Hey Sup Forumsros, question

Hey Sup Forumsros, question.

I recently discovered that I'm no longer interested in normal sex (I was at least semi-attracted to women before). Now all that seems to get me going is fantasizing about abducting women, drugging them, strapping them into immobilizing bondage equipment, and then using them like objects.

I don't have any actual plans to go out and do this (because I don't fancy spending the rest of my life in jail), but all of my fantasies only revolve around these kinds of themes. Involuntary immobilization bondage, paralytic drugs, mind control rape, remote control, etc.

Does anyone know of a way I can get back to enjoying mutual sex with a real person? I have a girlfriend (of 6 years) and we have basically gotten to the point where the relationship is sexless and we've both accepted it.

Inb4 why the fuck are you asking advice on Sup Forums?
TLDR I can't climax without thinking about women as controllable objects. Is there a way to fix it that doesn't involve expensive therapy?

yea im gonna need sauce
also dont be so stupid,youll end up in prison and youll be the victim

When I see an attractive woman, I don't think to myself, "Wow, I wonder what she looks like naked."

Instead, I think, "I bet I could carry her if I hit her with a blow dart. I wonder what her skin tastes like. I could take her teenage daughter too and then switch back and forth between their pussies when they're immobilized. Make a game of it and See if I guess correctly when I estimate which one I'll be inside when I cum."

oh ok so want to be a pedophile/rapist

Talk to your girl about it and see if shes down for a game of rape. Or just rape her, its your girlfriend dude.

I have all these creative ideas for different rigs I could use with enough basement space. Some of them use merry-go-round style ball bearing mechanisms or swivels so that I can pull out of one of my prisoners and finish in another. My fantasies have gotten a lot more elaborate over the years.

Not at all. That kind of stuff disgusts me. It's more of an 18+ fantasy. That kind of "teen". I think the idea of mother-daughter is just another part of the control fantasy, it's not an age thing.

Dude I dont think youre getting it,no girl would say "fuck yea ill go into your basement and try out these sex contraptions with you"
unless you pay them....

I'm in the same exact boat user.

lol I think you have just been watching too much porn. Try to be without fapping or watching porn a couple of months and If you don't want your girlfriend "The normal way" it could be you're just a faguette.

Also jesus i need some fuckign sauce for the first one

That's the thing, it's gone far past that. I don't even find my girlfriend attractive anymore.

I'm not sure if it's just the whole "desensitized by porn" shit that conservative christians are always ranting about, or if I'm genuinely developing some of the same sexual psychosis that serial killers get where they literally cannot climax without thinking of radically weird shit.

That being said, I have ZERO plans of doing any of this, I'm just venting in what I consider to be a very safe place. That's what I love about Sup Forums. I can talk about whatever I like here and you guys won't judge me and eventually this thread will disappear.

OP Here

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good sir doing gods work

I bet there is some site where you can find masochist and sadist people who want exactly the same as you. And if you seriously can't even find her attractive anymore, why be with her? It could just be that she is boring as hell. Cheat on her or something, do something exiting

It could be that you're interested into Dom/Sub relationships. This doesnt have to be unhealthy... but it can get really unhealthy if you don't approach it right. Find a partner (maybe that's your current partner or maybe it's not) who is also into "control." Being a "top" or a "dom" is a serious role to take on. You can do it respectfully and morally and still get into some pretty intense/extreme stuff. It requires a lot of intentional thought and care and communication.

I'd encourage you to read some SERIOUS books about the BDSM community, Dom/Sub relationships, and control as it relates to sex. As a soft-entry-point I'd also recommend googling "violent rape fantasies tumblr" and follow the dude who runs that tumblr. He's very thoughtful and wise about this topic while also being pretty intense with his fantasies - and you can see that he isn't alone, tons of women love his tumblr.

I hope you continue to explore your sexuality in ways that serve you, and your partners.

Cheers, mate.

