Starting with the most obvious, anyone who has actually studied the circumstances surrounding the "American Revolution" would realize if there were any "villains" in that conflict, it was the colonials.
And even then they needed the British Empire to be too preoccupied with a far more important war in Europe to actually "win."
The Minutemen and guerrilla fighters didn't even contribute significantly to the battles, that's a myth. It really was the colonial regulars who did all the heavy lifting.
This movie -- like the actual "War of Independence" -- is based almost entirely on fuck and lies.
>mfw america was so unimportant that the british let it go
Blake Fisher
What's your end game OP?
Henry Sullivan
Americans consider The Patriot to be based on the true story and everything in it as hstorical fact
u simply cannot win OP
Levi Mitchell
>was
Count the supercarriers
Looks like we own the seas now
Benjamin Edwards
The American Revolution was incredibly gray VS gray.
The colonials had a point in that they were being taxed without being represented in parliament. But the Brits had a point in putting the (actually pretty small) taxes in place, as the colonials had started a war with the French that cost Britain a shitload of money.
It says a lot that the most balanced version of the American revolution in popular culture is a hip-hop musical. And even that puts the blame on George III, who was pretty much not involved in the entire thing.
Michael Howard
yeah
america is basically britain's son that carries on all of the family traditions
Dominic Parker
Even as a Britcuck, I've studied the period and it basically amounts to over a century of colonials conquering America from the natives, doing literally everything themselves, and then the British stepping in to protect their interests after the Seven Years war. Except by this point the colonials already had more than a century of relative independence and they weren't a fan of the heavy handed nature of British legislation against them.
The only thing the colonials did pretty badly was not pull enough weight during the Seven Years war but that's understandable given their situation.
Christian Cruz
>we >from someone who would literally be shot if he set foot on one
Hudson Nguyen
Nice try britcuck.
Jordan Foster
I'm not sure if you're being serious...
You the movie is classified as "historical fiction". You do know what the word fiction means right?
Brandon Richardson
>yes sir, I'd like to join the navy >welcome aboard, literally
whew, so difficult
Check out this pic, I made Ryan Gooselings face straigh instead of crooked.
Matthew Murphy
Whatever helps you sleep at night britbong
Tyler Rivera
>yes sir, I'd like to join the navy >*gets shot by naval MPs*
Fixed.
Bentley Smith
Go home bong, no one cares. And the wall just got 10 FEET HIGHER
Joshua Gray
>largest most defensible piece of land on the planet, especially back in those days
Yep, Brits are fucking retarded.
Parker Ramirez
The Patriot was genuinely shit, though. Although they DO need to invent British atrocities, in order to make the story of "a bunch of slave owners claiming they're fighting for freedom" a bit easier.
Thomas Jenkins
Why exactly would recruiters shoot me? Did you take that as I fucking swam out to one and climbed aboard in all black with a grappling hook at night during a storm, seeing only when lightning struck, to aproach a gaurd from behind and then shout that I'd like to join into his ear?
Logan Cook
SUPERIOR WORK ABOUT THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION COMING THROUGH
EVEN AS A BRITBONG I LOVE THIS
WHAT IS YOUR FAVOURITE SONG?
Gabriel Reyes
>defending lobsters >in 2016 all you had to do was let up create our own colonial monies you mercantilist cunts
Dylan Taylor
I know you would you fucking sperg.
James Lopez
>340 years later >still butt devastated
John Campbell
> 340 years
Did you throw your mathematics textbooks in the sea as well as all the tea you wasted?
Dominic Thomas
>1783 was 24 years ago
feels bad man
Dominic Howard
>tfw the colonials literally have no serious grievances in the slightest >tfw the colonials whine about "muh freedumbs" but worry about us abolishing slavery throughout the empire >tfw the colonials whine about "muh equality" but complain about French Canadians keeping their rights >tfw the colonials whine about "muh justiss" but complain about the indigenous nations getting to keep the Ohio valley >tfw the colonials think they beat the shit out of the redcoats when the French, Spaniards & Dutch hold down our forces whilst we fight two separate wars in India at the same time
Why so pathetic, colonials?
Isaac Brown
All you had to do is work hard instead of relying on black people to do your hard work for you for free.
