Anyone else here dealing with serious gender issues?

anyone else here dealing with serious gender issues?

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like what?

there is no such thing, if you don't like being your gender just kill yourself

really constructive

like wanting to be a girl
I know I do with all my heart

yes. i identify as a 2D Waifu.

pick one
(a) dude
(b) chick

are you doing anything about it?

How do you know you want to be a girl if you've never been one? Maybe it's fucking horrible.

I'm deeply sorry but it's only idiots that think like you. You're just gay and want to be treated as a girl because they are cute. There is no difference, and you have no fucking idea how it feels to have girl-hormones etc.

try tumblr

its a place for faggots like u

I pick chick every time, I hate being male

lol no

i try, but its hard for people who've stuck with X for so long adapt to Y. thankfully many forms for various things have an "other" option and i fill that out.

well then be a chick

naw, they are cringe about it

>How do you know you want to be a girl if you've never been one? Maybe it's fucking horrible.
well I go out sometimes done up as a girl and every time it feels like the planets align for me and I can breathe easy

>and you have no fucking idea how it feels to have girl-hormones
actually I am on estrogen, progesterone, and I have almost zero testosterone (just had labs done my T is 2 and my estrogen is higher then a pregnant woman)

no

My only gender issue is that women are pretty much useless other than being life support for vaginas.

This is just bait, /thread

Just get some tit implants and be a trap.

no you fucking retard

Not like we have the tech for that

Give it a few decades and it might be possible, untill then, you're stuck as a guy

meh, I'm growing my own

you on hormones?

no its not

I get so fucking anxious when I read shit like this. There really are NO smart transgender people and that just proves my point that it's all just bullshit.

Just as I said, you're gay and just want to look like a girl because it's so much easier. It's not a fucking problem that you don't get attention when you're in your male form. It's not real, it's a fake fucking problem.

You really want to change gender to get more attention, you should really just go suicide in public or something to relieve your hard attention-boner.

>you'll belong to a demographic that's looked down upon and marginalized
>unless you were born with very feminine traits, you'll always be an obvious trans with your strong jawline and broad shoulders (HRT can't fix everything)
>a fake pussy will probably be a lot less sensitive than your cock is right now, sex and masturbation won't be that pleasurable
>hormones will fuck with your emotions and personality
>you'll never be able to do things a true woman can, such as bear children

If you think the benefits outweigh that, go ahead. I probably would have preferred being born as a woman but becoming one partway through life would cause more problems for me than it would solve.

More pics.

Its not about attention irl, in fact I want to draw little attention as possible.

yeah none of those irk me anymore

kek

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is it gay if I want to fuck you?

Ye, wish I was grill. However my 8" makes it easier to live with myself.

If missing out on all of the things that make a woman "womanly" doesn't irk you, then you're probably becoming a woman for the wrong reasons. What attracts you to being a woman, if not the things I listed? Be specific and articulate, not short and vague.

Do you have untreatable facial hair growth, strong male features?
Hair growing on your shoulders and you want to wear armless dresses, or spaghetti carriers?

Then fuck it, you'll never have a chance.
Anybody who looks at you will know what is up.

>Ye, wish I was grill
then follow your dreams, my cock was 8 inches and I still started hormones

no, u faggot

i have a belly button fetish, how's yours looking? may we see?

Yes, actually. I fucking hate it when people say that I'm not allowed to feel what I feel or something just because I feel like a girl. I'm only not coming out about it because of people that'll think of it the wrong way.

For the record, I don't believe there are more than two genders. I just feel like one of those two.

Also check 'em

How's your dick now after the hormones? Does it shrink or look/act differently?

There is always a reason to why you feel better when you dress up as a woman. And if you seriously just state your reason in your head, your true reason, you will laugh at yourself.

You don't just "feel better as a girl", there are factors that make you "feel better as a girl". Whether it's your delusional mind, getting attention from hetero-sexual males or just thinking that you, yourself look good doesn't matter.

Your reasons will never be good enough, just look at the numbers of suicide post-op. (I don't have them but they're sky-high).

As long as you pay for all of this yourself I really don't mind. You can do whatever the fuck you want with your own money. My problem with this is that tax-payers money often is spent on shit like this.

If you're a parasite that gets this paid by tax-payers, you better think hardly about the homeless people, the sick and old people that suffer and die because of that you are not satisfied with what you were born with. Get some fucking perspective.