On my old computer I had an entire series of videos, bootlegged from Korea or Japan (not sure which, I'm pretty sure it was Japan from the Kanji). I'm 90% sure it was underground film and not porn, since it wasn't blurred out, and it was a doctor who anesthetized his patients for surgical procedures and before moving them to the surgical room would give them involuntary orgasms with a little black bag he had.

I was devastated when I lost that hard drive and I could never find the videos again. Not with all my google-fu.

That was where my fetish started.

look into the deep web OP,heard there is alot of freaky shit/underground

I've always been unsure about BDSM and whether or not it would work for me. My fetish revolves around using women as objects and I always thought that would be inherently disrespectful to an actual partner in a relationship. I suppose I could find someone who is in it just for the sex, though.

That's an awful lot of hoops to jump through just to get off though, and this relationship I'm in right now has everything else I want in it, just no sex.

I'll risk losing a lot leaving it. A happy fulfilling relationship isn't worth jeopardizing for just sex, at least not for me, but I guess that's why I feel trapped by my desires.

I guess what made me want to post this thread was I started watching Criminal Minds and I found myself relating to some of the criminals they were chasing. I started getting this terrible feeling that while I may never have uncontrollable impulses that will land me in jail, it is entirely possible that I could end up unable to find "normal" sex gratifying and that I could spend the rest of my life feeling like I either need a sexual partner who is into all this weird shit I like or I'll have to spend the rest of my life in some dark corner at 3am jerking off to some wacky porn I hope my girlfriend won't see.

Yeah BDSM doesn't work for everyone. But it does you no harm to read about it, and get a better idea of whether or not it is something that would be a good fit for you. Knowledge is power. Worst case you go, "Yeah not my bag."

Rough sex, control, etc. doesn't have to be disrespectful. Even urinating on someone, writing "whore, cum slut" on someone's body, or humilitating them while cumming on them doesnt HAVE to be disrespectful. It's all about whether or not the other person is consensual and on-board with the activity. My current girlfriend LOVES when I call her a whore when we have sex, and talk about how I'm just using her to get out my sexual frustrations. It drives her wild. But when we are not having sex, we have other ways to communicate that I love and respect her, which allows her to relax into the sexual appeal of being "used."

So I would encourage you away from thinking that "just sex" is separate from "a relationship." For me the two are inextricably linked.

Only you can decide if your current relationship has enough benefits that you don't want to venture out into single-dom to try to find a more close sexual match. Everything is a matter of degrees... I could see myself being in a relationship where everything was so perfect that a dull sex life would become acceptable. But... I was in that relationship before (married for 7 years). Then I got a divorce (it was hell), but about 4 years later I found a partner I feel much more closely aligned to. It's possible.

These are the kinds of important questions to think about, I guess I would argue: "Am I happy in relationship?" "Do I get what I want out of it?" "Is my current situation around my sexuality sustainable?" "How happy am I?" "Should I leave or stay?"

The answers are different for everyone. Don't let anyone give you the answers!

I've also found that sexuality is like a muscle. If I only ever masturbate in a chair while watching porn, it's hard to get off while standing up (try masturbating in a new posture sometime - laying in your bed, standing in the shower, etc. some posture you don't usually do).

The mentality you use to get excited is the same. If you only ever have a "go to" to get off, then you'll only get in the habit of getting off with that image. Try to re-enchant different aspects of sex (softness is sexy. innocence is sexy. lack of control is sexy. control is sexy.)

It takes practice, and frustrated orgasms. Just like breaking yourself of orgasming in a single posture does.

Sorry to dominate the thread. I'm just here bored, and this is kind of a topic I care about...

All good points. I guess the problem is that I'm not sexually satisfied in my current relationship. While looking into bondage, submission, and domination is probably a decent avenue for trying to find an outlet for my cravings, I suppose the real fear is that it will lead me even further away from my current relationship.

But, I suppose hoping for a magic pill that will make "normal" sex come back in THIS relationship is equally naive.

Thanks for the response.