Jeremiah Walker
Satisfied
Cooper Harris
Goddamn, is the American Revolution approached the same way in British schools as WWII is in Japanese schools?
Whatever helps you guys sleep at night. I hope it was worth colonizing a bunch of dogshit countries like India for losing the one country that really mattered.
Christopher Butler
the most humorous part is even after all the history of British hegemony, France is the country with the most oversea territory today
Aiden Harris
except the movie shows colonials getting btfo most of the time but ultimately winning because of circumstances.
Chase Hughes
Mostly it isn't discussed so much because it isn't that important by our standards. It's not the first time we lost a colony (we lost Calais in 1558 and Tangier in 1683).
How do you think the "revolution" should be taught in our schools? As a bunch of peaceful slave-owning white supremacists bravely fighting to throwing out their own people so they could exterminate the continent's indigenous people and steal even more of their land? What a heroic tale.
> I hope it was worth colonizing a bunch of dogshit countries like India for losing the one country that really mattered We still kept Canada, which today is generally considered to be a nicer place than the US.
Daniel James
>The Minutemen and guerrilla fighters didn't even contribute significantly to the battles Nigger have you even heard of the southern campaign?
Sebastian Parker
Holy shit they made something about this fucker and potential traitor? Better watch John Adams.
Xavier Brown
Why would they shot him in the foot?
Juan Sanchez
>We still kept Canada, which today is generally considered to be a nicer place than the US.
Canada Act of 1982
Gavin Richardson
>How do you think the "revolution" should be taught in our schools? As a bunch of peaceful slave-owning white supremacists bravely fighting to throwing out their own people so they could exterminate the continent's indigenous people and steal even more of their land? What a heroic tale.
Makes me wonder how the Second Anglo-Boer War would be taught today if the British had lost that as well.
In fact, I seem to recall the first Boer War ending in a suzerainty deal not dissimilar to the one offered to (and rejected by) the American colonists.
Jose Collins
Yeah. We gave them independence when they asked for it. Do you think if we had kept hold of the 13 colonies, we'd still have kept holding on to them today? Unlikely.
The Boers, much like your founding fathers, were slavers and supremacists who couldn't bear the idea of mixing with that continent's indigenous people, much like the British colonials who followed them after and oppressed the Afrikaaners in addition to everyone else.
The British government put them in concentration camps. When they got out of them and got into power they oppressed the native majority and other non-European foreign minorities.
I will say this for the Boers though. They were never hypocrites though: they never professed a belief in liberty or equality unlike your founding fathers.
Adam Morgan
Eloquent writing sir.
Luke Price
>Is English. >Lives in America. >Told that since I live in America I'm no longer English. >Write letter to my King telling him Parliament is acting like a bunch of fags. He rights back saying I should stop being traitor because I'm no longer English.
And that is how the Revolution started....
Ayden Reyes
>>Told that since I live in America I'm no longer English.
Do you magically become an Abenaki or a Cherokee if you live in America?
Carter Martin
Ask Parliament. They are the ones that decided that all rights as Englishmen ended after crossing an invisible line somewhere that stripped your of your Englishness. Unless you were appointed to office by them or in the Military.
Jeremiah Lee
>britbongs will never run with the buffalo absolute jealousy i'm sure
Dylan Ortiz
Didn't a 6 year old kill a redcoat in one scene? I like Mel but ya that movie was shite.
Benjamin Sanders
>(You)r founding fathers
okay then
Ayden Flores
Didn't seem to stop them from pressing our sailors into service when they were getting slapped around by France.
Wyatt Gray
They didn't deserve their rights as Englishmen because they never fought for them.
Whilst people in England were fighting and dying for their rights in the Civil War, the colonials and the Wampanoag were finger-popping eachother's arseholes over in Massachusetts.
>"britbongs will never run with the buffalo" >doesn't know the difference between eastern woodland natives and the natives of the plains
>Didn't seem to stop them from pressing our sailors into service when they were getting slapped around by France. You were complaining about that during the fucking 1740s too. Heaven forbid your people ever lift a finger for the mother country or do any work. What's the point? You can always whip a black guy into doing it for you for free.
Asher Sanders
You basically made military slaves of men that already had jobs and family, who you decided at a whim should fight for you without any choice of their own.