>If missing out on all of the things that make a woman "womanly"
naw, what you pointed out is not what makes a woman womanly. Having babies is what breeders do. Being womanly is how you carry yourself, dress, act, and look.

actually I got all my facial hair zapped off in the course of 4 weeks and hormones made all my male body hair vanish, I don't even have arm hair anymore

Met all transgender people, have you? Grow up, kid.

GG m8. Please keep your bits. They are amazing.

>Being womanly is how you carry yourself, dress, act, and look.
If that's true, then you don't need to be a woman to be womanly. So why become one? You dodged the question.

If it is a bad choice OP will know, because every trans person has to live through a trial period of hormone therapy by itself before getting any permanent surgeries.

Edgy, pronounced chin, long cheekbones, oversized, clearly male hands, a typical V-shape torso? there's lotsa giveaways to consider yet.

just had it pierced

>How's your dick now after the hormones?
pretty much dead, also had my balls snipped 2 months ago

What is your voice like?
Do you do the squeaky pretend female voice?

i get anxious when i read shit like this, there really are NO smart transphobes. sexual orientation has nothing to do with being transgender, some transgirls like girls and dont give a fuck about getting attention from straight men.

The suicide rate is high because of people like you, ass hat

yeah, can you vocaroo something for us?

:( only reason I don't want hormones or being snipped is losing my pp. Is it worth it?

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Please, I invite you to link me to a page with a highly-intelligent, achieved transgender person. Be it a entrepreneur, entertainer (not some weird stripper) or anything that generates money and provides for our society and I will gladly change my mind proven that your example holds up properly.

>FUCK YOU FOR HATING ISIS! YOU HAVEN'T MET ALL OF THEIR MEMBERS!

You fucking idiot, again you just strenghten my opinion with your idiotic comment.

I'm surprised, that is actually pretty good.

>Is it worth it?
leaps and bounds sister, leaps and bounds better then being stuck as a guy. My wardrobe went from jeans and tee shirts to anything I want

does a drag queen count?

Another idiotic fucking comment. ISIS would create a nice society for themselves where their members would be happy, IF NO OTHER HUMANS EXISTED, which is why they want to kill everyone.

You are so fucking retarded. People like me exist, that's why I think transgenderism is a stupid concept. If the world was different, maybe my opinion would be different. But it is as it is.

You can't be serious with this shit. God damn you people are stupid.

marry me

Maybe someday kiddo. I'm really scared of all the opinions from my Roman catholic family. I love them more than anything else, so leaving is a big nono.

Top ten. From one search.

therichest.com/rich-list/most-influential/worlds-10-most-influential-transgender-people/

And I can hate ISIS without hating everyone who fights for them. A lot of them are scared or stupid.

Try thinking outside of your narrow mind once in a while.

9/10 would hug that voice.

>letting your family cuck you out of your freedom
wew

Checked

Small price if you knew how amazing it feels to have a family of 20 plus that would do anything to help you. I just know that the majority would not like the idea of me coming out as anything.

>doesnt like a froup of people
>compares them to isis

Haha you can call me stupid all you like but you haven't put forward a sensible argument. You don't like it. I get it. Go fuck yourself.

#1 is a person who got killed, wow, great job. He literally did nothing except get killed. Good fucking list.

Oh, a polish transgender-rights activist is on the list too, damn that's exactly what I looked for.

Stephen whittle, a man.

I'm not even going to continue. There is no-one on that fucking list who has done anything impressive. And atleast 50% of them are just transgender activists???

Holy fuck, I feel bad for you.

>that would do anything to help you
except accept the real you
nice delusion pal
don't you wanna be cute and sexy?

Im a guy who likes to be a sissy sometimes but that doesnt really bother me

If you weren't an idiot you would understand that I didn't compare transgender people with ISIS. I used ISIS to explain why the previous argument about non-transgender people was invalid.

Another stupid pro-transgender. The trend doesn't fucking stop does it? Didn't think so.

>call op out on dodging my question
>no response
op confirmed to have no idea why they do the things they do

Well sorry you cant be a chick, you can get your dick turned inside out and all the plastic surgery in the world but that doesnt make you a woman. Can you birth a child? No, then youre not a woman. You can want to be one all you like, I mean honestly i think Id rather be one, but heres the difference between me and you. I got over it, i accepted reality and moved on with my life.

The list includes lawyers, surgeon, politicians, models and directors.

You asked for examples of intelligent transgender people who have contributed to society. You also said if you were presented with said list you would change your mind

Imagine my total lack of surprise that you're just a bigoted fuckwit.

I am. In my house privately. I personally would be more trap than Trans so I fit that bill. Also it's not like guys fall from the sky in indiana that would love to rail a person like me. Last time I fell for a guy he broke my tiny heart.

