all honors courses. And a surgeon must be the best of the best of those who got actually admitted.

I simply think you're setting the bar too high and will hit the ground hard.

But if you've been straight As, honor courses, got full ride scholarships, and nearly perfect SATs, then it will be possible. Otherwise don't try. You'll be in 100k debt (or more) for a degree you didn't even get.

northern Europe countries have a far better language educational system than other european nations, if you want to learn more than one language here it's a plain pain in the ass

It depends on the languages he speaks, if these are some Serbian trash languages he's in deep shit, rare languages are what embassies are looking for.

Also it's way easier to become a doctor in the EU, especially in Germany.

As an oldfag with work experience I find the following to be true of Graduates, high schoolers etc.

Can't pick a phone up

Can't get to work on time

Can't write an email

Can't spell

Can't work in a team

Unable to document processes

And so on

'Education' is useless for most employers

> 95% of prelaw students that graduated (and most don't graduate) DO NOT make it to law school.

I meant to say premed students don't make it to med school.... though the statement about pre law is true also.

fluent in : Russian, English, Hebrew, currently studying German.

I'm fucked?

>Hebrew
>worrying about jobs/money

you're jewishing wrong

sauce

bumping

nigger

Maybe you're a retard, but op asked.

welfare

not a nigger tho

Surgeon
+ can go abroad if good
+ can earn a lot more than interpreter
- a lot can happen in those 12 years
- you can drop out so many times in 12 years
- it's piss fucking hard

Heck, if you are on Sup Forums, I would say interpreter. It's a lot more laidback job than a Surgeon.

As a surgeon you will be forced by peer pressure not to undertake surgery on someone who could easily be saved by it.

protip* even if you're a top tier tip top surgeon anywhere outside the US, you can't work in the US as a surgeon.

bumping folks

>>> study for12 years trying to become a surgeon
JUST FUCKING DO IT NIGGER

off by one nigger, reroll..

>>> study for12 years trying to become a surgeon
this is a big factor to consider, as a physician in the surgical field, I can tell you that although the money is good the sacrifices you make on the way and the stress and workload after is something to consider

elaborate please

rolling
professional interpreter, too many refugees

>studying my forth
surgeon

and dont forget the impact on health over the time. stress, responsibilities, people who sue you, smoking etc. in the end most physicians are dead inside

OP, what's your opinion on the Greek language?
Difficulty
"Quality"
etc etc

BioEngineer

Do it I fucking dare you

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>>>> study for12 years trying to become a surgeon
JUST GODDAMN FUCKING DO IT YOU FUCKING NIGGER

during medical school most of your friends are just fucking around, you're busting your ass. During residency you're working like a slave (i averaged almost 95 hours a week) for minimal pay while your friends are earning substantially more, they are typically getting married kids etc. and you will probably meet someone but the hours strain any relationship you might have. After residency assuming you don't do a fellowship, you work which isn't nearly as bad but typically you have to cover calls which sucks balls...i'm high right now user if you have specific questions ask away.
I'm a Trauma surgeon in the US. Its my week off i'm living it up, which is a perk with a nice salary.

WHO IS GRILL??

Seconding, check^

It's easy to get work as an interpreter if you specialize. Also, "translating" one Western European language to another is Playskool-tier.

Lol. Im an MSIII on trauma now. I hope youre at my hospital

>I know Spanish and learned Portuguese, French and Italian with no problems!
>tell me I'm a genius!

Do a BioEngineer

lol what region of the country? once you are an ms3 you're pretty much committed or you have parents that are paying for everything. good luck user

PA at an MD teaching hospital

I wish I had parent with money, just loans on loans.

...

Fuck it, join the Marines

yea they are a bitch but once you're done it's manageable. i'm in the southeast

is this a meme?

Yeah, im not too concerned (no time to be)
Surgery blows though. Dont know how you dealt with that lifestyle for so many years. Working 4am-7pm is just stupid. Guess you really have to love it

you really do or you'll just burn out and end up on meds lol sadly I have a few friends hat are really feeling it now. unless you love surgery i'd shy away from it. if it is money you want do cards or GI

I also thought about translator/interpretator training but then I thought that...

Realisticly... isn't google translate and such going to be nearly flawless in like 10-15 years and less expensive to hire than a human. Ofc there would be the programing side of it but some tech can even learn by itself.

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