And you talk of slaves. Charlatan knave.
Ayden Gray
"To put a man to death for an offence that does not deserve death, is it not murder?" -BJF, Essays - pg. 235
Juan Rodriguez
>You basically made military slaves of men that already had jobs and family, who you decided at a whim should fight for you without any choice of their own. Yes, and we did it again during WW1 & 2 with national conscription otherwise we would have lost. What colonials call slavery, Englishmen call duty.
Brandon Johnson
The musical actually has a whole song of George III laughing at the idea of John Adams being president.
It also contains Hamilton giving the line "Sit down, John, you fat motherfucker"
Charles Scott
You mean the two world wars where we saved you, again.
Jaxon Taylor
> Americans think they did anything in WW1
Justin Brooks
You mean the first WW where you did nothing and the second WW where the Russians put in most of the effort.
Or do you mean the Seven Years War where if we hadn't intervened, you'd all be speaking French?
Brayden Fisher
Well I remember a couple of years where we basically doubled the combined forces of france and britain combined to keep you from getting over run by the krauts.
yeah I consider that something. We allowed our forces to fight in other army commands other than our own, supplied material for the entirety of the alliance.
Much in the same way Marshal Plan occured. Lend and lease.
Blake Bailey
>those damn yanks were evil Replacing revisionism with revisionism doesn't fix anything.
Kayden Lee
The same russians that were propped up by us. Yeah real heroes. We should probably appease you though right because buying time solves problems?
Austin White
Americans literally broke the stalemate. You fags were butt fucking eachother in the trenches until we brought new blood in and broke the stalemate. So fucking ungrateful it's ridiculous. Then we fucking saved you in WW2 while also singlehandedly defeating the yellow peril.
Jaxon Murphy
>be britbeta >suck shit at war all the real men went off to the colonies which is why they always got BTFO by their colonies and today the british are known as weak effeminate pasty faggots
Eli Myers
The entire issue was simply that the colonies had gotten so big that they didn't need Britain's protection and British foreign policy was doing more harm than good to the colonies. That was it. Britain was dragging it's colonies into distinctly European wars and was forbidding colonists from buying or taking land from natives further inland. America had no good reason to stay part of Britain aside from nostalgia.
Daniel Brooks
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Grayson Long
And forbidding the colonists from trading with other countries.
Tyler Wright
Literally sitting in summer school about world war 2. It took Hitler 70 days to conquer Western Europe and then start bombing the shit out of England. But please tell me more about how America somehow didn't save your pussy ass
Joshua Cooper
July 4th cannot come quick enough!
Henry Wright
Yeah, that too.
Landon Fisher
Is that why the empire got much smaller after you guys left? Is that why we didn't burn down the White House? Is that why your soldiers weren't struggling to beat the natives throughout the 17th to 19th centuries? Is that why you won a resounding victory in Vietnam whilst we lost so badly in Malaysia?
Tyler Taylor
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Ian James
You mean the war where you hundled under a fucking rock while the germans buttfucked your entire southern region with missles? Yeah real brave hiding while europe gets steam rolled and then talk shit to us you ungrateful pale nigger.
Jaxson Parker
>This movie -- like the actual "War of Independence" -- is based almost entirely on fuck and lies. we still won, right? If the English weren't idiots they would have up and moved the fucking king to America if it meant maintaining control. More valuable than they ever could have imagined.
Tyler Richardson
> American school system propaganda THIS strong
Bet you guys still think you won Vietnam and the War of 1812?
Ryan Perez
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Oliver Evans
Not getting the spirit of 1676
Joseph Butler
Actually, the French won. The colonists lost every major battle they fought, including the largest battles of the war. Mostly because Washington was a shit tier general, who was only really good at retreating.
Brandon Jenkins
>second WW where the Russians put in most of the effort.
The same second WW where if the US had left you tea sipping pansy ass fucks to your own devices, the Russians wouldn't have stopped in East Germany and continued steam rolling across Europe all the way up the King's ass.
Owen Stewart
Russia couldn't have won against Germany without US support and virtually the entire Pacific war was won by America.
Ryan Roberts
Majority of vietnam we couldn't go into cambodia to take the fight where they were hiding and they didn't listen to Eisenhower when he told them they needed a major invasion to finish it quickly.