You could also take this desire for a "magic pill" as a sign that you want to come back closer to your relationship. You could try doing something crazy and spontaneous. Take your honey out for a weekend getaway (like within an hours drive, but get an air-bnb or something... go to a nice dinner... see some local landmark). Then talk to her about how you've been wanting to reconnect physically, and you think she's the bees knees.

Take her back to your place, tie her hands together with silk and lick her all over.

I guess the big take-away from my perspective is, you're asking good questions user. Think about it. Take these questions (not as a sign that youre heading down a bad path but) as a doorway to learn more about yourself, and make your life and your relationship more of what you want them to be.

Of course, I'm a random 4Channer.... so take my advice for what it is worth :D

Well, I get what you're saying about different positions, but you're also saying this about different things that I just don't find attractive anymore.

I suppose it couldn't hurt. I'll call it cognitive-behavioral therapy, for my penis. Hah.

Well, to try to pursue this point through a couple different analogies...
>I don't like cumming in a position other than sitting. It's too much hassle to keep my balance while standing, and it takes too much effort. I like to be able to move my feet/legs however I want instead of needing to use them for balance.
>But that's because I'm used to not having to do those things. When I was 15 I would have killed to have an orgasm with a chick while standing... its just that now I've gotten used to not having to do orgasm in any way expect the way I find most comfortable.
Or in another analogy
>I only like sphaghetti. I don't like eating tomatoes by themselves.
>I'm used to eating a specific combination of food, prepared in a certain way, at a certain temperature.

In order to appreciate something youre not used to (like the joy of eating a tomato slice by itself, lightly salted, or with a little olive oil) you may have to purposefully try to distance yourself from what you do find comfortable (a canned tomato sauce from a brand you love). Your body and your mind get used to things, and get comfortable with them. If you push the boundaries, you can appreciate more things.

It's why I love camping... because after a day or two of feeling like shit in the woods, I suddenly really appreciate my bed, a good shower, and the convenience of cooking something on my stove at home instead of over a fire. The same thing works for physical comforts, foods, and sex.

It's hard with my girlfriend. My last girlfriend was an amazing kisser, average in bed but very tight, and didn't have any problem with me using her pussy when she was asleep, which really would help when I had my fantasies. She also loved receiving oral sex, which always gave me a boost of sexual confidence because I could just eat her pussy for 20-30 minutes and give her several orgasms and I knew that I was definitely leaving her wanting nothing at the end of our encounters.

This girlfriend isn't much of a kisser, has a much looser pussy, doesn't like me going anywhere near her with oral sex, and is basically just average in the body and sex department. Also, since the relationship started, she's put on about 60 pounds.

Now, aside from all that, she's a great partner, a good friend, contributes in all other parts of my life, takes great care of me, makes me laugh, holds my hand through hard times, and is everything else you would want in a partner.

The other girl, who was great in bed, she was a cheating impulsive whore.

Guess who I still think about sometimes?

This primate brain is a pain in the ass, I'm telling you.

I totally get what you're driving at. I'll give it a shot. I have nothing to lose. I appreciate the suggestion!

No dude. Embrace who you are. Get a gf interested in the weird crazy shit you like. Enjoy yourself

Suppressing your urges is just gonna make you miserable. If you 'actually' wanted to kill someone, or rape them, then you'd seek help.

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My ex-wife was an all around mean, selfish, cold bastard. (It wasn't all her fault... she had a really rough childhood... but it didn't make her bad character more enjoyable in real-time.) My current girlfriend is unfailingly sweet, generous, and kind.

I still constantly fantasize about my ex. Probably numerous times a week? (at least in passing) I wouldn't go back to her... but the sex was pretty awesome (one of the best parts of the relationship, so obviously I have a pretty positive feeling about it)... and so the thoughts about control and domination are even hotter, because its like I can pluck all the best parts of that relationship out - without dealing with the crap from it.

We don't always want to have sex with people who are good for us...? ^_^

This could potentially be a plan, but let's say for the sake of argument I decide to leave my girlfriend and find such a person.