Well sissy isn't a gender, but props for being honest about your fetish I guess. This is a different problem.

Nope, only confused little faggots who deserve the ass kicking of their lives like you

kys faggot...wanting to be a pussy gross

I would love to rail you. Only time I wished I lived in Indiana.

not yet, but in a months time i will be.

Just because you feel like a thing does not mean you are a thing. In your own mind you can be whatever you want, and you can even carry that out to the physical world if you really want to, just dont expect others to give a shit or change for you. There are consequences for everything you do. Simple as that.

Sause?

I do. And it's fucking scary that not only my country doesn't have "gender therapists", and most trans-folk are forced to self-med, but the fact that I'm locked in this country for at least a few years.

Also, I'm scared that I'll lose everything I have if I come out, considering I still live in my parents' house, attend university, and plan to actually have a career in CSE.

No because I'm an adult male with a normally functional brain.

>just dont expect others to give a shit or change for you
no one does, when I go out done up as a girl people call me mam and stuff, hell its getting hard to pass as a guy at this point

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There's always this guy. I know that I'm not a girl, I'm just not willing to go through surgery for it because

1: My family will never accept me
2: People like you would tell me that I'm still not a girl

Say what I am and what I'm not, I know what I feel, and I'm sorry for anyone that doesn't believe that I do

Hahahahahaha. Gender issues. You just like dick and need attention. Get over it. Visit a gay bar and accept the fact you are gay.

All these people turning into bullshit genders, you know why? Because it's no longer "a problem" if you are gay. But all of them need the attention and need to feel special. So they turn to being trans/pan/gender fluid, pure cancer.

Prove to me that Sup Forums has done anything useful to society.
You can't? Well clearly Sup Forums doesn't exist then

Easy for you to speak, when you're doing the same thing on Sup Forums, fag.

Then just be gay secretly, theres no reason to ruin relationships because you want to be a chick

Yeah I've thought about it since I was made 13. on and off with varying intensity and intention to actually step forward with the process. always backed out.

Recently I realised something though (partly due to reassessing the situation, the context and different contributing factors, and partly due to shifting my politics a bit) that I almost certainly am not transgender and in fact it was merely an element of an anxiety disorder / ocd intrusive thoughts / low self esteem depressive state. Of course I think I'd still like the idea of being the other sex but I think that's natural human curiosity, and really an extension (and confusion) of the natural male desire to get as close to the female body as possible.

For me, I honestly think at the moment, transgender thoughts I had which I thought ran really really deep were actually part of a more general dissociation with my body, and having been exposed to the rather novel idea of being able to transition my mind would keep returning to it (intrusive thoughts) as the solution - not to mention the fact that the idea turned me on so it was cemented on a chemical level as my brain was rewarding me for thinking about it.

I also have come to realise that myself and more and more people of this generation are having transgender thoughts, really comes down to the pushing of identity politics in everyday life. We are heavily encouraged to soul search, be ourselves, work out what we want to do with our lives (rather than actually just doing something), and self identify as all sorts of things. I guess there's also the downplaying of the importance of male characteristics in the education system, and a general trend toward 'feminisation' (which isn't actually necessarily a bad thing, being civilised, clean and caring about how you look isn't a bad thing for a man and isn't new). I guess porn also plays an impact, decreasing T levels and reprogramming the brain to make us think we don't have to try for sex irl.

enjoy being depressed forever

Daw thanx

I know that it's a lot of text but thought you might find my ramblings useful OP.

>TL;DR thought i was a girl, I'm not, just weird

lots of people here do. myself included.

This looks terrible. You have no tits and you aren't a woman. You are on track to kill yourself when you start aging and no one thinks you look right.

>such as bear children
>as bear children
>bear children

please go on? do you mean because I said I HAD depression? Because I'm good these days. Or are you pro- transition and you think that because I've turned my back on the idea, that it will still be there under the surface and make me depressed? honestly I'm not sure what you mean

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On the last part, I'm a man, I have a lot of hair all over my body, and I just hate it with passion, I'd easily pay to remove all of it if I could, however I don't feel I was made to think of this by society. I just think body hair looks bad, is annoying, at takes away from hygiene. I just can't see why body hair is of any use in the last few centuries.

He's just sad and he wants to bring others down to his level.

If you wanted to be a girl at any point in your life then you are trans. I said the same shit as you are to try and not have the feelings but deep down logic could never beat out the feelings and I put off transition and ended up miserable until I sucked it up and went for it.