School with any system is only as strong as what you put into it, which is why we have some of the strongest schools in terms of being graded for whatever categories education is qualified by and we can still at same time have extremely dumb citizens.
Making blanket statements isn't going to change anything and treaty of ghent/War of 1812 was a stalemate. We still won last battles of that war, you remember New Orleans right?
Or when USS constitution went 3 on 1 against brits and beat the shit out of you? Or when we fucked you all up and down great lakes.
Jayden Edwards
So your country wasn't being reduced to rubble by German aircraft? How exactly does your school system describe this series of factual events?
William Garcia
Washington was also good at getting and using intel.
Austin Morgan
> War of 1812 was a stalemate. We just tried to invade Canada, and got repelled, and got the White House burned down. BUT IT WAS A STALEMATE
It described it as an incredible victory against insane odds that saved the world. Which, you know, it was.
Maybe if the colonials had done more to assimilate into native cultures (as some of the French colonials had done), the Cherokee wouldn't have felt the need to go to London and beg the king not to let the colonials steal any more of their land.
>Britain was dragging it's colonies into distinctly European wars The colonials complaining about this immediately after dragging Britain into a fucking war with France in 1754.
That's just about the closest thing the colonists had to an actual fucking grievance.
Most of the rest was just whinging about the Quebecois, black people & red people having too many rights.
Jacob James
You're 30 years off, we didn't invade canada until later.
Jackson Gutierrez
>resorts to pillaging and violent intimidation to garner supplies from the local populace >commits war crimes against former adversaries who have peacefully surrendered >routinely rapes women when in a position of authority over them
never really understood why Mel Gibson wanted to portray someone like Marion
Blake Ortiz
The war of 1812 was an attempted annexation of Canada. Please learn the history of your own 'country'.
Nicholas Smith
I really like that when the british hire black soldiers, it's portrayed as something despicable and low but when the americans do it, it's because of "muh freedom" and equality.
Bentley Nelson
If Germany wasn't also ass blasting Russia at the same time Hitler would have turned your country into Atlantis 2.0.
Owen Foster
>What General Weygand has called The Battle of France is over. The battle of Britain is about to begin. Upon this battle depends the survival of Christian civilisation. Upon it depends our own British life and the long continuity of our institutions and our Empire. The whole fury and might of the enemy must very soon be turned on us. Hitler knows that he will have to break us in this island or lose the war. If we can stand up to him, all Europe may be free and the life of the world may move forward into broad, sunlit uplands. But if we fail, then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of a perverted science. Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that, if the British Empire and its Commonwealth last for a thousand years, men will still say, "This was their finest hour"
I wonder how Churchill would feel seeing the UK today
Ethan Flores
Something that the USA likes to forget is that a major recruitment cause for the rebels was the British promise to free any slaves that fought for the King.
This was a promise that the British kept, despite losing the war.
Kevin Gomez
>these hypotheticals >trying to paint history as good vs bad The fuck reason would I care about that? You are obviously just a butthurt britbong who cares more about national image then the truth. Take it to Sup Forums or Sup Forums.
Blake James
Why are you so angry, is it because of islam?
Zachary Phillips
Fuck the founding fathers, everyone worships them so much that we will never switch over to a parliamentary system and unfuck this government.
Noah Perez
The deification of the founding fathers is pretty fucking sickening. Nobody likes to mention that Washington owned like, 300 slaves and effectively started the French and Indian war with his own incompetence.
Blake Ortiz
Why do british always act like innocents when European powers are reason the atlantic slave circuit only existed because of you.
Luis Richardson
List the pros and cons.
Charles Rivera
What are you talking about, every book in last 20 years that has come out about Washington mentions his slaves.
No, socialist, fuck you.
John Hernandez
>b-but Africans had slaves already, so it was alright
Joseph Adams
Maybe because we ended slavery without fighting a self-destructive war over it that STILL causes butthurt over half the nation because they can't fly the flag of the slavers?
Hudson Green
Their local civilization was already built up on the backs of space labor. It was obviously time to start policing people in the literal wilderness half a world away for attempting to do the same shit.
Leo Martinez
Wat? Are you seriously ignoring the economic motivations of slavery?