What personality traits go along with a woman who wants to be used like an object? What am I getting myself into? I worry that the kind of person I'll end up looking for will be EXACTLY the kind of person I can't be in an actual adult grow-old-together relationship with, and that's what I'm after.

If I have to choose sex or life partner, I'll take life partner, so I've gotta ask, what are the personality traits that go along with that fetish. Any psychology students here that can help me out?

source please

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60 pounds? Hory shet that's like -half- my entire bodyweight. Jesus fuck she must have a winning personality, I dumped my last gf after she put on a third of that. She was also a cunt though, so theres that.

legend, thank you

Doctoral candidate in the social sciences here... ex-wife was an MSW focusing on domestic violence.

The question you're asking is one about probabilities. We can't say for certain... SOME people are into that fetish and are totally normal/healthy/great partners.

But... speaking with probabilities... I would say the kind of person who has been pushed to explore (and then embrace) this kind of lifestyle is someone who has experienced some shit, or otherwise doesn't fit the "normal" lifestyle. So they tend to either be artistic, sensitive/fragile, emotionally needy in some specific regard (ex. maybe wanting a "rock" partner to support them or they want an "adventure partner" but they probably have strong feels about what they want, maybe they had a traumatic experience, maybe they haven't had a traumatic experience but they felt they never fit in just right and so they feel strongly about being themselves, they want someone who will accept them for who they are and help them be a better version of themselves).

TL;DR - You can never say for certain. But you're not signing up for the "lame and dull" personality type. You're probably going to get someone who either has a colored-past or is larger-than-life... and you have to buckle up to ride along with 'em.

Just my two cents...

same here. You got kik to talk about it?

Sounds like marriage, OP

i've lurked but they dont have any real good stuff on kidnapped girls

I'm too much of an oldfag. I've never kik'd.

Basically sounds like every basket-case I've ever dated. Either there are no neurotypical women or I've just never managed to attract one. Either conclusion is pretty hilarious.

well I was thinking of a house with an elevator. Punch in a code on the elevator and it brings you down to a secret chamber no more than 25ft with a girl tied down to a death row bed. Obviously she would have to be spread and forced to orgasm multiple times continuously. Also sound proofing or tongue cutter necessary ;)

Haha, yeah I felt a little funny typing "normal." Because it can either be used to mean, non-scientifically, "not fucked up" as in "she was a normal, not-fucking-hyper-bitch, kind of girl." or it can mean normal as in frequency, "that type of haircut on a girl is incredibly normal. or she fits within the 'normal' body-weight for girls."

I would say MOST people are NOT normal in the healthy sense. Most people (men and women) are pretty fucking awful partners.

Which is to say, its incredibly normal (statistically) to be not be normal (i.e. to be all fucked up).

Yea, apparently she was starving herself when we first met. The moment I started encouraging her to eat like a normal fucking human being she turned into the genetic travesty she inherited from her mother.

She only eats like 1300-1500 calories a day with a limited fat intake, no fast food, mostly vegetarian diet, and she clocks in at probably 240-250. I don't know the exact number since we don't keep a scale in the house, but the least she could possibly weigh is 220 lbs and I doubt she was more than 160 when we met, so I'm being generous when I say 60.

She's not unattractive, either. Has a face very similar to Monica Belluci.

I used to focus almost exclusively on orgasm related fantasies, but then it progressed to something else. I wanted the orgasm to be involuntary, a violation even.

One of my fantasies was a mind control drug. Use it and then tell the woman to remove her clothing. Use her own brain as the restraints. Tell her to spread her legs. Make her tell you her deepest darkest secrets while you fuck her. Make her confess all the terrible slutty things she's done, the relatives she's slept with, the time she dropped her baby. The time she thought about killing herself after having an abortion.. and while she's telling you all these terrible secrets, you tell her to cum, and you feel her involuntarily squeeze you and milk an intense orgasm out of you while inside her paralyzed brain she is silently screaming.

The fantasies have gotten more and more intense over the years.